HCLSIG/SWANSIOC/Meetings/2009-08-14 Conference Call

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Conference Details

  • Date of Call: Friday August 14, 2009
  • Time of Call: 11:00am Eastern Time
  • Dial-In #: +1.617.761.6200 (Cambridge, MA)
  • Dial-In #: +33.4.89.06.34.99 (Nice, France)
  • Dial-In #: +44.117.370.6152 (Bristol, UK)
  • Participant Access Code: 4257 ("HCLS")
  • IRC Channel: irc.w3.org port 6665 channel #HCLS (see W3C IRC page for details, or see Web IRC)
  • Duration: ~1 hour
  • Convener: Tim Clark
  • Scribe: TBD

Agenda

  • Wrap up discussion & work on the SWAN & SIOC IG Notes.
  [1] SWAN
  [2] SIOC
  [3] SWANSIOC Mapping
  • AOB

Minutes

<Susie> Attendees: Tim, Joanne, Scott, