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Results of Questionnaire EOWG Weekly Survey - 09 November 2018
The results of this questionnaire are available to anybody. In addition, answers are sent to the following email address: shawn@w3.org
This questionnaire was open from 2018-11-08 to 2018-11-15.
7 answers have been received.
Jump to results for question:
- WAI Translations User Interface (UI)
- Disability language
- Minutes and Resolutions from Teleconference
- Other Information to Share
- EOWG Teleconference Availability
1. WAI Translations User Interface (UI)
summary | by responder | by choice
The proposal for the translations UI is available for review.
Please submit any comments by Monday 19 November.
Before commenting, please:
- Read the analysis of options, pros, cons, considerations in the relevant section of the WAI Translations Analysis
- Check if there is already a GitHub issue for your point (opened or closed)
- if so, add your comment to the existing issue (and if it is closed, re-open it)
- if not, create a new GitHub issue
If you have any questions, feel free to ask Shawn by e-mail (CC public-eo-archive) or IRC.
Options:
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| Choice | All responders |
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| I will pass on reviewing the translations user interface, and am fine with others' decisions. | |
| I skimmed the mock-up and/or translations user interface info, and don't have any comments. I'm fine with it as proposed. | 1 |
| I reviewed the mock-up and translations user interface info, and don't have any comments. I'm fine with it as proposed. | 3 |
| I reviewed the mock-up and read the relevant translations user interface info, and put comments in GitHub (or below). | 2 |
| I would like more time and will submit any comments I have by the date below. |
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| Responder | WAI Translations User Interface (UI) | Comments |
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| Laura Keen |
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| Amanda Mace |
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| Andrew Arch | ||
| Sharron Rush |
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Only one question - there was a proposal for the language choice to be presented as a dropdown. I understand why that may not be feasible but wonder if there is concern that as the number of languages increases, will the list at the top become untenable? |
| Kris Anne Kinney |
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| Brent Bakken |
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- I like the blue box separators more than any other suggested separator on the analysis page. - I still have a small worry that the "skip to content link will be lost if is is aligned *with* the languages. I am not sure what is a better solution. Having on the left would seem awkward. Happy to leave this up to the editors/designers. - Is the change log going to be automated in some way. I cannot imagine us being able to keep up with all the changes while we wait on all of the translations being updated. What is the plan for managing all of the translation changes when a resources changes? This process is not exactly clear in the Updates to English Version section, but I do understand that this is still being drafted/determined. |
| Shawn Lawton Henry |
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| Choice | Responders |
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| I will pass on reviewing the translations user interface, and am fine with others' decisions. | |
| I skimmed the mock-up and/or translations user interface info, and don't have any comments. I'm fine with it as proposed. |
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| I reviewed the mock-up and translations user interface info, and don't have any comments. I'm fine with it as proposed. |
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| I reviewed the mock-up and read the relevant translations user interface info, and put comments in GitHub (or below). |
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| I would like more time and will submit any comments I have by the date below. |
2. Disability language
EOWG proposes to expand the WAI Style Guide on disability language. Previously we always used "people first language". The proposal is to prefer people first language in most cases, and to allow language such as "blind students" in some cases, at the discretion of the document owners (e.g., often EOWG). We will also be providing additional guidance on terminology in other languages for translators.
If you find perspectives on disability language that are authoritative (e.g., officially from a disability organizations), particularly well justified, etc. — from the last few years — please list them in the field below with:
[preferred language] - [date of publication or update] - [organization &/or individual] - [summary of perspective]
Thanks!
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
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| Results |
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| Responder | Disability language | Disability language perspectives |
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| Laura Keen | ||
| Amanda Mace | ||
| Andrew Arch | ||
| Sharron Rush | - [blind person][2009 reprint of 1993 resolution] [National Federation of the Blind] Opposed people first language as "pretentious euphemisms that characterize almost everything we do and say. Euphemisms and the politically correct language which they exemplify are sometimes only prissy, sometimes ridiculous, and sometimes tiresome. Often, however, they are more than that. At their worst they obscure clear thinking and damage the very people and causes they claim to benefit. - [ID first] [8 Oct 2018] [Wikipedia reporting on NFB, deaf culture, and Autism activist Jim Sinclair] Opposed to people first language. "the awkwardness ... focuses on the disability in a new and potentially negative way" and "we understand autism as an inherent part of an individual’s identity..." etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People-first_language#Criticism - [People first] The same Wikipedia article notes that "Other advocacy groups and organizations such as Autism Speaks,The Arc and Disability Is Natural support using people-first language." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People-first_language#Criticism - [ID first] [May 2010] [The Continuing Saga of People-First Language by Larry E. Streeter for NFB] Strongly opposed and includes his informal surveys of blind friends and colleagues about their own preference. https://nfb.org/images/nfb/publications/bm/bm10/bm1005/bm100509.htm More opposition to absolutism in the use of people first language: https://thebodyisnotanapology.com/magazine/the-problem-with-person-first-language/ https://nfb.org/images/nfb/publications/bm/bm09/bm0903/bm090309.htm https://www.thinkinclusive.us/why-person-first-language-doesnt-always-put-the-person-first/ https://theblog.adobe.com/liz-jackson-accessibility-inclusive-design/ | |
| Kris Anne Kinney | ||
| Brent Bakken | Deaf people do not like to be referred to as People with hearing impairment. They want to be a part of a community of people with the same condition and many time prefer "Deaf people" or "Deaf person" with a capital "D" to indicate that they are part of a community. I have heard this many times by my colleague/team member in Pearson whom I work with. She is deaf and although is very forgiving of whatever language is used, has made it clear to our team that someone who is deaf prefers to be called a Deaf person, not a person who is deaf. Some documentation - http://theaslapp.com/faq/ from The ASL App website. | |
| Shawn Lawton Henry |
3. Minutes and Resolutions from Teleconference
summary | by responder | by choice
Please read or skim this week's teleconference meeting minutes. Indicate your approval or concerns with the minutes and resolution(s) passed at that meeting. The summary and the link to the full minutes is on the 2018 Minutes wiki page.
