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Results of Questionnaire Approval to Publish ACT Rule "HTML Page has Title"

The results of this questionnaire are available to anybody. In addition, answers are sent to the following email address: team-wcag-act-surveys@w3.org

This questionnaire was open from 2019-10-24 to 2019-10-31.

5 answers have been received.

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Request to Publish ACT Rules "HTML Page has Title"

1. Request to Publish ACT Rules "HTML Page has Title"

As part of publishing the ACT Rules Format, the ACT Task Force would like to publish one of the ACT Rules. The intent is to give an example of what a rule will look like, and to establish a place on the WAI website for where more rules will be published in the future.

The ACT Task Force has completed review of the following rule:

https://raw.githack.com/w3c/wcag-act-rules/page-title-rule/content/html-page-has-title-2779a5.html

Do you agree with the proposal from the ACT Task Force to publish this rule to the WAI website together with the publication of the ACT Rules Format recommendation?

Summary

Choice	All responders
Choice	Results
Yes, publish the "HTML Page has Title" rule as is
Yes, publish the "HTML Page has Title" rule, provided the following comments are addressed during the next update to this rule	5
No, the ACT Rules Format should be published without this as a sample rule

Details

Responder	Request to Publish ACT Rules "HTML Page has Title"	Comments
Andrew Kirkpatrick	Yes, publish the "HTML Page has Title" rule, provided the following comments are addressed during the next update to this rule	Including my comments from emails with ACT TF facilitators to see if any one else agrees: I think that example #2 confuses things. The title in the example is <title>This page gives a title to an iframe</title> - but it isn’t giving a title to an iframe, it is giving a title to a page that contains an iframe. Similarly, failed examples 1 and 3 are the same, except one has an iframe and one has a heading. I think that you should: * change the note in the applicability section to: Note: Documents embedded into other documents, such as through iframe or object elements are not applicable @@and do not require page titles@@ because they are not web pages according to the definition in WCAG * remove passed example 2 with the iframe or modify it to be parallel to failed example 1. * Remove failed example 3 * Add a passed example (#1?) that has the standard use of title: <html> <head> <title>Title of the page.</title> </head> </html>
David MacDonald	Yes, publish the "HTML Page has Title" rule, provided the following comments are addressed during the next update to this rule	Not sure about the 2 <title> elements on a page. - There is a passing one where they are both there - A passing one has the 2nd one empty - A failing one has the first one empty. Not sure would like the justification for this... is this because browsers display only the first in the tab, or the way Screen readers interpret? doesn't seem to be in the WCAG... is it justified therefore under the accessibility support? Also I would like to capture the rational for not having a title inside the html of an iframe. I agree with the rational, (that the iframe is not a page according to WCAG definition) but it seems automated tools don't apply the same rational to lang tag on a html in an iframe. Seems they fail a missing lang tag in the html element of an iframe, even if the iframe content is in the same language of the page.
Alastair Campbell	Yes, publish the "HTML Page has Title" rule, provided the following comments are addressed during the next update to this rule	As per my email, either use Andrew's changes, or my version was to update the title to be clearer what the example was about.
Laura Carlson	Yes, publish the "HTML Page has Title" rule, provided the following comments are addressed during the next update to this rule	Agree with@awk's comments.
Bruce Bailey	Yes, publish the "HTML Page has Title" rule, provided the following comments are addressed during the next update to this rule	Agree w/ AWK and DM concerns.