IRC log of wai-wcag on 2003-10-30
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- +JasonWhite
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- +Dave_MacDonald
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- +[MIT342]
- 21:01:22 [rellero]
- I've problems with dialpad
- 21:02:00 [rscano]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 21:02:00 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Roberto_Scano, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Yvette_Hoitink, John_Slatin, JasonWhite, [MIT342], Dave_MacDonald
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- +??P14
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- +Wendy
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- +Avi_Arditti
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- +??P16
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- +??P15
- 21:03:44 [wendy]
- zakim, ??P16 is Bengt
- 21:03:44 [Zakim]
- +Bengt; got it
- 21:03:55 [wendy]
- zakim, mute Bengt
- 21:03:55 [Zakim]
- Bengt should now be muted
- 21:03:58 [rscano]
- zakim, who is here?
- 21:03:58 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Roberto_Scano, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Yvette_Hoitink, John_Slatin, JasonWhite, [MIT342], Dave_MacDonald, ??P14, Wendy, Avi_Arditti, Bengt (muted), ??P15
- 21:04:01 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see RRSAgent, Yvette, wendy, rellero, Zakim, bengt, rscano
- 21:04:04 [bcaldwell]
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- 21:04:20 [wendy]
- zakim, ??P15 may be Tom
- 21:04:20 [Zakim]
- +Tom?; got it
- 21:04:27 [sh1mmer]
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- 21:04:28 [bengt]
- 14?
- 21:04:33 [sh1mmer]
- hi :)
- 21:04:42 [wendy]
- zakim, who's on the phone?
- 21:04:42 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Roberto_Scano, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Yvette_Hoitink, John_Slatin, JasonWhite, [MIT342], Dave_MacDonald, ??P14, Wendy, Avi_Arditti, Bengt (muted), Tom?
- 21:04:44 [Yvette]
- zakim, mute me
- 21:04:45 [Zakim]
- Yvette_Hoitink should now be muted
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- 21:05:12 [wendy]
- zakim, ??P14 is Gregg-and-Ben
- 21:05:12 [Zakim]
- +Gregg-and-Ben; got it
- 21:05:17 [bengt]
- still echo ?
- 21:05:23 [bengt]
- yes
- 21:05:23 [Yvette]
- I am
- 21:05:39 [wendy]
- ack Gregg
- 21:05:42 [Yvette]
- now it's ok
- 21:06:07 [Yvette]
- I only hear echos when Wendy talks
- 21:06:11 [sh1mmer]
- Zakim, I am Tom
- 21:06:11 [Zakim]
- ok, sh1mmer, I now associate you with Tom?
- 21:06:24 [Zakim]
- +??P17
- 21:06:28 [sh1mmer]
- Zakim, Tom? is Tom
- 21:06:28 [Zakim]
- +Tom; got it
- 21:06:35 [wendy]
- zakim, ??P17 is Kerstin
- 21:06:35 [Zakim]
- +Kerstin; got it
- 21:07:24 [rscano]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-20031027.html
- 21:07:47 [Zakim]
- +[IBM]
- 21:07:48 [bengt]
- what is the mute code ?
- 21:07:55 [wendy]
- zakim, mute bengt
- 21:07:55 [Zakim]
- Bengt was already muted, wendy
- 21:08:02 [m3mSEA]
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- 21:08:09 [wendy]
- zakim, who's making noise?
- 21:08:17 [sh1mmer]
- Zakim, who's muted?
- 21:08:17 [Zakim]
- I see Yvette_Hoitink, Bengt, Tom muted
- 21:08:21 [Zakim]
- wendy, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: JasonWhite (35%)
- 21:08:26 [wendy]
- zakim, mute JasonWhite
- 21:08:26 [Zakim]
- JasonWhite should now be muted
- 21:08:41 [sh1mmer]
- zakim roberto_scano
- 21:08:42 [bengt]
- echo gone
- 21:08:54 [rscano]
- ?
- 21:09:06 [sh1mmer]
- rscano i was going to mute you :P
- 21:09:12 [rscano]
- :P
- 21:09:18 [Yvette]
- tsk tsk
- 21:09:26 [sh1mmer]
- the voip is usually the noisy lines
- 21:09:48 [wendy]
- or international lines.
- 21:11:12 [wendy]
- david's text: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2003OctDec/0162.html
- 21:11:19 [rcastaldo]
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- Hi everybody
- 21:11:44 [rscano]
- hi bob
- 21:11:56 [Zakim]
- +??P20
- 21:12:27 [rscano]
- zakim, ??P20 is Roberto_Castaldo
- 21:12:27 [Zakim]
- +Roberto_Castaldo; got it
- 21:12:31 [Yvette]
- Hi Roberto
- 21:12:39 [rscano]
- hi :P
- 21:12:46 [rcastaldo]
- Hi Yvette
- 21:12:58 [wendy]
- "how to read doc" then "there are 3 levels" some people might read that as "this doc as both tech-specific and other text."
- 21:13:00 [Zakim]
- -Roberto_Castaldo
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- 21:13:31 [wendy]
- we used to talk about "3 layers" of documents and now have 3 levels of success criteria.
- 21:13:33 [Zakim]
- +??P20
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- -??P20
- 21:14:13 [Zakim]
- +??P20
- 21:14:30 [Zakim]
- -??P20
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- +??P21
- 21:14:36 [Zakim]
- -??P21
- 21:14:46 [wendy]
- roberto castaldo having trouble joining?
- 21:14:46 [sh1mmer]
- q+
- 21:14:56 [rellero]
- I too
- 21:15:00 [rcastaldo]
- Yes
- 21:15:08 [rcastaldo]
- I'll try again
- 21:15:25 [rellero]
- The telephone call is closed soon
- 21:15:27 [Zakim]
- +??P20
- 21:15:40 [wendy]
- ack kerstin
- 21:15:44 [Zakim]
- -??P20
- 21:15:56 [wendy]
- where are we in the schedule?
- 21:16:27 [rcastaldo]
- It falled again
- 21:16:31 [wendy]
- wcag 2.0 will not become a w3c recommendation in 2003.
- 21:17:01 [wendy]
- we're no longer expanding or exploring, we are trying to smooth the rought edges.
- 21:17:08 [rellero]
- Impossible to phone, as soon as I hear the sound of tc the telephone call is closed, sorry
- 21:17:26 [rcastaldo]
- It's exactly the same for me
- 21:18:35 [Zakim]
- +??P20
- 21:18:52 [Zakim]
- -??P20
- 21:19:53 [Zakim]
- +Katie_Haritos-Shea
- 21:19:59 [sh1mmer]
- q-
- 21:20:35 [Zakim]
- +Michael_Cooper
- 21:21:58 [sh1mmer]
- ack Tom
- 21:22:58 [wendy]
- working backwards: address PR comments (4 weeks min) + PR review 4 weeks + CR minimum of 0 weeks (if document imp experience before enter) + address last call comments (4 weeks min) + last call review 3 weeks minimum + address WD comments (4 weeks min) + WD before last call (4-6 weeks) this is rough and incomplete
- 21:22:59 [wendy]
- http://www.w3.org/2003/06/Process-20030618/tr.html#rec-advance
- 21:23:16 [wendy]
- q?
- 21:23:18 [wendy]
- ack john
- 21:23:23 [wendy]
- zakim, who's on the phone?
- 21:23:23 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Roberto_Scano (muted), Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Yvette_Hoitink (muted), John_Slatin, JasonWhite, [MIT342], Dave_MacDonald, Gregg-and-Ben, Wendy, Avi_Arditti, Bengt
- 21:23:26 [Zakim]
- ... (muted), Tom (muted), Kerstin, [IBM], Katie_Haritos-Shea, Michael_Cooper
- 21:25:11 [sh1mmer]
- q+
- 21:25:43 [sh1mmer]
- ack Tom
- 21:25:46 [wendy]
- q+ to say "don't think things will be solid by the end of the year"
- 21:26:58 [silvia]
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- 21:27:54 [rscano]
- hi silvia
- 21:28:10 [silvia]
- hi
- 21:28:16 [wendy]
- zakim, who's making noise?
- 21:28:29 [Zakim]
- wendy, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: [MIT342] (47%), Tom (47%), JasonWhite (8%)
- 21:28:47 [wendy]
- using wcag itself as an example.
- 21:29:14 [Yvette]
- Fog index: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2001AprJun/0313.html
- 21:29:14 [wendy]
- q?
- 21:29:18 [wendy]
- ack wendy
- 21:29:18 [Zakim]
- wendy, you wanted to say "don't think things will be solid by the end of the year"
- 21:30:17 [m3mSEA]
- zakim, who's making noise?
- 21:30:22 [rscano]
- echoooo :)
- 21:30:27 [Zakim]
- m3mSEA, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [MIT342] (27%), Tom (15%), Michael_Cooper (5%), JasonWhite (4%), Wendy (19%)
- 21:30:43 [sh1mmer]
- oops
- 21:30:57 [rscano]
- zakim, mute Tom
- 21:30:57 [Zakim]
- Tom was already muted, rscano
- 21:31:09 [sh1mmer]
- lol
- 21:31:17 [rscano]
- lol
- 21:31:19 [sh1mmer]
- rscano touche
- 21:31:47 [rcastaldo]
- eh eh eh
- 21:32:55 [rscano]
- ref Fog Index: http://www.juicystudio.com/fog/
- 21:34:39 [wendy]
- where it says "no level 1 for this guideline" is disconcerting.
- 21:35:48 [wendy]
- zakim, who's making noise?
- 21:35:58 [Zakim]
- wendy, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Gregg-and-Ben (25%), [IBM] (49%), JasonWhite (6%)
- 21:36:13 [wendy]
- need something that at high-level gives visibility that don't have any level 1 criteria. not sure of mechanism.
- 21:36:41 [wendy]
- temporary fix: those that don't have level 1 that we put [no level 1 criteria for this guideline]
- 21:36:48 [wendy]
- headers in toc will be long.
- 21:36:59 [wendy]
- ack john
- 21:37:17 [bcaldwell]
- q+
- 21:37:18 [wendy]
- is the normative form online or paper?
- 21:37:36 [wendy]
- online
- 21:38:27 [sh1mmer]
- q+
- 21:39:05 [sh1mmer]
- q-
- 21:39:10 [wendy]
- issue with headers (guidelines) being long. is there a way to break them up?
- 21:39:27 [wendy]
- don't want to use guideline #
- 21:40:07 [wendy]
- [no level 1 criteria] is shorter, but the issue of long guideline text still an issue.
- 21:40:19 [wendy]
- ack bcaldwell
- 21:40:38 [wendy]
- follow guideline w/number that indicates which levels are included.
- 21:40:46 [RylaDog]
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- e.g., (2,3) indicate that no level 1 criteria in this guideline.
- 21:41:39 [wendy]
- don't put something on every guideline. what is it we want to get? if look at high-level view, get a list of minimum things that are required.
- 21:42:06 [wendy]
- q+
- 21:43:02 [wendy]
- group under each principle?
- 21:43:38 [wendy]
- zakim, who's making noise?
- 21:43:49 [Zakim]
- wendy, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Gregg-and-Ben (44%), JasonWhite (9%), Wendy (4%)
- 21:43:56 [wendy]
- zakim, mute JasonWhite
- 21:43:56 [Zakim]
- JasonWhite should now be muted
- 21:44:35 [wendy]
- ack wendy
- 21:45:18 [Zakim]
- -Bengt
- 21:45:19 [Zakim]
- -Roberto_Scano
- 21:45:25 [rscano]
- ?
- 21:45:28 [bengt]
- ?
- 21:46:03 [Zakim]
- +??P8
- 21:46:16 [bengt]
- zakim, ??P8 is Bengt_Farre
- 21:46:16 [Zakim]
- +Bengt_Farre; got it
- 21:46:26 [bengt]
- zakim, I am Bengt_Farre
- 21:46:26 [Zakim]
- ok, bengt, I now associate you with Bengt_Farre
- 21:46:33 [bengt]
- zakim, mute me
- 21:46:33 [Zakim]
- Bengt_Farre should now be muted
- 21:48:09 [Zakim]
- +??P5
- 21:48:11 [sh1mmer]
- q+
- 21:48:15 [wendy]
- usability testing, wcag 2.0 in context of rest of WAI site
- 21:48:19 [sh1mmer]
- ack Tom
- 21:48:21 [rscano]
- zakim, ??P5 is Roberto_Scano
- 21:48:21 [Zakim]
- +Roberto_Scano; got it
- 21:48:28 [rscano]
- zakim, I am Roberto_Scano
- 21:48:28 [Zakim]
- ok, rscano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano
- 21:48:31 [rscano]
- zalim mute me
- 21:48:36 [rscano]
- zakim, mute me
- 21:48:36 [Zakim]
- Roberto_Scano should now be muted
- 21:50:28 [RylaDog]
- q
- 21:50:32 [sh1mmer]
- ack Tom
- 21:50:35 [RylaDog]
- q
- 21:50:52 [RylaDog]
- q+
- 21:51:15 [wendy]
- design techniques gateway based on tasks. need to find out what those tasks are.
