IRC log of wai-wcag on 2004-07-29

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19:55:07 [RRSAgent]
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19:55:16 [rscano_ppc]
ppc = pocket pc :-)
19:55:26 [Yvette_Hoitink]
Ciao Roberto_ppc :-)
19:55:50 [sh1mmer]
Ciao Robertos
19:55:51 [rscano_ppc]
ciao dutch woman :-)
19:55:54 [rellero]
:-)
19:55:58 [sh1mmer]
Hello Yvette
19:55:59 [sh1mmer]
:)
19:56:01 [Yvette_Hoitink]
:-)
19:56:11 [sh1mmer]
Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
19:56:11 [Zakim]
ok, sh1mmer; I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
19:56:25 [Yvette_Hoitink]
4 minutes? My clock is off then
19:56:28 [rscano_ppc]
sorry for only irc
19:56:28 [rscano_ppc]
no phone here
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19:56:45 [MichaelC]
Hi all.
19:56:51 [Yvette_Hoitink]
Hi John
19:57:01 [rscano_ppc]
hi michsel
19:57:06 [rscano_ppc]
hi john
19:57:34 [Zakim]
WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has now started
19:57:41 [Zakim]
+John_Slatin
19:57:54 [bcaldwell]
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19:58:20 [jslatin]
hi everyone! i'm on the call too, first one there...
19:58:34 [Zakim]
+??P1
19:58:54 [Zakim]
+ChrisR|Yvette_Hoitink
19:59:16 [Yvette_Hoitink]
zakim, ChrisR|Yvette_Hoitink
19:59:16 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'ChrisR|Yvette_Hoitink', Yvette_Hoitink
19:59:30 [Zakim]
+??P3
19:59:37 [Yvette_Hoitink]
zakim, I am Yvette_Hoitink
19:59:37 [Zakim]
sorry, Yvette_Hoitink, I do not see a party named 'Yvette_Hoitink'
19:59:41 [bengt]
azakim, ??P3 is Bengt_Farre
19:59:49 [Yvette_Hoitink]
zakim, mute me
19:59:49 [Zakim]
sorry, Yvette_Hoitink, I do not see a party named 'Yvette_Hoitink'
19:59:58 [bengt]
zakim, ??P3 is Bengt_Farre
19:59:58 [Zakim]
+Bengt_Farre; got it
20:00:04 [Zakim]
+??P4
20:00:14 [sh1mmer]
Zakim, ChrisR is Yvette
20:00:14 [bengt]
zakim, I am Bengt_Farre
20:00:14 [Zakim]
+Yvette; got it
20:00:15 [Zakim]
ok, bengt, I now associate you with Bengt_Farre
20:00:20 [Yvette_Hoitink]
zakim, I am Yvette_Hoitink
20:00:20 [Zakim]
sorry, Yvette_Hoitink, I do not see a party named 'Yvette_Hoitink'
20:00:25 [nabe]
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20:00:25 [Yvette_Hoitink]
zakim, I am Yvette
20:00:25 [Zakim]
ok, Yvette_Hoitink, I now associate you with Yvette
20:00:26 [sh1mmer]
Zakim, mute Yvette
20:00:26 [Zakim]
Yvette should now be muted
20:00:37 [Yvette_Hoitink]
brilliant :-)
20:00:42 [Yvette_Hoitink]
zakim, unmute me
20:00:42 [Zakim]
Yvette should no longer be muted
20:00:54 [Zakim]
+Michael_Cooper
20:01:19 [Zakim]
+??P7
20:01:32 [Zakim]
+[IBM]
20:01:42 [nabe]
zakim, ??P7 is Takayuki_Watanabe
20:01:42 [Zakim]
+Takayuki_Watanabe; got it
20:01:50 [Zakim]
+Wendy
20:01:58 [Zakim]
+ +1.202.492.aaaa
20:02:04 [Zakim]
+ +1.608.263.aabb
20:02:21 [wendy]
zakim, +1.608.263.aabb is Ben_and_Gregg
20:02:21 [Zakim]
+Ben_and_Gregg; got it
20:02:25 [Andi]
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20:02:27 [sh1mmer]
Zakim, ??P1 is Tom
20:02:27 [Zakim]
+Tom; got it
20:02:32 [sh1mmer]
Zakim, I am Tom
20:02:32 [Zakim]
ok, sh1mmer, I now associate you with Tom
20:02:51 [wendy]
zakim, +1.202.492.aaaa is Alex_Li
20:02:51 [Zakim]
+Alex_Li; got it
20:03:05 [wendy]
zakim, who's on the phone?
