IRC log of diws on 2004-10-13
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- 08:18:15 [RRSAgent]
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- 08:20:04 [shadi]
- [Presentation by Oskari Koskimies, Nokia]
- 08:46:53 [shadi]
- Bert: are there existing implementations?
- 08:47:10 [shadi]
- Oskari: will look into this
- 08:47:53 [shadi]
- (discussion about client side vs server side adaptation)
- 08:49:48 [shadi]
- Lisa: would categories of metadata help query the client
capabilities?
- 08:50:32 [shadi]
- Oskari: mobile devices will always be less capable than desktop PCs
both in capability and bandwidth. need to adapt to this.
- 08:51:40 [shadi]
- Lisa: dependency between author implementation and feature support.
how to make standards used?
- 08:53:18 [shadi]
- Oskari: good point. when authors employ less server side adaptation,
clients need to do more.
- 08:54:39 [shadi]
- [Presentation Fabio Paterno, CNR]
- 09:19:46 [shadi]
- Lisa: in your presentation you were presuming user scenarios but you
don't always know it
- 09:20:54 [shadi]
- Fabio: to some extend i believe you can exclude certain cases
- 09:21:35 [shadi]
- Oskari: the football match may be a bad example, but there are
scenarios where it may relevant
- 09:23:26 [shadi]
- [Presentation by Joost Geurts, CWI]
- 09:43:51 [shadi]
- Bert: how did the name come about?
- 09:44:23 [shadi]
- Joost: we were hosted by the museum and history in our department to
use names of architects
- 09:44:28 [shadi]
- [Debate]
- 09:46:11 [shadi]
- Rolland: users might want to receive information in a viable format.
for example audio stream for a small screen or someone who is
blind.
- 09:47:49 [shadi]
- Lisa: agree, but important to note that detailing the reason (ie the
user is blind) may be a danger hazard
- 09:49:28 [shadi]
- Lisa: want to underline that the users need to make a choice of what
they want, not a predecision by the provider
- 09:51:29 [shadi]
- Tod: agree, also on a desktop the preferences may be diverse
according to the user
- 09:53:23 [shadi]
- Daniel: how a service is expressed is an impression of the company
branding
- 09:56:31 [shadi]
- Fabio: need to balance complexity and uptake of the service. working
with and involvement end-users is necessary, but need to know the
uptake.
- 09:58:00 [shadi]
- Rotan: environment is also a factor, maybe a device should deny
delicate operations (eg bank transaction) in an insecure
environment.
- 09:58:20 [shadi]
- Stephane: can we differentiate between preferences and
constraints?
- 09:58:45 [shadi]
- Fabio: under certain constraints i have different preferences.
- 10:00:15 [shadi]
- Tod: what is the preference of the content authors?
- 10:02:28 [shadi]
- Stephane: we are assuming a flat authoring and consumption model, but
maybe we need to consider content negotiation.
- 10:02:53 [shadi]
- [End of Session]
- 10:03:01 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make logs team
- 10:03:07 [shadi]
- rrsagent, bye
- 10:03:07 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items