- 21:51:26 [rscano]
- zakim, RylaDog is 01Katie-Haritos-Shea
- 21:51:26 [Zakim]
- sorry, rscano, I do not recognize a party named 'RylaDog'
- 21:52:16 [Zakim]
- +??P16
- 21:52:20 [wendy]
- techniques gateway needs to draw people in to get them to consider things they m ight not have intended to.
- 21:52:40 [wendy]
- shouldn't hinder them from doing specific tasks, but encourage them to do more accessibility than they originally intended.
- 21:52:55 [wendy]
- q?
- 21:52:58 [Zakim]
- -??P16
- 21:53:02 [wendy]
- ack Dave
- 21:53:30 [sh1mmer]
- zakim, Katie-Haritos-Shea is RylaDog
- 21:53:30 [Zakim]
- sorry, sh1mmer, I do not recognize a party named 'Katie-Haritos-Shea'
- 21:53:43 [wendy]
- people seemed excited about views. depending on role, could see different information.
- 21:53:48 [rscano]
- zakim, RylaDog is 01Katie_Haritos-Shea
- 21:53:48 [Zakim]
- sorry, rscano, I do not recognize a party named 'RylaDog'
- 21:53:49 [sh1mmer]
- zakim, Katie_Haritos-Shea is RylaDog
- 21:53:49 [Zakim]
- +RylaDog; got it
- 21:53:58 [sh1mmer]
- :P
- 21:54:12 [rscano]
- touche
- 21:54:25 [wendy]
- if we rely on techniques and outreach documents then need to pitch as "different views." i.e., people want to knowthat they can get the info they need."
- 21:54:54 [wendy]
- q+ to say, "the need is to find the information needed for a person's task and background."
- 21:55:00 [wendy]
- ack RylaDog
- 21:55:05 [wendy]
- views only if they are very clear
- 21:55:22 [sh1mmer]
- q+
- 21:55:25 [wendy]
- viws only if they can not be mistaken for the full document
- 21:55:38 [wendy]
- more interaction
- 21:56:20 [wendy]
- nice if we could avoid multiple versions that repeat the guideline text. tables that summarize how things go by level and etc.
- 21:56:24 [Zakim]
- -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
- 21:56:48 [rscano]
- different CSS :)
- 21:57:29 [wendy]
- most important issue, people come to find an answer to something.
- 21:57:46 [wendy]
- "cut and paste" code.
- 21:59:11 [wendy]
- q?
- 21:59:26 [wendy]
- ack wendy
- 21:59:26 [Zakim]
- wendy, you wanted to say, "the need is to find the information needed for a person's task and background."
- 22:00:34 [Yvette]
- Maybe we can have something like a 'quicktour'
- 22:01:28 [rscano]
- or like the QuickTips of WCAG 1.0
- 22:01:32 [Zakim]
- -Avi_Arditti
- 22:02:13 [Yvette]
- q+ to say "Why do you see policy makers as primary audience?"
- 22:02:19 [sh1mmer]
- ack Tom
- 22:02:22 [GVAN]
- Q+
- 22:03:04 [Yvette]
- zakim, unmute me
- 22:03:04 [Zakim]
- Yvette_Hoitink should no longer be muted
- 22:03:08 [wendy]
- concern about views confuse people. "getting started" helps give context and help direct people to different types of info for diff tasks and background.
- 22:03:25 [rscano]
- ack Yvette
- 22:03:25 [Zakim]
- Yvette_Hoitink, you wanted to say "Why do you see policy makers as primary audience?"
- 22:03:29 [wendy]
- wcag 2.0 policy makers? getting started - could make them for different audiences.
- 22:03:42 [wendy]
- e.g., "getting started for policy makers" "getting started for developers" etc.
- 22:04:12 [wendy]
- both audiences have different introductory message.
- 22:04:16 [wendy]
- ack gvan
- 22:05:10 [wendy]
- in other document, had tables. do we need views? instead, crib sheets that give a list of just priority 1 items. it's a separate document. a summary of those things.
- 22:05:21 [Yvette]
- What are "crib sheets"?
- 22:05:21 [wendy]
- formatted to be different, it is different.