20:03:05 [Zakim]
On the phone I see John_Slatin, Tom, Yvette, Bengt_Farre, ??P4, Michael_Cooper, Takayuki_Watanabe, [IBM], Wendy, Alex_Li, Ben_and_Gregg
20:03:13 [Zakim]
+Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:03:15 [Yvette_Hoitink]
zakim, Yvette is Yvette_Hoitink
20:03:15 [Zakim]
+Yvette_Hoitink; got it
20:03:27 [nabe]
zakim, I am Takayuki_Watanabe
20:03:27 [Zakim]
ok, nabe, I now associate you with Takayuki_Watanabe
20:03:45 [Zakim]
+??P11
20:03:57 [wendy]
zakim, ??P11 Doyle_Burnett
20:03:57 [Zakim]
I don't understand '??P11 Doyle_Burnett', wendy
20:04:02 [wendy]
zakim, ??P11 is Doyle_Burnett
20:04:02 [Zakim]
+Doyle_Burnett; got it
20:04:03 [Zakim]
+Sailesh_Panchang
20:04:04 [rellero]
I do not have credit in dialpad today, I agree with the publication of the
20:04:05 [rellero]
documents to TR
20:04:15 [Zakim]
+Becky_Gibson
20:04:23 [Yvette_Hoitink]
rellero: I will make sure to say that on the phone too
20:04:27 [wendy]
zakim, [IBM] is Andi
20:04:27 [Zakim]
+Andi; got it
20:04:30 [wendy]
zakim, who's on the phone?
20:04:30 [Zakim]
On the phone I see John_Slatin, Tom, Yvette_Hoitink, Bengt_Farre, ??P4, Michael_Cooper, Takayuki_Watanabe, Andi, Wendy, Alex_Li, Ben_and_Gregg, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Doyle_Burnett,
20:04:33 [Zakim]
... Sailesh_Panchang, Becky_Gibson
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20:04:41 [rellero]
thanks Yvette
20:04:53 [wendy]
zakim, ??P4 is David_MacDonald
20:04:53 [Zakim]
+David_MacDonald; got it
20:05:03 [Zakim]
+[Microsoft]
20:05:15 [wendy]
zakim, [Microsoft] is Mike_Barta
20:05:16 [Zakim]
+Mike_Barta; got it
20:05:17 [Yvette_Hoitink]
zakim, who's making noise?
20:05:20 [sh1mmer]
i just muted
20:05:23 [wendy]
zakim, who's on the phone?
20:05:24 [Zakim]
On the phone I see John_Slatin, Tom (muted), Yvette_Hoitink, Bengt_Farre, David_MacDonald, Michael_Cooper, Takayuki_Watanabe, Andi, Wendy, Alex_Li, Ben_and_Gregg,
20:05:26 [Zakim]
... Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Doyle_Burnett, Sailesh_Panchang, Becky_Gibson, Mike_Barta
20:05:28 [Zakim]
Yvette_Hoitink, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
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20:05:33 [wendy]
zakim, mute Loretta
20:05:33 [Zakim]
Loretta_Guarino_Reid should now be muted
20:06:03 [MichaelC]
brb
20:06:10 [scano_ppc]
(cat jumped on pocketpc :-) )
20:07:08 [DoyleB]
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20:07:48 [wendy]
Meeting: WCAG WG
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20:08:17 [wendy]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JulSep/0249.html
20:08:22 [wendy]
Chair: Gregg Vanderheiden
20:08:50 [wendy]
Scribe: Wendy Chisholm
20:09:25 [wendy]
Topic: publication date
20:09:54 [wendy]
gv we have 4 documents to go through
20:10:55 [wendy]
order for discussion: html, css, wcag 2.0, gateway
20:11:21 [wendy]
aiming for tomorrow
20:11:39 [wendy]
if not, wac has secured webmaster resources for next wednesday
20:11:46 [wendy]
Topic: wcag 2.0
20:12:50 [wendy]
wac: defn authored unit, 4.1, 4.2
20:13:32 [wendy]
bc currently have the diwg defn. in the document
20:14:03 [wendy]
gv defn in our doc should be from diwg. if we think need to new term should work with diwg.
