Minutes of XML Protocol WG f2f meeting

SAP Labs, Palo Alto, CA

Day 3, 1 August 2002

Based on IRC logs for 1 August, 2 August

Present:
Asir Vedamuthu, WebMethods
Yves Lafon, W3C (scribe, a.m.)
Martin Gudgin, Microsoft
Colleen Evans, Progress
Carine Bournez, W3C
Noah Mendelsohn, IBM
David Fallside, IBM (chair)
Volker Wiechers, SAP
Anish Karmarkar, Oracle
Herve Ruellan, Canon
Gerd Hoelzing, SAP
Ryuji Inoue, Matsushita
Kazunori Iwasa, Fujitsu
Mark Jones, ATT (scribe, p.m.)

Present by Phone (Partial):
Mark Baker, Idokorro

Excused:
Camilo Arbelaez, webMethods 
John Ibbotson, IBM 
Henrik Nielsen, Microsoft 
Jeff Mischkinsky, Oracle
Jean-Jacques Moreau, CanonResearchCentreFrance 
Paul Cotton, Microsoft 
Michah Lerner, ATT
Masahiko Narita, Fujitsu

Regrets:
Highland Mountain, Intel 
Pete Wenzel, SeeBeyond 
David Orchard, BEASystems
Paul Denning, MITRE
Oisin Hurley, IONA 
[Mark Baker, IdokorroMobile, Inc.]
Stuart Williams, Hewlett-PackardLabs 
Marc Hadley, SunMicrosystems 
Amr Yassin, Philips 
Jacek Kopecky, Systinet 
Nilo Mitra, Ericsson 
Glen Daniels, Macromedia
Murali Janakiraman, RogueWaveSoftware 
Don Mullen, TIBCOExtensibility 
Michael Champion, SoftwareAG 
Yin-Leng Husband, Hewlett-Packard
Bob Lojek, Intalio
Ray Whitmer, Netscape

Absent:
Jin Yu, MArtsoft
Mario Jeckle, Daimler Chrysler
Andreas Riegg, Daimler Chrysler
Brad Lund, Intel
Eric Newcomer, IONA
Simeon Simeonov, Macromedia
Marwan Sabbouh, MITRE
Vidur Apparao, Netscape
Yasser alSafadi, Philips
Patrick Thompson, Rogue Wave
Dietmar Gaertner, Software AG
Miroslav Simek, Systinet
Frank DeRose, TIBCO
Lynne Thompson, Unisys
Nick Smilonich, Unisys

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[Yves] zakim, this will probably be XMLP 
[Zakim] I don't understand 'this will probably be XMLP', Yves. Try /msg Zakim help 
[Yves] zakim, this will be XMLP 
[Zakim] ok, Yves 
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[scribe_yl] ==== issue 339 ======= 
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[scribe_yl] herve is summarizing the interpretation of the tables 
[scribe_yl] proposal is at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-protocol-wg/2002Aug/0001.html 
[scribe_yl] so basically, talbes are correct, and only clarifications will be made 
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[scribe_yl] proposal is to respond with commentator that tables are ok, and changes done to calrify the
meaning ot the tables 
[scribe_yl] also, the table 23 have a new line for errorcode ErrorEncodingUnknown 
[scribe_yl] (error 500) 
[scribe_yl] this will close issue 340 with that one 
[MarkB] 500? I would have thought 400. 
[carine] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2002Aug/0000.html 
[carine] Anish sent an email about this one 
[scribe_yl] markB: it's like version mismatch, that has 500 
[carine] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2002Aug/0001.html 
[carine] Chris says 400 
[Zakim] WS_XMLP(f2f)12:00PM has now started 
[Zakim] WS_XMLP(f2f)12:00PM has ended 
[MarkB] Henrik seems to have the magic touch for making those calls. Can we defer to him? 