- 22:05:38 [wendy]
- crib sheet is a quick overview.
- 22:05:43 [Yvette]
- k, thx
- 22:05:50 [wendy]
- a "cheat sheet" that covers important points.
- 22:06:55 [wendy]
- zakim, who's making noise?
- 22:07:06 [Zakim]
- wendy, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Kerstin (44%), RylaDog (4%), JasonWhite (4%)
- 22:07:24 [wendy]
- like idea of different "getting started" for diff audiences.
- 22:07:32 [rscano]
- me too
- 22:07:44 [Zakim]
- -Roberto_Scano
- 22:07:49 [Zakim]
- -JasonWhite
- 22:08:03 [wendy]
- checklists for WCAG 1.0 are probably more used than the entire document (in our use)
- 22:08:12 [wendy]
- q?
- 22:08:14 [wendy]
- ack kerstin
- 22:08:16 [wendy]
- ack michael
- 22:08:29 [Zakim]
- +??P0
- 22:08:30 [wendy]
- crib sheet/checklist is a view.
- 22:08:36 [wendy]
- they present different subsets of the content.
- 22:08:37 [rscano]
- zakim, ??P0 is Roberto_Scano
- 22:08:37 [Zakim]
- +Roberto_Scano; got it
- 22:08:41 [rscano]
- zakim, I am Roberto_Scano
- 22:08:41 [Zakim]
- ok, rscano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano
- 22:08:50 [Yvette]
- zakim, mute me
- 22:08:50 [Zakim]
- Yvette_Hoitink should now be muted
- 22:08:58 [wendy]
- we want guidelines, checklists, cheat sheets (list of guidelines w/no other materials)
- 22:09:13 [wendy]
- however, those views aren't well-specified and how they work with each other.
- 22:09:32 [Yvette]
- q+ to say "I would like a myths document"
- 22:09:45 [wendy]
- make sure all stay aligned w/each other.
- 22:10:47 [wendy]
- short summaries of key requirements sections is helpful.
- 22:11:09 [Zakim]
- +JasonWhite
- 22:11:19 [wendy]
- having the document w/pieces that disappear can be confusing.
- 22:11:35 [wendy]
- ack yvette
- 22:11:36 [Zakim]
- Yvette_Hoitink, you wanted to say "I would like a myths document"
- 22:12:35 [wendy]
- in getting started, would like "myths" document.
- 22:12:51 [m3mSEA]
- q+
- 22:13:16 [m3mSEA]
- q-
- 22:13:54 [wendy]
- from EOWG deliverables: Add page to business case suite on myths about Web accessibility
- 22:13:57 [wendy]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/EO-Deliverables.html
- 22:13:59 [wendy]
- ack john
- 22:14:12 [wendy]
- providing summaries and quick references is consistent with the guidelines.
- 22:14:29 [wendy]
- providing alt ways to move through document and providing for people with reading and learning difficulties.
- 22:14:49 [wendy]
- gregg? could we spend the last 15 minutes on html techniques?
- 22:15:07 [wendy]
- :)
- 22:15:09 [rscano]
- :)
- 22:15:44 [wendy]
- ===
- 22:15:48 [Yvette]
- q+ to say "What would be the best way to give feedback on many points of the techniques draft?"
- 22:16:25 [wendy]
- techniques - we're working on a draft to publish to http://www.w3.org/TR/
- 22:16:30 [wendy]
- a draft was published last week
- 22:16:41 [Yvette]
- Link to draft: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-HTML-TECHS-20031020.html
- 22:16:54 [wendy]
- any issues to fix before publish to TR?
- 22:17:03 [wendy]
- tried to put in place-holders for all techniques that have come up.
- 22:17:19 [wendy]
- every technique has been split out onto own.
- 22:17:30 [wendy]
- some techniques are uncertain. some have little text.
- 22:17:40 [wendy]
- lots of ednotes to highlight issues.
- 22:18:00 [wendy]
- couple of issues: change wording of a few checklist items (they should be t/f statements)
- 22:18:21 [wendy]
- couple of paragraphs to add.
- 22:18:27 [wendy]
- other than that, ready.
- 22:18:40 [wendy]
- q?
- 22:18:49 [sh1mmer]
- ack Yvette
- 22:18:49 [Zakim]
- Yvette_Hoitink, you wanted to say "What would be the best way to give feedback on many points of the techniques draft?"