If you missed the teleconference, please indicate on the wiki page that you read the minutes — after [done], add your name and date.
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
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| I was in the teleconference and I don't have any comments on the Resolutions or minutes. | 5 |
| I have reviewed the minutes and agree to the Resolutions passed. | 1 |
| I have reviewed the minutes but have concerns with the minutes or Resolutions, and I explain them below. | 1 |
| I have not read the minutes yet, and have put the date for my review into the comments box. |
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| Responder | Minutes and Resolutions from Teleconference | Comments |
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| Laura Keen |
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| Amanda Mace |
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| Andrew Arch |
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| Sharron Rush |
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Omissions were made to discussion points - items were removed via s// for reasons that are not clear to me. |
| Kris Anne Kinney |
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| Brent Bakken |
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| Shawn Lawton Henry |
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| Choice | Responders |
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| I was in the teleconference and I don't have any comments on the Resolutions or minutes. |
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| I have reviewed the minutes and agree to the Resolutions passed. |
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| I have reviewed the minutes but have concerns with the minutes or Resolutions, and I explain them below. |
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| I have not read the minutes yet, and have put the date for my review into the comments box. |
4. Other Information to Share
Feel free to put here things such as:
- What you worked on for EOWG this week.
- What you would like EOWG folks to know.
- Information or questions for EOWG planning — for upcoming teleconferences, future work planning, etc.
(Note that the results of this survey are available publicly, so what you put here can be seen by all. :)
Work for upcoming EOWG teleconferences: If you have upcoming work, please describe what you want to bring to the group in the comment field below. Send any draft material to public-eo-plan@w3.org by Tuesday if possible.
Please plan to join the EO-Planning meeting to prepare for Friday EOWG meeting:
Wednesday- 8am CT / 9am ET / 3pm CET
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Details
| Responder | Other Information to Share |
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| Laura Keen | |
| Amanda Mace | |
| Andrew Arch | |
| Sharron Rush | |
| Kris Anne Kinney | |
| Brent Bakken | |
| Shawn Lawton Henry | Added outreach ideas to <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/EOWG_Outreach#Misc_Notes>: * Encourage conference organizers to send this link to all their presenters: https://www.w3.org/WAI/teach-advocate/accessible-presentations/ Hopefully some "thought-leaders" will follow the link, look around and find other useful info on the site, and spread the word about WAI resources. * For articles, blogs, tweets, etc. that cover topics related to WAI resources yet don't mention the WAI resource, add it to the comments &/or otherwise encourage the author to add it Updated Business Case tweet data at https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Promoting_Business_Case#Record_of_outreach_and_mentions |
5. EOWG Teleconference Availability
Have you updated your EOWG Teleconference Availability lately? (If not, please do so now. Thank you!)
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
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| Results | |
| yes | 7 |
| no |
Details
| Responder | EOWG Teleconference Availability |
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| Laura Keen | yes |
| Amanda Mace | yes |
| Andrew Arch | yes |
| Sharron Rush | yes |
| Kris Anne Kinney | yes |
| Brent Bakken | yes |
| Shawn Lawton Henry | yes |
More details on responses
- Laura Keen: last responded on 9, November 2018 at 15:01 (UTC)
- Amanda Mace: last responded on 11, November 2018 at 03:40 (UTC)
- Andrew Arch: last responded on 11, November 2018 at 22:44 (UTC)
- Sharron Rush: last responded on 12, November 2018 at 17:35 (UTC)
- Kris Anne Kinney: last responded on 12, November 2018 at 19:31 (UTC)
- Brent Bakken: last responded on 13, November 2018 at 21:44 (UTC)
- Shawn Lawton Henry: last responded on 14, November 2018 at 20:21 (UTC)
Non-responders
The following persons have not answered the questionnaire:
- Eric Velleman
- Shadi Abou-Zahra
- Sylvie Duchateau
- Kazuhito Kidachi
- Jedi Lin
- David Sloan
- Mary Jo Mueller
- Vicki Menezes Miller
- Reinaldo Ferraz
- Bill Kasdorf
- Cristina Mussinelli
- Kevin White
- Kevin Rydberg
- Adina Halter
- Denis Boudreau
- Sarah Pulis
- Bill Tyler
- Gregorio Pellegrino
- Ruoxi Ran
- Jennifer Chadwick
- Sean Kelly
- Muhammad Saleem
- Sarah Lewthwaite
- Daniel Montalvo
- Mark Palmer
- Jade Matos Carew
- Sonsoles López Pernas
- Greta Krafsig
- Jason McKee
- Jayne Schurick
- Billie Johnston
- Michele Williams
- Shikha Nikhil Dwivedi
- Brian Elton
- Julianna Rowsell
- Tabitha Mahoney
- Fred Edora
- Rabab Gomaa
- Marcelo Paiva
- Eloisa Guerrero
- Leonard Beasley
- Frankie Wolf
- Supriya Makude
- Aleksandar Cindrikj
- Angela Young
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