[scribe_yl] can't read envelope -> 500, can't understand encoding -> 500 
[MarkB] true 
[Mark_J] we're live on the conference bridge now 
[MarkB] yah, no phone lines are avaialble right now, so I can't call out 
[scribe_yl] consensus in the room is 500 
[MarkB] ok 
[scribe_yl] we may revisit that when Henrik come back from holidays 
[scribe_yl] ACTION: Editors to make the changes per Herve's email, and add the line in table 23 
[scribe_yl] ACTION: Herve to send email to xmlp-comments and commentator about closing issue 339 
[scribe_yl] ACTION 1= Editors to make the changes per Herve's email wrt 339 
[scribe_yl] ACTION Editors to add a line to table 23 per issue 340 
[scribe_yl] ACTION Herve to send email to xmlp-comments and commentator about closing issue 340 
[scribe_yl] ACTION: Editors to add a line to table 23 per issue 340 
[scribe_yl] ACTION: Herve to send email to xmlp-comments and commentator about closing issue 340 
[scribe_yl] more on editorial comment in 7.5.1.2 
[scribe_yl] herve suggested to have 2 lines in 400 
[scribe_yl] 1/ contains no fault 
[scribe_yl] 2/ contains a fault 
[scribe_yl] Gudge: content-type is here to figure out in which case you are 
[scribe_yl] resolution on this is to postpone with a complete proposal (on dist-app) 
[scribe_yl] ACTION: Herve to take "editorial note" on table 17 (7.5.1.2) and come up with a proposal on dist-app 
[scribe_yl] <issue number="314"> 
[Gudge] ACTION: Herve to take "editorial note" on properties that are URIs and come up witha proposal on dist-app
[scribe_yl] comment divided as following: 
[scribe_yl] 1/ use URI for edges 
[scribe_yl] noah: do we label nodes or serialization? 
[scribe_yl] gudge: nodes 
[scribe_yl] 2/ URIs to identify nodes 
[scribe_yl] noah: why datamodel has IDs (optional id)? 
[scribe_yl] noah: in the case of edges, we don't require them to be unique, we can have a recursive datastruct,
everything will have the same qname, what is the use case here? 
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[asir] I have some info on LC 314 
[asir] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-protocol-wg/2002Aug/0002.html 
[scribe_yl] gudge: arcs in rdf may have the same URI. 
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[scribe_yl] ??P6 is probably F2Froom 
[scribe_yl] zakim, ??P6 is probably F2Froom 
[Zakim] +F2Froom?; got it 
[MarkB] zakim, ??P7 might be me 
[Zakim] I don't understand '??P7 might be me', MarkB. Try /msg Zakim help 
[MarkB] zakim, ??P7 may be me 
[Zakim] +MarkB?; got it 
[scribe_yl] noah: coherent thing to do is either status quo, or switch to URI, not having the two 
[scribe_yl] looking at Asir's email 
[scribe_yl] noah: adding uri may need to check inconsitencies 
[scribe_yl] 3.1.1, 1 and 2 
[scribe_yl] it says we are not using id in the node but in the serialization 
[scribe_yl] identifying a variable in java is done by navigating in a reference tree 
[Noah] Why object identity is relative, not absolute: 
[Noah] object label1 = new Foo(); 
[Noah] object label2 = label1; 
[Noah] label1 = null; 
[Noah] **** 
[Noah] object label1 = new Foo(); 
[Noah] * //Object known as label1 
[Noah] object label2 = label1; 
[Noah] * //Object known as label1 and label2 
[Noah] label1 = null; 
[Noah] * //Object known as label2 
[scribe_yl] http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-qname-uri-mapping 
[scribe_yl] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2002Jan/0221.html 
[scribe_yl] suggestion: tag will resolve this by having the URI derived from Qname 
[scribe_yl] noah: ID is there by mistake, it has never been set (unlike value, type...) 
[scribe_yl] fidning is done by navigation, not direct reference 
[scribe_yl] * We traverse from the node at the beginning at the encoding, rather than identify 
[scribe_yl] proposal, close 314, by removing the id on the node, and write back to DanB, that it is a
traversal model rather than identity model 
[scribe_yl] sub proposal, 1/ purity in the model by removing ID 
[scribe_yl] 2/ status qui 
[scribe_yl] straw poll 5/0 
[scribe_yl] ACTION: Editors Remove the ID property from the nodes of the data model. 
[scribe_yl] ACTION: Gudge to send email back to xmlp-comments and rdf group to close issue 314 
[scribe_yl] </issue> 
[scribe_yl] <issue number="315"> 
[scribe_yl] proposal, we have tests in test collection, endpoints are available, and there is a community of
people that tokk care of that issue in soap/1.1 ad we expect they will do the same for 1.2. 