- 22:18:50 [wendy]
- ack yvette
- 22:18:58 [sh1mmer]
- sorry wendy
- 22:19:01 [wendy]
- no worries
- 22:19:13 [wendy]
- several emails or one big one?
- 22:19:53 [wendy]
- do any of these issues stop it from going to tr?
- 22:21:35 [Yvette]
- I will read it thoroughly tomorrow morning, then
- 22:22:55 [Yvette]
- I don't think I have any show stoppers
- 22:23:29 [wendy]
- zakim, who's making noise?
- 22:23:44 [Zakim]
- wendy, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: Tom (19%), Kerstin (15%), Michael_Cooper (44%)
- 22:24:08 [sh1mmer]
- Zakim, mute me
- 22:24:08 [Zakim]
- Tom should now be muted
- 22:24:14 [sh1mmer]
- sorry for the kb rattling
- 22:24:24 [wendy]
- ack kerstin
- 22:25:00 [wendy]
- request to discuss html techniques in thursday call
- 22:25:44 [wendy]
- we need "blocker" comments by tomorrow (friday) at the latest.
- 22:27:13 [wendy]
- abbreviation example: there is <th abbr="social security number">ss#</th> should be other way around
- 22:27:29 [wendy]
- action: michael will fix html techniques
- 22:27:35 [wendy]
- kerstin has comments will send after TR
- 22:28:56 [wendy]
- no objections to timeline
- 22:29:00 [wendy]
- ack kerstin
- 22:29:20 [wendy]
- resolution: can move forward
- 22:29:29 [Zakim]
- -RylaDog
- 22:29:31 [sh1mmer]
- zakim, who's on the phone
- 22:29:31 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'who's on the phone', sh1mmer
- 22:29:51 [sh1mmer]
- zakim, who's on the phone?
- 22:29:51 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Yvette_Hoitink, John_Slatin, JasonWhite (muted), [MIT342], Dave_MacDonald, Gregg-and-Ben, Wendy, Tom, Kerstin, [IBM], Michael_Cooper, Bengt_Farre (muted),
- 22:29:52 [wendy]
- ===
- 22:29:54 [Zakim]
- ... Roberto_Scano
- 22:29:57 [wendy]
- testability action item
- 22:31:18 [wendy]
- action: andi summarize testability notes and send to list
- 22:31:35 [wendy]
- action: kerstin? find time to meet with cynthia, andi, and wendy to finish testability action item
- 22:35:05 [Zakim]
- -Kerstin
- 22:35:06 [Zakim]
- -Yvette_Hoitink
- 22:35:07 [Zakim]
- -[IBM]
- 22:35:08 [Zakim]
- -Michael_Cooper
- 22:35:08 [Zakim]
- -Wendy
- 22:35:09 [Zakim]
- -Dave_MacDonald
- 22:35:09 [Zakim]
- -Gregg-and-Ben
- 22:35:10 [Zakim]
- -[MIT342]
- 22:35:15 [rellero]
- bye
- 22:35:17 [Zakim]
- -Roberto_Scano
- 22:35:19 [wendy]
- ciao
- 22:35:21 [Yvette]
- Wendy, could you update the workgroup page regarding the face-to-face meetings?
- 22:35:22 [rscano]
- bye
- 22:35:23 [rellero]
- ciao
- 22:35:26 [rcastaldo]
- ciao
- 22:35:33 [wendy]
- yvette - yes. sorry. the page got out of date.
- 22:35:33 [silvia]
- bye!
- 22:35:41 [Zakim]
- -JasonWhite
- 22:35:49 [wendy]
- zakim, bye
- 22:35:49 [Zakim]
- Zakim has left #wai-wcag
- 22:35:52 [Yvette]
- I only now heard from Roberto Scano next year will be Cannes, not Brussels :-(
- 22:35:53 [wendy]
- RRSAgent, bye
- 22:35:53 [RRSAgent]
- I see 3 open action items:
- 22:35:53 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: michael will fix html techniques [1]
- 22:35:53 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/10/30-wai-wcag-irc#T22-27-29
- 22:35:53 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: andi summarize testability notes and send to list [2]
- 22:35:53 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/10/30-wai-wcag-irc#T22-31-18
- 22:35:53 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: kerstin? find time to meet with cynthia, andi, and wendy to finish testability action item [3]
- 22:35:53 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/10/30-wai-wcag-irc#T22-31-35