20:15:11 [wendy]
action: gv and bc write ednote for defn of 'autored unit'
20:15:16 [David_MacDonald]
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20:15:55 [wendy]
4.1 and 4.2 - not a showstopper. wasn't intedned to change the draft.
20:16:12 [wendy]
asw no problem publishing the draft. however, need to wrestle 4.1 and 4.2 asap
20:16:22 [wendy]
gv don't think there was resolution on the discussion.
20:16:46 [wendy]
need to do anything to 4.1 or 4.2 for this draft?
20:17:03 [wendy]
nope
20:17:08 [wendy]
anything else for wcag 2.0?
20:17:43 [wendy]
resolution: group agrees to publish wcag 2.0 as is
20:17:47 [wendy]
Topic: HTML Techniques
20:18:17 [wendy]
summary of issues: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JulSep/0256.html
20:18:38 [wendy]
response to john: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JulSep/0268.html
20:19:15 [wendy]
I - Example for doctype includes meta refresh
20:19:43 [wendy]
no objection to update example
20:19:48 [wendy]
II - Graphics used as form labels
20:20:10 [wendy]
log in bugzila, deal with after publication
20:20:51 [wendy]
there was no specific technique, based on lack of
20:21:14 [wendy]
use strategy used in css where create placeholder and link to bugzilla?
20:21:15 [wendy]
perhaps
20:21:24 [wendy]
yh think tech ok, just need another example
20:22:07 [wendy]
js is it a tech we want to recommend?
20:23:06 [wendy]
action: michael add bugzilla issue for Graphics used as form labels
20:23:16 [wendy]
resolution: no change to draft, michael create bugzilla issue
20:23:24 [wendy]
III - Grouping radio buttons and checkboxes
20:23:42 [wendy]
mc. an oversight. did not intend to exclude. have placeholder text. need to expand later.
20:24:01 [wendy]
resolution: placeholder, expand on later.
20:24:13 [wendy]
action: john slatin write technique for Grouping radio buttons and checkboxes
20:24:20 [wendy]
IV - User agent support for optgroup
20:24:26 [wendy]
proposal: ednote
20:24:34 [wendy]
future: when have UA support info, address then
20:25:34 [wendy]
gv good to put a note. more comments on the list, people appear to be converging.
20:26:07 [wendy]
mc current wording: (reads)
20:26:11 [wendy]
gv is it known to create problems?
20:26:14 [wendy]
bc yes. tested it yesterday.
20:26:28 [wendy]
yh sure?
20:26:34 [wendy]
bc yes. tested it. even w/alt
20:26:40 [wendy]
down arrorw
20:26:59 [wendy]
gv if there is still debate, use "may cause problems"
20:27:17 [wendy]
V - Tab order
20:27:46 [wendy]
add editorial note and bugzilla issue
20:28:00 [wendy]
accepted
20:28:10 [wendy]
VI - Correction and proposed text for auto-submit combo boxes
20:29:10 [wendy]
VII - Information about user agents
20:29:13 [wendy]
ednote in intro
20:29:21 [wendy]
(VI - use michael's proposal)
20:29:28 [wendy]
yes - add ben's content to ednote
20:30:33 [wendy]
responses to john's email:
20:30:40 [Yvette_Hoitink]
q+ to say "HTML techniques doc isn't valid HTML"
20:30:48 [wendy]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JulSep/0268.html
20:31:05 [wendy]
accept, "Short text alternatives for object element"
20:31:27 [wendy]
js general comment that change "text equivalent" to "text alternative" throughout the doucment.