[scribe_yl] s/too.*/are actively engaged into testing.../ 
[scribe_yl] 315 is closed with that resolution 
[scribe_yl] ACTION: Yves to send email back to xmlp-comments to close issue 315 with proposed resolution 
[scribe_yl] </issue> 
[scribe_yl] <issue number="316"> 
[scribe_yl] noah, gudge: we are a wire format, we are not defining langage binding 
[scribe_yl] 1/ how do application describe what they send/receive 
[scribe_yl] -> we don't say 
[scribe_yl] 2/ when should I use the encoding? 
[scribe_yl] 3/ clarification questions of graph edges 
[scribe_yl] gudge: it is not necessary that sender/receiver have the same view 
[scribe_yl] 1/ -> they create soap encodings :) 
[scribe_yl] 2/ 
[scribe_yl] DavidF: is there something in the primer about that? 
[scribe_yl] 2/ -> it's not our place to compare/contrast 
[scribe_yl] 3/ -> yes, yes, yes, yes 
[scribe_yl] proposal is to wait for Jacek's issue on generics. need to see if we can still determine what is
a struct and what is an array 
[scribe_yl] <pause> 
[carine] Issues on generics: 297 and 365 (opposite positions ;) ) 
[Zakim] -MarkB? 
[scribe_yl] zakim, f2froom is really f2froom 
[Zakim] +F2froom; got it 
[scribe_yl] </pause> 
[scribe_yl] points 4 and 5 deferred 
[scribe_yl] 5 (how do we know something is a generic) 
[carine] issues about generics : 297 and 365 
[scribe_yl] proposal, is to close 316 by responding to the first 3 question and considering the last 2 parts
about generic as being dupes of 297/365 
[scribe_yl] Proposal... 
[scribe_yl] 1/ it's out of scope for us. 
[scribe_yl] 2/ it's not our job (so out of scope) 
[scribe_yl] 3/ Y,Y,Y,Y 
[scribe_yl] 316 is closed 
[scribe_yl] ACTION: Gudge to send email to xmlp-comments to close issue 316 (see minutes) 
[scribe_yl] </issue> 
[scribe_yl] <issue number="317"> 
[scribe_yl] 1/ xslt/pi -> out of scope (not an use case) 
[scribe_yl] 2/ out of scope and no (as envelope is missing) 
[scribe_yl] 3/ out of scope also 
[scribe_yl] no objection, 317 is then closed 
[scribe_yl] ACTION: Gerd to send email to xmlp-comments to close issue 317 (see minutes) 
[scribe_yl] </issue> 
[scribe_yl] <issue number="318"> 
[scribe_yl] proposal, change the note in 3.1.4 from SOAP to SOAP-Encoding 
[scribe_yl] to clarify the paragraph 
[scribe_yl] proposal for 2/ SOAP processing model have a mechanism such as mU to provide support for what you
describe 
[Zakim] +MarkB 
[scribe_yl] 318 is closed with that resolution 
[scribe_yl] </issue> 
[Noah] Note: we have received a note from Susan Lesch indicating that in the spec, the corporate name Mitre
should be spelled MITRE 
[scribe_yl] ACTION: Editors to make the changes to 3.1.4 per issue 318 resolution (done) 
[scribe_yl] ACTION: MarkJ to send email to xmlp-comments to close issue 318 
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[mnot] Yves? 
[scribe_yl] discussion on Davidf's proposal
(http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-protocol-wg/2002Aug/0000.html) 
[scribe_yl] hi mark 
[scribe_yl] new draft on its way 
[MarkB] hey mnot. are you back on xmlp? 
[scribe_yl] review on proposal for 263 
[scribe_yl] minor changes, will be sent to Martin and xmlp-comments 
[scribe_yl] <issue number="232"> 
[scribe_yl] issue 232 is closed by keeping status quo (mainly for backward compatibility reasons) 
[scribe_yl] ACTION: markJ to send email to xmlp-comments to close issue 232 
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[scribe_yl] <issue number="233"> 
[scribe_yl] </issue></issue><issue number="233"> 
[scribe_yl] (for compliance of the log) 
[Gudge] http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-soap12-part1-20020626/#soaprole 
[scribe_yl] close issue 233 by accepting proposed resolution 
[scribe_yl] ACTION: Editors to remove the sentence per 233 
[scribe_yl] ACTION: Carine to send email to xmlp-comments to close 233 
[scribe_yl] </issue> 
[scribe_yl] <issue number="291"> 
[scribe_yl] proposal : stick it in the Upgrade namespace 
[scribe_yl] anish: for consistency, why have it lowercase? 
