Minutes of Encoding Task Force, 19 November 2001.

Present

• Paul Cotton
• Marc Hadley
• Jacek Kopecky
• David Fallside

1. Updated list of action items:
   • PC will propose changes to spec and primer to resolve ed issue #17, deadline CoB 30 Nov 2001
   • MH will check Asir's sparse array email and reconcile its suggested actions with existing issues
   • JK to post proposed resolution for issue 171, resolution based on [1] and "ignore except for href, enc:position, xml:base"
   • DF to ensure proposal for 171 goes on f2f agenda
   • MH to propose resolution for ed issue #47, deadline CoB 30 Nov 2001
   • MH to propose resolution for ed issue #162, deadline CoB 30 Nov 2001
   • PC to propose resolution for ed issue #55, deadline CoB 30 Nov 2001
   • JK to propose resolution for ed issue #117, deadline CoB 30 Nov 2001
   • JK to propose resolution for ed issue #129, deadline CoB 30 Nov 2001
   • MH to follow up with Martin Gudgin re issue 97
   • JK to formulate resolution text for 144 of the form "the semantics of the untransmitted portions of arrays are defined by the sending and receiving applications", and indicate how this text also resolves issue #161
   • DF to ensure proposals for 144 and 161 go on f2f agenda
   • JK to formulate resolution to 159 and 166 of the form "encodingStyles
     --> encodingStyle, i.e. a single URI", and to provide rationale based on summary of extensive dist-app thread.
   • DF to ensure proposals for 159 and 166 go on f2f agenda
   • All, meet at f2f and decide when to hold next ETF meeting (possibly at f2f)
2. Discussion of remaining issues assigned to ETF. DF noted that f2f agenda contains summary of remaining issues, and proposed assigning (without further discussion) the editorial issues to the ETF participants. ETF agreed and these issues are now all assigned. By the end of the telcon, the only remaining issues that the ETF had not touched are: 163, 164, 167, 168.
3. Discussion of 171. ETF largely agreed with Jacek's proposal, some concern whether excluded attribute types should be prohibited, i.e. raise errors, or ignored. Decided on the latter for better backward compatibility. See action item.
4. Discussion of Jacek's proposed resolution of issue #144. Noted that discussion on how much SOAP encoding defines ultimately becomes a "black hole" because it impinges on application defined semantics. Such "black-hole" discussions have led some to opine that sparese arrays should be omitted altogether. PC suggested the compromise that is embodied in the action item, above.
5. Discussion on 159 and 166. The proposal being embodied in the action item, above, is a generally agreed upon resolution stemming from extensive dist-app discussions.
6. Discussion on 97. ETF members recalled that the XMLP WG had dealt with this issue previously but during the telcon could not find records of this discussion. See action item, above.
7. Next ETF meeting. Decided to discuss (and possibly hold) this at the f2f.