IRC log of wai-wcag on 2004-04-07

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14:05:37 [Zakim]

+??P40

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+??P41

14:05:51 [sh1m]

Zakim, who is on the phone?

14:05:53 [Zakim]

+Wendy

14:05:54 [ben]

zakim, ??P40 is Ben

14:05:57 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Jim_Thatcher, [Microsoft], ??P20, Don_Evans, ??P22, ??P40, ??P41, Wendy (muted)

14:05:59 [Zakim]

+Ben; got it

14:06:19 [wendy]

zakim, unmute wendy

14:06:19 [Zakim]

Wendy was not muted, wendy

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14:06:51 [sh1m]

Zakim, ??41 is Tom

14:06:51 [Zakim]

sorry, sh1m, I do not recognize a party named '??41'

14:07:00 [sh1m]

Zakim, ??P41 is Tom

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+Tom; got it

14:07:04 [sh1m]

Zakim, I am Tom

14:07:06 [Zakim]

ok, sh1m, I now associate you with Tom

14:07:16 [wendy]

zakim, who's on the phone?

14:07:18 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Jim_Thatcher, [Microsoft], ??P20, Don_Evans, ??P22, Ben, Tom, Wendy

14:07:29 [wendy]

zakim, ??P20 may be Chris_Ridpath

14:07:29 [Zakim]

+Chris_Ridpath?; got it

14:07:37 [wendy]

zakim, ??P22 may be Dave_MacDonald

14:07:37 [Zakim]

+Dave_MacDonald?; got it

14:07:40 [Zakim]

+Michael_Cooper

14:08:13 [wendy]

test matrix

14:08:50 [MichaelC]

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JanMar/att-0667/draft_test_matrix_v2.html

14:09:08 [MichaelC]

zakim, who's on the phone?

14:09:08 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Jim_Thatcher, [Microsoft], Chris_Ridpath?, Don_Evans, Dave_MacDonald?, Ben, Tom (muted), Wendy, Michael_Cooper

14:09:47 [wendy]

criteria for deciding p1, p2, or p3?

14:10:05 [wendy]

percentage of use in the world?

14:12:37 [wendy]

window-eyes not on the list

14:13:03 [wendy]

home page reader should be browser

14:13:11 [wendy]

(window-eyes is on the list, just far off to the right)

14:23:35 [wendy]

action: michael send message to IG to ask about assistive technologies in other languages (info for test matrix)

14:30:20 [wendy]

jenae is recording edits to make to the test matrix

14:37:44 [wendy]

http://w3m.sourceforge.net/

14:46:04 [wendy]

mac browsers: http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/reference/browser_chart/index_mac.html

14:49:47 [JimT]

AT on Linux/UNIX http://www.tracecenter.org/linux/current.html

14:58:26 [Zakim]

-Jim_Thatcher

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14:59:54 [Zakim]

-Wendy

15:01:09 [Zakim]

+Wendy

15:04:12 [ben]

1.4.1 and 2.2.2 - animated content - not clear which points belong in which section

15:05:02 [ben]

looking for stratgies for splitting up the ideas or cross-referencing

15:05:23 [Zakim]

-[Microsoft]

15:05:31 [ben]

zakim, who's making noise?

15:05:42 [Zakim]

ben, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Wendy (77%), Ben (9%), Tom (37%)

15:06:00 [Zakim]

+[Microsoft]

15:06:16 [ben]

zakim, [Microsoft] is Jenae

15:06:16 [Zakim]

+Jenae; got it

15:09:08 [ben]

2.4.2 - use of metadata to describe collections - move to RDF techniques?

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15:13:10 [wendy]

1.4.1. and 2.2.2 - redundant?

15:13:11 [wendy]

2.4.2 - "document collections"

15:13:11 [wendy]

carried over from core?

15:13:13 [wendy]

nothing in guideline 2.4 about document collections - providing metadata to navigate between pages. higher-level issue?

15:14:15 [wendy]

ties back to level 2 #2 (for 2.4)

15:14:31 [wendy]

yes - have something generic in gateway. could have techs in html and rdf (at min)

15:14:52 [wendy]

2.5.1 Error handling

15:15:21 [wendy]

also ref uaag

15:16:08 [wendy]

user-centered design refs

15:16:14 [wendy]

annotated refs

15:17:09 [wendy]

2.1 and 2.2 - be better to break up into separate techniques (instead of a list). useful to have a guideline and underneath, a general intro before going into techniques?

15:19:29 [wendy]

break up guidelines into tasks or success criteria?

15:20:11 [wendy]

action: tom send list of issues and questions to list (about gateway techs) to get discussion of latest draft.

15:21:13 [wendy]

discuss gateway techs next week

15:21:44 [wendy]

action: wendy create "plan to publish gateway to TR" (aiming to publish end of april) - prioritize issues from tom, set milestones

15:21:48 [wendy]

techs submission form

15:23:36 [wendy]

public-wcag2-techs

15:27:40 [wendy]

action: wac check with rigo re: ipr of tech submission form.

15:28:14 [ben]

public archive - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wcag2-techs/

15:32:24 [wendy]

action: chris will add techniques submissions to bugzilla

15:33:02 [wendy]

action: ben and chris talk about adding bugs to bugzilla

15:36:08 [Zakim]

-Michael_Cooper

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-Tom

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-Chris_Ridpath?

15:36:10 [Zakim]

-Wendy

15:36:11 [Zakim]

-Ben

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-Jenae

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-Don_Evans

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-Dave_MacDonald?

15:36:36 [Zakim]

WAI_WCAG(techniques)10:00AM has ended

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Attendees were Jim_Thatcher, Don_Evans, Wendy, Ben, Tom, Chris_Ridpath?, Dave_MacDonald?, Michael_Cooper, Jenae

15:36:58 [wendy]

RRSAgent, make log world-visible

15:37:03 [wendy]

RRSAgent, bye

15:37:03 [RRSAgent]

I see 6 open action items:

15:37:03 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: michael send message to IG to ask about assistive technologies in other languages (info for test matrix) [1]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/04/07-wai-wcag-irc#T14-23-35

15:37:03 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: tom send list of issues and questions to list (about gateway techs) to get discussion of latest draft. [2]

15:37:03 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/04/07-wai-wcag-irc#T15-20-11

15:37:03 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: wendy create "plan to publish gateway to TR" (aiming to publish end of april) - prioritize issues from tom, set milestones [3]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/04/07-wai-wcag-irc#T15-21-44

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ACTION: wac check with rigo re: ipr of tech submission form. [4]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/04/07-wai-wcag-irc#T15-27-40

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ACTION: chris will add techniques submissions to bugzilla [5]

15:37:03 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/04/07-wai-wcag-irc#T15-32-24

15:37:03 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: ben and chris talk about adding bugs to bugzilla [6]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/04/07-wai-wcag-irc#T15-33-02