[scribe_yl] original reason was to have it different from the main one 
[scribe_yl] proposal to close 291 is uppercase E in Env, and be it part of upgrade namespace 
[scribe_yl] issue close by this proposal 
[scribe_yl] ACTION: Editors, make the proposed change wrt issue 192 resolution 
[scribe_yl] ACTION: DavidF to send email to xmlp-comments to close 291 
[scribe_yl] </issue> 
[scribe_yl] <issue number="307"> 
[scribe_yl] should be amended to say "elephants allowed" 
[scribe_yl] (those who did not attend will have hard time understanding this one) 
[scribe_yl] discussion about handling of comments 
[scribe_yl] wrt to issue 307, we will add in 5.2.1 and 5.3.1 that child elements are allowed 
[scribe_yl] issue 307 closed with that resolution 
[Noah] Possible new issue: should 5.2, 5.2.1 etc. list other properties of element info items such as
[namespace attributes]? 
[scribe_yl] ACTION: Editors: add the proposed change 
[scribe_yl] ACTION 19= Editors: add the proposed change for issue 307 
[scribe_yl] ACTION 19= Editors: add the proposed change for issue 307 per minutes 
[Noah] ACTION 19= Editors: add the proposed change for issue 307 per minutes of Aug 1 Palo Alto FTF 
[Noah] :-) 
[scribe_yl] ACTION: Gudge to research infoset properties of header and body children, and suggest appropriate
changes 
[scribe_yl] ACTION: Gudge Send email to xmlp-comments to close issue 307 (see minutes) 
[scribe_yl] </issue> 
[scribe_yl] <issue number="320"> 
[Gudge] http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-soap12-part1-20020626/#faultcodes 
[scribe_yl] text proposed is a replacement for what's at the URI above 
[scribe_yl] noah: there is an asymetry, code/subcode/subcode/subcode 
[Zakim] -MarkB 
[scribe_yl] noah: change the example to show this (clarification) 
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[scribe_yl] resolution is to mark this as editorial 
[scribe_yl] editors to clarify the relations between code, subcode and details element 
[scribe_yl] shorter than the proposed resolution 
[scribe_yl] ACTION: Editors to clarify the relations between code, subcode and detail element, but at least
1/3 of the size of the proposed solution for issue 320 resolution 
[scribe_yl] <lunch> 
[DavidF2F] adjourn until 1.15p 
[DavidF2F] PDT 
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[scribemjg] =========== Afternoon session =================== 
[scribemjg] Number of items to discuss...AF doc 
[scribemjg] how to deal with issues we won't cover today 
[scribemjg] Chair speaking BTW 
[scribemjg] Approval of minutes from last telcon 
[scribemjg] rechartering discussion 
[scribemjg] so, 4 critical things 
[scribemjg] DavidF posted regarding AF doc 
[scribemjg] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-protocol-wg/2002Jul/0164.html 
[scribemjg] proposal: publish AF doc as WD 
[scribemjg] no objection 
[scribemjg] ACTION: Yves/Herve to publish AF doc as WD 
[scribemjg] Regarding issues we will not close... 
[scribemjg] Proposal: Hand issues marked 'Editorial' over to editors to fix 
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[scribemjg] Editors to use discretion about bringing more substantive issues back to the WG for dicussion 
[scribemjg] s/dicussion/discussion 
[scribemjg] ACTION: Editors to fix all issues marked 'Editorial' in the issues list. Bring more substantive
issues back to the WG. Deal with substantive closed issues first. Keep detailed change log. 
[scribemjg] Mark, you're up 
[scribemjg] ;-) 
[scribe_mj] WG will resume telcons on Sept 3 and continue working through the issue list. 
[scribe_mj] Suggestions for resolving issues are welcome to dist-app. 
[scribe_mj] The bar will be set high for new issues, which will be flagged as 'late'. 
[scribe_mj] There will be a set of 'gate people' who will examine the late issues for criticality. 
[scribe_mj] The minutes for July 24 were approved. 
[scribe_mj] <rechartering> 
[scribe_mj] Possible topics -- concrete attachment std, std appl-independent headers, etc. 
[DavidF2F] headers for example ..... mustHappen, sequencing headers 
[scribe_mj] Other possible topics are things like RDF and I18N vs. SOAP data model reconciliation. 
