IRC log of webont on 2002-05-30

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15:43:12 [DanC_]

Zakim, this will be WEBO

15:43:17 [Zakim]

ok, DanC_

15:43:39 [DanC_]

DanC_ has changed the topic to: 30May WebOnt WG http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/WebOnt/

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15:49:11 [raphael]

Hi -

15:49:17 [DanC_]

hi

15:49:26 [raphael]

DanC_ do you know how to scribe ? any special requirements

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15:51:26 [schreiber]

hi, pahael, I hope we can do the roll call via Zakim

15:51:36 [raphael]

Hi guus, any special requirements for the scribing ???

15:52:15 [raphael]

Is the conference bridge already open ?

15:52:17 [schreiber]

not really, main points are to record the actions/decisions

15:52:35 [raphael]

OK. Send the first draft to the list or directly to you ?

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15:56:30 [DanC_]

logger_1, pointer?

15:56:31 [logger_1]

See http://ilrt.org/discovery/chatlogs/webont/2002-05-30#T15-56-30

15:56:33 [DanC_]

RRSAgent, pointer?

15:56:35 [RRSAgent]

See http://www.w3.org/2002/05/30-webont-irc#T15-56-33

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+JHendler

15:57:04 [schreiber]

raphael, you can send the first draft directly to the list

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+??P0

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15:58:27 [jhendler]

zakim, ??P0 is Guus

15:58:28 [Zakim]

+Guus; got it

15:58:29 [Zakim]

+??P7

15:58:46 [DanC_]

Guus, did you cite last meeting's minutes from the agenda?

15:58:47 [Zakim]

+ +1.408.732.aaaa

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+??P11

15:58:50 [jhendler]

zakim, ??P7 is JohnStant

15:58:53 [Zakim]

+JohnStant; got it

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zakim, ??P11 is raphael

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+Raphael; got it

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zakim, aaaa is jonDale

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+JonDale; got it

15:59:32 [jhendler]

zakim, who is here

15:59:34 [Zakim]

jhendler, you need to end that query with '?'

15:59:36 [jhendler]

zakim, who is here?

15:59:38 [Zakim]

I see JHendler, Guus, JohnStant, JonDale, Raphael

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+Massimo

16:00:15 [DanC_]

23May minutes: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002May/0201.html

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+Stein

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+??P14

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+ +1.484.892.aabb

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+??P21

16:00:48 [jhendler]

zakim,??p14 is Evan

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+??P22

16:01:15 [jono]

hello

16:01:15 [jhendler]

zakim,??p21 is Larry

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16:01:32 [jhendler]

zakim, who is here

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zakim, who is here?

16:01:34 [Zakim]

jhendler, you need to end that query with '?'

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I see JHendler, Guus, JohnStant, JonDale, Raphael, Massimo (muted), Stein, ??P14, +1.484.892.aabb, ??P21, ??P22

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+DanC

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-??P22

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+??P3

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+??P12

16:02:12 [DanC_]

Zakim, who's here?

16:02:13 [Zakim]

I see JHendler, Guus, JohnStant, JonDale, Raphael, Massimo (muted), Stein, ??P14, +1.484.892.aabb, ??P21, DanC, ??P3, ??P12

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+??P20

16:03:07 [DanC_]

Zakim, ??P20 is JosD

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+JosD; got it

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Zakim, ??P21 is JeffH

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+JeffH; got it

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+??P22

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Zakim, ??P12 is DavidT

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+DavidT; got it

16:04:08 [DanC_]

Zakim, who's here?

16:04:09 [Zakim]

I see JHendler, Guus, JohnStant, JonDale, Raphael, Massimo (muted), Stein, ??P14, +1.484.892.aabb, JeffH, DanC, ??P3, DavidT, JosD, ??P22

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+??P24

16:04:18 [DanC_]

Zakim, ??P3 is LibbyM

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+LibbyM; got it

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Zakim, ??P24 is ZivH

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+ZivH; got it

16:04:35 [DanC_]

Zakim, who's here?

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I see JHendler, Guus, JohnStant, JonDale, Raphael, Massimo (muted), Stein, ??P14, +1.484.892.aabb, JeffH, DanC, LibbyM, DavidT, JosD, ??P22, ZivH

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+??P25

16:05:00 [DanC_]

Zakim, ??P25 is LarryE

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+LarryE; got it

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Zakim, ??P22 is Wallace

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+Wallace; got it

16:05:12 [DanC_]

Zakim, who's here?

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I see JHendler, Guus, JohnStant, JonDale, Raphael, Massimo (muted), Stein, ??P14, +1.484.892.aabb, JeffH, DanC, LibbyM, DavidT, JosD, Wallace, ZivH, LarryE (muted)

16:05:32 [DanC_]

Zakim, ??P14 is JeremyC

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+JeremyC; got it

16:05:48 [DanC_]

oops... I should have used "is perhaps JeremyC" and so on.

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+ +1.703.883.aacc

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Zakim, aacc is LeoO

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+LeoO; got it

16:06:31 [jhendler]

regrets Dean, Finin, Gibbins, Hellman, Klein, McGuinness, Smith, sabbouh, vanHarmelen

16:07:04 [DanC_]

er... any reason not to cite the schedule proposal?

16:07:10 [Zakim]

+ +1.416.595.aadd

16:07:25 [DanC_]

# ALL: WG schedule Guus Schreiber (Wed, Mar 27 2002) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Mar/0313.html

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+ +1.613.637.aaee

16:07:33 [DanC_]

Zakim, aadd is ChrisWelty

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+ChrisWelty; got it

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Zakim, aaee is IanH

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+IanH; got it

16:08:15 [jhendler]

zakim, who is here?

