Based on IRC log
1. Roll Present 8/6 BEA Systems, Mark Nottingham IBM, David Fallside Microsoft Corporation, Martin Gudgin Nokia, Michael Mahan Oracle, Anish Karmarkar SeeBeyond, Pete Wenzel Sun Microsystems, Marc Hadley Sun Microsystems, Tony Graham Excused BEA Systems, David Orchard Microsoft Corporation, Jeff Schlimmer Oracle, Jeff Mischkinsky Regrets SAP AG, Volker Wiechers Canon, Herve Ruellan Canon, Jean-Jacques Moreau IBM, Noah Mendelsohn IBM, John Ibbotson W3C, Yves Lafon Absent IONA Technologies, Suresh Kodichath SAP AG, Gerd Hoelzing [Scribe] 2. Agenda Review [Scribe] AOB [Scribe] MarcH: Question about a face-to-face, did we decide anything? [Scribe] Chair: We decided we would hold one if the number of LC comments warranted it [Scribe] Chair: Anticipate a F-T-F when we exit CR [Scribe] Chair: I need to work up a revised timetable and we can then decide on a FTF date [Scribe] ACTION: DavidF to generate a rough timetable showing CR and post-CR FTF meeting [Scribe] No other items of business 3. Review of Minutes Postponed 4 and 5. Action Item Review & Status [Scribe] Editorial action items related to 472, 474 and 475 are complete [MGudgin] ACTION: MarcH to send mail to WSDesc group asking for clarification on semantics of 'required' in the optimization feature. [MGudgin] ACTION: Anish to send e-mail to xml-dist-app raising topic of granularity of WSDEsc SOAP descriptions [Scribe] Primer review [Scribe] WG encouraged to review Primer document and send comments to xml-dist-app [Scribe] ACTION: Chair to invite Nilo to upcoming telcon to discuss the primer [Scribe] MMahan: Just new sections or whole document? [Scribe] Chair: Primarily new sections but we need to ensure they fit well with the rest of the document [Scribe] 6. LC Issues [Scribe] Issue 470 [Scribe] http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/xmlp-lc-issues#470 [Scribe] We got pushback from Graham Klyne on this issue [anish] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2004Jun/0044.html [Scribe] ACTION 5 = MarkN to investigate use of start-info and make a proposal for resolving issue 470 by 2004-07-26 [Scribe] Issue 487 [Scribe] http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/xmlp-lc-issues#487 [Scribe] Proposal is [Scribe] "XOP Documents allow extensions to the xop:Include element when they do [Scribe] not change its semantics. Changes to the semantics MUST be identified by [Scribe] a new namespace URI (i.e., they MUST define a new Include element [Scribe] information item in another namespace). " [Scribe] +1 from MarcH [Scribe] No objection to closing Issue 487 with the above proposal per Gudge's e-mail [Scribe] ACTION: Gudge to send closing e-mail to xmlp-comments and commentator for Issue 487 [Scribe] ACTION: Editors to incorporate resolution to Issue 487 [Scribe] Issue 493 [Scribe] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2004Jul/0004.html [Scribe] Proposal: Close issue with rationale that such additional material is not appropriate for a spec [Scribe] Above proposal adopted without objection [Scribe] ACTION: MArkN to send mail to Fujisawa-san and xmlp-comments closing Issue 493 and providing our rationale [Scribe] Issue 494 [Scribe] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2004Jul/0005.html [Scribe] Discussion of normative nature of schemas WRT XML .11 [Scribe] Proposal: Resolve 494 by stating the schema for Xop is intended to be non-normation and make Rep schema non-normative. [Scribe] Rationale is that it obviates issues WRT XML 1.1 [Scribe] MarkN: It's not good to specify things in two different ways [Scribe] Issue 494 is so closed [Scribe] More discussion [Scribe] Anish points out that Rep header is SOAP specific [Scribe] while XOP is not [Scribe] So rationale for 494 is that Rep is SOAP specific ( XML 1.0 only ). XOP is NOT SOAP specific and needs to allows XML 1.0/1.1 [Scribe] So we will NOT make Rep schema non-normative [Scribe] So Issue 494 is closed with NO change [Scribe] ACTION: MikeM to send closing e-mail for Issue 494 to Fujisawa-san and xmlp-comments providing our rationale [Scribe] Issue 495 [Scribe] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2004Jul/0006.html [Scribe] This is a duplicate of Issue 470 [Scribe] Closed as a duplicate [Scribe] ACTION 10 = DavidF to send closing e-mail for Issue 495 [Scribe] Issue 496 [Scribe] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2004Jul/0007.html [Scribe] Classified editorial [Scribe] ACTION: Editors to resolve Issue 496 and send closing e-mail [Scribe] Issue 497 [Scribe] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2004Jul/0008.html [Scribe] Classified editorial [Scribe] ACTION: Editors to resolve Issue 497 and send closing e-mail [Scribe] Issue 498 [Scribe] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2004Jul/0009.html [Scribe] ACTION: DavidF to send e-mail to Fujisawa-san asking for clarification on Issue 498 ( mention the cid: restriction) [Scribe] Issue 499 [Scribe] ACTION 13 = DavidF to send e-mail to Fujisawa-san asking for clarification on Issue 498 [Scribe] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2004Jul/0010.html [anish] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2004Jul/0018.html [Scribe] Proposal to close 499 with anish's rational and make no change [Scribe] Adopted with no objection [Scribe] ACTION: Pete Wenzel to send closing e-mail for 499 [Zakim] WS_XMLP()11:30AM has ended [Zakim] Attendees were David_Fallside, Marc, Gudge, TonyGraham, Anish, Mark_Nottingham, M.Mahan [RRSAgent] I see 13 open action items: [RRSAgent] ACTION: DavidF to generate a rough timetable showing CR and post-CR FTF meeting [1] [RRSAgent] ACTION: MarcH to send mail to WSDesc group asking for clarification on semantics of 'required' in the optimization feature. [2] [RRSAgent] ACTION: Chair to invite Nilo to upcoming telcon to discuss the primer [4] [RRSAgent] ACTION: MarkN to investigate use of start-info and make a proposal for resolving issue 470 by 2004-07-26 [5] [RRSAgent] ACTION: Gudge to send closing e-mail to xmlp-comments and commentator for Issue 487 [6] [RRSAgent] ACTION: Editors to incorporate resolution to Issue 487 [7] [RRSAgent] ACTION: MArkN to send mail to Fujisawa-san and xmlp-comments closing Issue 493 and providing our rationale [8] [RRSAgent] ACTION: MikeM to send closing e-mail for Issue 494 to Fujisawa-san and xmlp-comments providing our rationale [9] [RRSAgent] ACTION: DavidF to send closing e-mail for Issue 495 [10] [RRSAgent] ACTION: Editors to resolve Issue 496 and send closing e-mail [11] [RRSAgent] ACTION: Editors to resolve Issue 497 and send closing e-mail [12] [RRSAgent] ACTION: DavidF to send e-mail to Fujisawa-san asking for clarification on Issue 498 [13] [RRSAgent] ACTION: Pete Wenzel to send closing e-mail for 499 [14]