[scribe_mj] Also, re-thinking the SOAP fault reporting mechanism to make it easier for intermediaries to observe.
[DavidF2F] zakim, who is here? 
[Zakim] On the phone I see F2froom 
[Zakim] On IRC I see scribe_mj, herve, colleen, Noah, anish_ca, carine, RRSAgent, Zakim, Gudge, DavidF2F, Yves,
Loggy, HFN_away 
[scribe_mj] Noah: worried about isolated proposals for new features, might need to coordinate with other
standards groups on new features 
[Noah] Noah also expresses strong feeling that SOAP 1.2 should be a stable spec. We should NOT set out to do a
SOAP 1.3. 
[scribe_mj] ACTION: THe W3C staff to investigate what more is allowed under the existing charter with a temporal
extension (post-Rec). 
[Noah] We should specifically not do a protocol that requires upgrade negotiation across implementations... 
[Noah] ...unless user feedback suggests that 1.2 really needs changing. This is like XML 1.0...it should be
ubiquitiously deployed and should serve us for a long time. 
[scribe_mj] </rechartering> 
[Yves] so it rules out the "we will see that un possible next version" resolution ;) 
[Noah] I do think there is the possibility of creating headers and features, but we should go slow there too. I
think most such features should be based on concrete feedback from users and from other organizations using our
spec. We don't have that yet, I think. 
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[scribe_mj] <resume-issues/> 
[scribe_mj] <issue321> 
[scribe_mj] editorial -- eliminate DTDNotSupported 
[scribe_mj] from the faultcodeEnum in the schema 
[scribe_mj] ACTION: Editors: remove the DTDNotSupported from the schema 
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[DavidF2F] http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/xmlp-lc-issues#x322 
[DavidF2F] dataEncodingUnknown 
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[scribe_mj] ACTION: Colleen: send msg to xmlp-comments saying we will maintain the status quo on the top-level
status of DataEncodingUnknown. Table 23 in part 2 has been fixed. 
[scribe_mj] </issue321> 
[scribe_mj] <issue322> 
[scribe_mj] option 1 -- no change unless we go to a new LC 
[scribe_mj] option 2 -- status quo 
[scribe_mj] option 3 -- change the fault-handling mechanism to fix this and other problems 
[scribe_mj] option 3 -- is actually a minimal change just to 'detail' 
[scribe_mj] option 4 -- 1 and 3 
[scribe_mj] Preponderance want 4. 
[scribe_mj] ACTIO: Editors: Make the change as in the proposal and ensure consistency elsewhere. 
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[scribe_mj] ACTION: Editors: Issue 322 -- Make the change as in the proposal and ensure consistency elsewhere. 
[DavidF2F] ACTION: Gudge to respond to HFN and xmlp-cmment re issue 322 
[scribe_mj] </issue322> 
[DavidF2F] ========= mtg adjourn, return 3.30p pdt =================
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[DavidF2F] =========== mtg restart ============
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[scribe_mj] <issue323> 
[scribe_mj] ACTION: Editors: Issue 323 -- Make the change as in the proposal (the .../none URI) 
[scribe_mj] ACTION: Volker: Respond to xmlp-comment re issue 323 
[scribe_mj] </issue323> 
[scribe_mj] <issue324> 
[scribe_mj] GUdge and Noah: like the way it is 
[scribe_mj] ACTION: DavidF: Respond to xmlp-comment and commentator re issue 324 
[scribe_mj] </issue324> 
[scribe_mj] <issue292> 
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[scribe_mj] ACTION: Noah: Issue 292 -- propose a resolution that the processor may elect to report any fault it
chooses (when multiple faults exist) 
[scribe_mj] </issue292> 
[scribe_mj] <issue303> 
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[scribe_mj] general direction is to create an enc:invalidAttributeValue subcode of env:Sender (in the sense
of doesn't match its schema type) 
[scribe_mj] the second point is to create an enc:ArraySizeMismatch subcode of env:Sender to capture
incompatibilities between (legal) array sizes and the actual array members present 
[scribe_mj] general direction is to create an enc:InvalidAttributeValue subcode of env:Sender (in the sense of
doesn't match its schema type) 
[DavidF2F] http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-soap12-part2-20020626/#soapenc 
[scribe_mj] ACTION: Noah: Send XML Schema a note to clarify whether the validity rules for the IDREF data type
require match of an ID. 