16:08:17 [Zakim]

I see JHendler, Guus, JohnStant, JonDale, Raphael, Massimo (muted), Stein, JeremyC, +1.484.892.aabb, JeffH, DanC, LibbyM, DavidT, JosD, Wallace, ZivH, LarryE (muted), LeoO,

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... ChrisWelty, IanH

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+??P30

16:09:49 [DanC_]

hm... DDeR... ah... D.C. De Roure

16:09:57 [Zakim]

+NickG

16:10:10 [DanC_]

did you just dial in, D.C.?

16:10:17 [DDeR]

Yes I did Dan, thanks

16:10:48 [DDeR]

I'm acting as Nick G's alternate - he's moving house - but I'm time-limited

16:11:18 [Zakim]

-IanH

16:13:55 [jono]

danC: I would say by the 26th; that should give the caterers enough time to adjust food requirements

16:14:00 [DanC_]

many of these documents are (finally) cited from the WG home page. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/WebOnt/#Current

16:14:29 [Zakim]

+??P29

16:14:36 [DanC_]

registration closes 26Jun; ok. Wanna pad that? you'll *start* getting registrations on whatever deadline you set.

16:15:01 [DanC_]

Zakim, ??P29 is perhaps IanH

16:15:02 [Zakim]

+IanH?; got it

16:15:09 [Zakim]

+Jonathan.Borden

16:15:31 [DanC_]

this one, yes? http://www.ksl.stanford.edu/people/dlm/webont/compliance.html

16:16:16 [jono]

danc: whatever you think appropriate, that's kind of the minimum date I would expect the caterers to need - what about the friday before that - the 21st?

16:16:28 [DanC_]

yeah, let's say 21st

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16:21:15 [DanC_]

hmm... so this one isn't the right one. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002May/att-0173/01-owl.html

16:22:07 [DanC_]

this one? 22May http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002May/0178.html

16:22:54 [jhendler]

regrets - Enrico Motta.

16:23:03 [DanC_]

where there *any* substantive comments, Jeff?

16:25:44 [Zakim]

+??P35

16:34:07 [DanC_]

"08:54:03 [nmg]

16:34:07 [DanC_]

pfps: removal of inverseOf was on the basis of complexity of inference"

16:34:41 [DanC_]

http://www.w3.org/2002/04/08-webont-irc

16:35:07 [DanC_]

other issue: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/WebOnt/webont-issues.html#5.1-Unifo

16:36:58 [DanC_]

woohoo! we closed an issue!

16:42:27 [JonB]

q+

16:43:34 [las]

If restrict sibling toclass person, then sibling subset person, right?

16:43:36 [JonB]

w.r.t. W3C voting mechanism, this appears to exclude invited experts

16:44:06 [JonB]

which is ok by me if you don't care for my opinion in a straw poll

16:44:28 [DanC_]

no, that was a bug, Jon. You're authorized to contribute.

16:45:31 [DanC_]

I fixed the bug.

16:45:37 [JonB]

thx

16:46:19 [DanC_]

pls do register, btw, jon.

16:46:23 [DanC_]

for the ftf.

16:46:43 [jhendler]

classHasProperty and ClassInstanceHasProperty ??

16:47:21 [DanC_]

27May DTTF thingy: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002May/0229.html

16:48:43 [Zakim]

-ChrisWelty

16:52:38 [Massimo]

q+

16:52:46 [JonB]

q-

16:54:38 [Massimo]

q-

16:54:54 [jhendler]

ack DanC

16:58:05 [JonB]

http://www.openhealth.org/WOWG/DTTF is URI for amended document

16:58:55 [JonB]

q+

17:04:26 [jhendler]

ack JonB

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q+

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ack massimo

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17:09:18 [pfps]

I know why I didn't use XSV. I couldn't see how to run a schema in XSV, i.e., use a schema to determine whether an XML document was valid int he schema.

17:09:53 [schreiber]

zakim, q

17:09:54 [Zakim]

I don't understand 'q', schreiber. Try /msg Zakim help

17:10:00 [schreiber]

q?

17:10:01 [jhendler]

q

17:10:27 [DanC_]

you can get going pretty easily by putting a pointer to your schema and a pointer to your example document into http://www.w3.org/2001/03/webdata/xsv

17:10:55 [DanC_]

running xsv locally on your desktop is more involved; I've never actually done it.

17:11:04 [DanC_]

I know other folks have.

17:12:03 [jhendler]

zakim, who is here

17:12:04 [Zakim]

jhendler, you need to end that query with '?'

17:12:06 [jhendler]

zakim, who is here?

17:12:07 [Zakim]

I see JHendler, Guus, JohnStant, JonDale, Raphael, Massimo, Stein, JeremyC, +1.484.892.aabb, JeffH, DanC, LibbyM, DavidT, JosD, Wallace, ZivH, LarryE (muted), LeoO, ??P30, NickG,

17:12:10 [Zakim]

... IanH?, Jonathan.Borden, ??P35 (muted)

17:12:40 [pfps]

Ah ha! I didn't notice that you could do validation on the interface.

17:16:29 [Zakim]

-LarryE

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-JeremyC

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-Stein

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-DavidT

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-JeffH

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-LeoO

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-Jonathan.Borden

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-ZivH

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-Wallace

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-LibbyM

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-??P35

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-DanC

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-Guus

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-Raphael

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-??P30

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-IanH?

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-Massimo

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-JHendler

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- +1.484.892.aabb

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-JohnStant

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-NickG

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-JosD

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-JonDale

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