20:31:55 [wendy]
js plus specific comment about "alt" on object element
20:34:02 [Zakim]
+Kerstin_Goldsmith
20:34:29 [Zakim]
+Paul_Bohman
20:34:51 [wendy]
action: mc replace "text equivalent" with "text alternative"
20:36:07 [Zakim]
-Kerstin_Goldsmith
20:37:15 [Zakim]
+Kerstin_Goldsmith
20:39:05 [sh1mmer]
zakim, unmute me
20:39:05 [Zakim]
Tom should no longer be muted
20:39:37 [wendy]
action: mc add ref to 1.1 from image-text-links technique
20:39:59 [sh1mmer]
zakim, mute me
20:39:59 [Zakim]
Tom should now be muted
20:40:07 [wendy]
explicit form labels
20:40:50 [wendy]
js 2 proposals: 1. delete that link. move to 1.3.
20:41:05 [wendy]
js 2. add a link about associating text alternatives w/input elements of type=image
20:41:42 [sh1mmer]
zakim, unmute me
20:41:42 [Zakim]
Tom should no longer be muted
20:42:21 [wendy]
mc agree with first
20:42:32 [wendy]
mc second - if don't provide alt. also a label issue.
20:43:33 [wendy]
action: wac delete link to "explicit form labels" from 1st gateway technique
20:43:46 [wendy]
provide alt for area
20:44:24 [Zakim]
-Kerstin_Goldsmith
20:46:40 [nabe]
q+ to say "example alt-text in HTML techs 10.1 and 10.5 is appropriate?; alt='MyCompany' should be 'company logo'?'"
20:46:48 [Zakim]
+Kerstin_Goldsmith
20:47:01 [wendy]
ack yvette
20:47:01 [Zakim]
Yvette_Hoitink, you wanted to say "HTML techniques doc isn't valid HTML"
20:47:54 [wendy]
ack takayuki
20:47:54 [Zakim]
Takayuki_Watanabe, you wanted to say "example alt-text in HTML techs 10.1 and 10.5 is appropriate?; alt='MyCompany' should be 'company logo'?'"
20:49:01 [wendy]
proposal: combine "use client side image map" and "provide alt for area" into one technique named via john's proposal, "Provide text alternatives for selectable areas of client-side image maps")
20:49:11 [wendy]
action: mc change alt='MyCompany'
20:49:21 [wendy]
action: mc combine "use client side image map" and "provide alt for area" into one technique named via john's proposal, "Provide text alternatives for selectable areas of client-side image maps")
20:49:33 [wendy]
action: wac adjust link to html techs based on combination of client-side image map techniques
20:49:50 [wendy]
7. "deprecated" techniques - why include if deprecated?
20:50:15 [wendy]
js propose delete link from gateway, not delete the technique
20:51:06 [wendy]
action: wac delete link to deprecated techniques
20:51:35 [wendy]
bc propose ednote about types of techniques (optional, deprecated) etc
20:52:06 [wendy]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JulSep/0266.html
20:53:14 [wendy]
adopt ben's proposal
20:53:39 [DoyleB]
I am going to have to sign off is five minutes.
20:54:34 [wendy]
action: wac, mc add ednote to intros of gateway, css, html about types of techniques per bc's proposal
20:56:39 [Zakim]
-Doyle_Burnett
20:57:37 [wendy]
ack david
20:59:21 [MichaelC]
action: MC remove diff markup from xml
20:59:39 [Zakim]
-Kerstin_Goldsmith
20:59:47 [Zakim]
+Kerstin_Goldsmith
21:00:29 [wendy]
gv editorial: ascii art - think it should say "star" instead of "start"
21:01:17 [Yvette_Hoitink]
q+
21:01:25 [wendy]
Topic: CSS Techs
21:01:40 [wendy]
wac only comments were from ben
21:02:00 [wendy]
yh viewing bug in IE
21:03:13 [wendy]
wac have handled ben's comments. other issues were proposals related to other documents. action items and resolutiosn already complete.
21:03:20 [wendy]
dm will send issues to the list
21:03:23 [wendy]
ack yvette
21:03:34 [wendy]
resolved: publish css
21:05:00 [wendy]
resolved: publish html as amended
21:05:01 [wendy]
Topic: Gateway
21:06:01 [nabe]
q+ say "Japanese IE does not display CSS tech doc. I don't know why but omitting the comment element in the 2nd line may solve the problem."