[scribe_mj] ACTION: XMLP WG: Restart the discussion of issue 303 regarding more encoding faults in section 3.2,
part 2. 
[scribe_mj] </issue303> 
[DavidF2F] http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/xmlp-lc-issues#x234 
[scribe_mj] <issue234> 
[Yves] zakim, excuse us 
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[scribe_mj] <adjourn/> 

======== SUMMARY OF DAY'S ACTION ITEMS ================
[RRSAgent] I see 35 open action items: 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Editors to make the changes per Herve's email wrt 339 [1] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T16-12-36 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Herve to send email to xmlp-comments and commentator about closing issue 339 [2] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T16-13-09 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Editors to add a line to table 23 per issue 340 [3] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T16-15-42 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Herve to send email to xmlp-comments and commentator about closing issue 340 [4] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T16-15-46 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Herve to take "editorial note" on table 17 (7.5.1.2) and come up with a proposal on
dist-app [5] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T16-21-16 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Herve to take "editorial note" on properties that are URIs and come up witha proposal
on dist-app [6] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T16-23-11-1 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Editors Remove the ID property from the nodes of the data model. [7] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T17-08-20 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Gudge to send email back to xmlp-comments and rdf group to close issue 314 [8] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T17-09-21 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Yves to send email back to xmlp-comments to close issue 315 with proposed resolution [9] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T17-15-43 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Gudge to send email to xmlp-comments to close issue 316 (see minutes) [10] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T18-19-27 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Gerd to send email to xmlp-comments to close issue 317 (see minutes) [11] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T18-25-55 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Editors to make the changes to 3.1.4 per issue 318 resolution (done) [12] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T18-35-13 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: MarkJ to send email to xmlp-comments to close issue 318 [13] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T18-35-26 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: markJ to send email to xmlp-comments to close issue 232 [14] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T18-51-49 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Editors to remove the sentence per 233 [15] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T18-55-28 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Carine to send email to xmlp-comments to close 233 [16] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T18-55-38 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Editors, make the proposed change wrt issue 192 resolution [17] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T19-00-15 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: DavidF to send email to xmlp-comments to close 291 [18] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T19-01-31 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Editors: add the proposed change for issue 307 per minutes of Aug 1 Palo Alto FTF [19] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T19-16-25 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Gudge to research infoset properties of header and body children, and suggest appropriate
changes [20] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T19-21-18 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Gudge Send email to xmlp-comments to close issue 307 (see minutes) [21] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T19-22-19 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Editors to clarify the relations between code, subcode and detail element, but at least 1/3
of the size of the proposed solution for issue 320 resolution [22] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T19-31-10 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Yves/Herve to publish AF doc as WD [23] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T20-25-56 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Editors to fix all issues marked 'Editorial' in the issues list. Bring more substantive
issues back to the WG. Deal with substantive closed issues first. Keep detailed change log. [24] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T20-31-50 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: THe W3C staff to investigate what more is allowed under the existing charter with a temporal
extension (post-Rec). [25] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T21-10-44 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Editors: remove the DTDNotSupported from the schema [26] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T21-25-07 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Colleen: send msg to xmlp-comments saying we will maintain the status quo on the top-level
status of DataEncodingUnknown. Table 23 in part 2 has been fixed. [27] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T21-27-07 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Editors: Issue 322 -- Make the change as in the proposal and ensure consistency elsewhere.
[28] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T22-03-44 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Gudge to respond to HFN and xmlp-cmment re issue 322 [29] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T22-04-01 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Editors: Issue 323 -- Make the change as in the proposal (the .../none URI) [30] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T22-45-49 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Volker: Respond to xmlp-comment re issue 323 [31] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T22-46-31 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: DavidF: Respond to xmlp-comment and commentator re issue 324 [32] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T22-49-29 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Noah: Issue 292 -- propose a resolution that the processor may elect to report any fault it
chooses (when multiple faults exist) [33] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T22-58-46 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: ACTION: Noah: Send XML Schema a note to clarify whether the validity rules for the IDREF data
type require match of an ID. (ALREADY DISCHARGED - Noah found the answer in Schema Part 1. IDREFs are validity
checked.) [34] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T23-45-32 
[RRSAgent] ACTION: XMLP WG: Restart the discussion of issue 303 regarding more encoding faults in section 3.2,
part 2. [35] 
[RRSAgent] recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/08/01-xmlprotocol-irc#T23-46-36