IRC log of wai-wcag on 2004-04-07
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- +??P40
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- +??P41
- 14:05:51 [sh1m]
- Zakim, who is on the phone?
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- +Wendy
- 14:05:54 [ben]
- zakim, ??P40 is Ben
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- On the phone I see Jim_Thatcher, [Microsoft], ??P20, Don_Evans, ??P22, ??P40, ??P41, Wendy (muted)
- 14:05:59 [Zakim]
- +Ben; got it
- 14:06:19 [wendy]
- zakim, unmute wendy
- 14:06:19 [Zakim]
- Wendy was not muted, wendy
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- Zakim, ??41 is Tom
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- sorry, sh1m, I do not recognize a party named '??41'
- 14:07:00 [sh1m]
- Zakim, ??P41 is Tom
- 14:07:00 [Zakim]
- +Tom; got it
- 14:07:04 [sh1m]
- Zakim, I am Tom
- 14:07:06 [Zakim]
- ok, sh1m, I now associate you with Tom
- 14:07:16 [wendy]
- zakim, who's on the phone?
- 14:07:18 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Jim_Thatcher, [Microsoft], ??P20, Don_Evans, ??P22, Ben, Tom, Wendy
- 14:07:29 [wendy]
- zakim, ??P20 may be Chris_Ridpath
- 14:07:29 [Zakim]
- +Chris_Ridpath?; got it
- 14:07:37 [wendy]
- zakim, ??P22 may be Dave_MacDonald
- 14:07:37 [Zakim]
- +Dave_MacDonald?; got it
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- +Michael_Cooper
- 14:08:13 [wendy]
- test matrix
- 14:08:50 [MichaelC]
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- 14:08:59 [wendy]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JanMar/att-0667/draft_test_matrix_v2.html
- 14:09:08 [MichaelC]
- zakim, who's on the phone?
- 14:09:08 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Jim_Thatcher, [Microsoft], Chris_Ridpath?, Don_Evans, Dave_MacDonald?, Ben, Tom (muted), Wendy, Michael_Cooper
- 14:09:47 [wendy]
- criteria for deciding p1, p2, or p3?
- 14:10:05 [wendy]
- percentage of use in the world?
- 14:12:37 [wendy]
- window-eyes not on the list
- 14:13:03 [wendy]
- home page reader should be browser
- 14:13:11 [wendy]
- (window-eyes is on the list, just far off to the right)
- 14:23:35 [wendy]
- action: michael send message to IG to ask about assistive technologies in other languages (info for test matrix)
- 14:30:20 [wendy]
- jenae is recording edits to make to the test matrix
- 14:37:44 [wendy]
- http://w3m.sourceforge.net/
- 14:46:04 [wendy]
- mac browsers: http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/reference/browser_chart/index_mac.html
- 14:49:47 [JimT]
- AT on Linux/UNIX http://www.tracecenter.org/linux/current.html
- 14:58:26 [Zakim]
- -Jim_Thatcher
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- 14:59:54 [Zakim]
- -Wendy
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- +Wendy
- 15:04:12 [ben]
- 1.4.1 and 2.2.2 - animated content - not clear which points belong in which section
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- looking for stratgies for splitting up the ideas or cross-referencing
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- -[Microsoft]
- 15:05:31 [ben]
- zakim, who's making noise?
- 15:05:42 [Zakim]
- ben, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Wendy (77%), Ben (9%), Tom (37%)
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- +[Microsoft]
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- zakim, [Microsoft] is Jenae
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- +Jenae; got it
- 15:09:08 [ben]
- 2.4.2 - use of metadata to describe collections - move to RDF techniques?
- 15:12:55 [wendy]
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- 1.4.1. and 2.2.2 - redundant?
- 15:13:11 [wendy]
- 2.4.2 - "document collections"
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- carried over from core?
- 15:13:13 [wendy]
- nothing in guideline 2.4 about document collections - providing metadata to navigate between pages. higher-level issue?
- 15:14:15 [wendy]
- ties back to level 2 #2 (for 2.4)
- 15:14:31 [wendy]
- yes - have something generic in gateway. could have techs in html and rdf (at min)
- 15:14:52 [wendy]
- 2.5.1 Error handling
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- also ref uaag
- 15:16:08 [wendy]
- user-centered design refs
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- annotated refs
- 15:17:09 [wendy]
- 2.1 and 2.2 - be better to break up into separate techniques (instead of a list). useful to have a guideline and underneath, a general intro before going into techniques?
- 15:19:29 [wendy]
- break up guidelines into tasks or success criteria?
- 15:20:11 [wendy]
- action: tom send list of issues and questions to list (about gateway techs) to get discussion of latest draft.
- 15:21:13 [wendy]
- discuss gateway techs next week
- 15:21:44 [wendy]
- action: wendy create "plan to publish gateway to TR" (aiming to publish end of april) - prioritize issues from tom, set milestones
- 15:21:48 [wendy]
- techs submission form
- 15:23:36 [wendy]
- public-wcag2-techs
- 15:27:40 [wendy]
- action: wac check with rigo re: ipr of tech submission form.
- 15:28:14 [ben]
- public archive - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wcag2-techs/
- 15:32:24 [wendy]
- action: chris will add techniques submissions to bugzilla
- 15:33:02 [wendy]
- action: ben and chris talk about adding bugs to bugzilla
- 15:36:08 [Zakim]
- -Michael_Cooper
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- -Tom
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- -Chris_Ridpath?
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- -Wendy
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- -Ben
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- -Jenae
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- -Don_Evans
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- -Dave_MacDonald?
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- WAI_WCAG(techniques)10:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were Jim_Thatcher, Don_Evans, Wendy, Ben, Tom, Chris_Ridpath?, Dave_MacDonald?, Michael_Cooper, Jenae
- 15:36:58 [wendy]
- RRSAgent, make log world-visible
- 15:37:03 [wendy]
- RRSAgent, bye
- 15:37:03 [RRSAgent]
- I see 6 open action items:
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- ACTION: michael send message to IG to ask about assistive technologies in other languages (info for test matrix) [1]
- 15:37:03 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/04/07-wai-wcag-irc#T14-23-35
- 15:37:03 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: tom send list of issues and questions to list (about gateway techs) to get discussion of latest draft. [2]
- 15:37:03 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/04/07-wai-wcag-irc#T15-20-11
- 15:37:03 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: wendy create "plan to publish gateway to TR" (aiming to publish end of april) - prioritize issues from tom, set milestones [3]
- 15:37:03 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/04/07-wai-wcag-irc#T15-21-44
- 15:37:03 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: wac check with rigo re: ipr of tech submission form. [4]
- 15:37:03 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/04/07-wai-wcag-irc#T15-27-40
- 15:37:03 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: chris will add techniques submissions to bugzilla [5]
- 15:37:03 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/04/07-wai-wcag-irc#T15-32-24
- 15:37:03 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: ben and chris talk about adding bugs to bugzilla [6]
- 15:37:03 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/04/07-wai-wcag-irc#T15-33-02