21:06:09 [Yvette_Hoitink]
scribe: Yvette
21:06:20 [wendy]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JulSep/0239.html
21:06:28 [Yvette_Hoitink]
First issue: different views
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Tried different things
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Techniques call: preference for third view
21:07:12 [Yvette_Hoitink]
Wendy: like to propose to go with that
21:07:18 [nabe]
q+ to say "Japanese IE does not display CSS tech doc. I don't know why but omitting the comment element in the 2nd line may solve the problem."
21:07:19 [Yvette_Hoitink]
reactions?
21:07:58 [Yvette_Hoitink]
bc would like to create PDF or postscript version
21:08:13 [Yvette_Hoitink]
in meantime create alternate similar to option 1 in addition
21:08:54 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc breaking up in chuncks gives people idea of where we're heading
21:09:05 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc people still confused by the numbering, different issue
21:09:27 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc anyone object to moving forward to break up in sections? ok
21:10:59 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc to give people better idea, we will include placeholders
21:11:22 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc just so you can see how it looks, no actual content for the moment, just ednotes
21:12:08 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc there will be seperate html files for each of those chapters but will not contain anything but heading and placeholder
21:12:22 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc anyone object?
21:12:29 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc noone objects, will move forward with that
21:12:44 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc question about testability in gateway
21:13:03 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc thinks we should mention that testability could be an issue
21:13:29 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc I will finish linking to HTML techniques.
21:14:00 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc After today's discussion, I worry that mapping may be subject to debate
21:14:23 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc will go through with this with John and if we have any questions will go to the list. otherwise we will include them
21:14:53 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc propose: John and Wendy walk through all the links and look for discrepancies or strange things.
21:15:02 [Yvette_Hoitink]
ack taka
21:15:02 [Zakim]
Takayuki_Watanabe, you wanted to say "Japanese IE does not display CSS tech doc. I don't know why but omitting the comment element in the 2nd line may solve the problem."
21:15:02 [wendy]
ack takayuki
21:15:35 [Yvette_Hoitink]
tw: CSS document doesn't display in Japanese version of IE
21:15:42 [wendy]
ack David
21:15:47 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc: is in all versions, ben will handle that
21:16:02 [Yvette_Hoitink]
dmd just posted an end-to-end review
21:16:41 [Yvette_Hoitink]
dmd the suggestions are problems like mapping
21:17:31 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc seems david is looking at different doc, we've only included 1.1
21:17:54 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc we just did the links for 1.1 so people can see how it looks and make it easier to get reviews
21:18:13 [Yvette_Hoitink]
js we did a lot of brainstorming in california and decided to just go with 1.1 first
21:18:56 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc back to current proposal: anyone expect problems with links from gateway to HTML?
21:19:12 [Zakim]
-Kerstin_Goldsmith
21:19:25 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc many links, some even repetetive. Redundancy is fine, for example to links about alt for images
21:19:39 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc but concerned about issues js raised with confusing links
21:19:53 [Yvette_Hoitink]
js will try to get something to wendy first thing tomorrow
21:20:20 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc worried that I'm thinking about publishing something that other people haven't even seen yet
21:20:28 [Zakim]
+Kerstin_Goldsmith
21:20:50 [Yvette_Hoitink]
tc problem seems to be with link text
21:22:09 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc main purpose of publishing the 4 drafts together so people can see how they link to each other and that there are more pieces than just WCAG and HTML
21:22:18 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc send signal that we have been working on that
21:23:11 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc it's about getting feedback: what do people find confusing?
21:23:40 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc you haven't seen the links, should that delay the publishing?
21:23:55 [Yvette_Hoitink]
gv what is your concern?
21:24:35 [Yvette_Hoitink]
gv people can look at it after the call
21:24:58 [Yvette_Hoitink]
gv people can raise objections, doesn't have to wait a week
21:25:42 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc want to follow process
21:25:55 [Yvette_Hoitink]
gv objections to go ahead? no
21:26:15 [Yvette_Hoitink]
gv how much work yet?
21:26:16 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wc Michael and wc still have some edits to do
21:26:47 [Yvette_Hoitink]
gv suggestion: we approve the three we already discussed (WCAG, CSS, HTML)
21:27:04 [Yvette_Hoitink]
and tentative approval for the gateway unless someone comes up with serious concern
21:27:52 [Yvette_Hoitink]
gv consensus to approve gateway doc unless issue arises that wendy isn't able to address? yes
21:28:01 [Yvette_Hoitink]
gv we did it!
21:28:08 [ben]
fixed IE bug - http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-CSS-TECHS-20040726.html
21:28:23 [Yvette_Hoitink]
gv will not be here next week, travelling
21:29:15 [Zakim]
-Bengt_Farre
21:29:19 [Zakim]
-Sailesh_Panchang
21:30:04 [Yvette_Hoitink]
entire group sings 'happy birthday' to Andi
21:30:13 [Yvette_Hoitink]
meeting adjourned on time :-)
21:30:13 [Zakim]
-Mike_Barta
21:30:16 [Zakim]
-Kerstin_Goldsmith
21:30:17 [Zakim]
-Becky_Gibson
21:30:17 [Zakim]
-Andi
21:30:18 [Zakim]
-Wendy
21:30:19 [Zakim]
-Loretta_Guarino_Reid
21:30:19 [Zakim]
-Michael_Cooper
21:30:20 [Zakim]
-David_MacDonald
21:30:21 [Zakim]
-Ben_and_Gregg
21:30:22 [wendy]
yvette - thanks for taking notes!
21:30:23 [Zakim]
-John_Slatin
21:30:25 [Zakim]
-Paul_Bohman
21:30:27 [Zakim]
-Tom
21:30:29 [Zakim]
-Alex_Li
21:30:31 [Zakim]
-Yvette_Hoitink
21:30:33 [Zakim]
-Takayuki_Watanabe
21:30:35 [Zakim]
WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
21:30:37 [Zakim]
Attendees were John_Slatin, ChrisR|Yvette_Hoitink, Bengt_Farre, Michael_Cooper, Takayuki_Watanabe, Wendy, Ben_and_Gregg, Tom, Alex_Li, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Yvette_Hoitink,
21:30:40 [Zakim]
... Doyle_Burnett, Sailesh_Panchang, Becky_Gibson, Andi, David_MacDonald, Mike_Barta, Kerstin_Goldsmith, Paul_Bohman
21:31:09 [wendy]
zakim, bye
21:31:09 [Zakim]
Zakim has left #wai-wcag
21:31:14 [wendy]
RRSAgent, make log world
21:31:20 [wendy]
RRSAgent, bye
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
I see 12 open action items:
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ACTION: gv and bc write ednote for defn of 'autored unit' [1]
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/07/29-wai-wcag-irc#T20-15-11
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: michael add bugzilla issue for Graphics used as form labels [2]
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/07/29-wai-wcag-irc#T20-23-06
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: john slatin write technique for Grouping radio buttons and checkboxes [3]
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/07/29-wai-wcag-irc#T20-24-13
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: mc replace "text equivalent" with "text alternative" [4]
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/07/29-wai-wcag-irc#T20-34-51
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: mc add ref to 1.1 from image-text-links technique [5]
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/07/29-wai-wcag-irc#T20-39-37
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: wac delete link to "explicit form labels" from 1st gateway technique [6]
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/07/29-wai-wcag-irc#T20-43-33
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: mc change alt='MyCompany' [7]
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/07/29-wai-wcag-irc#T20-49-11
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: mc combine "use client side image map" and "provide alt for area" into one technique named via john's proposal, "Provide text alternatives for selectable areas of client-side image maps") [8]
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/07/29-wai-wcag-irc#T20-49-21
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: wac adjust link to html techs based on combination of client-side image map techniques [9]
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/07/29-wai-wcag-irc#T20-49-33
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: wac delete link to deprecated techniques [10]
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/07/29-wai-wcag-irc#T20-51-06
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: wac, mc add ednote to intros of gateway, css, html about types of techniques per bc's proposal [11]
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/07/29-wai-wcag-irc#T20-54-34
21:31:20 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: MC remove diff markup from xml [12]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/07/29-wai-wcag-irc#T20-59-21
21:31:36 [Yvette_Hoitink]
wendy, i didn't log any action items during the last part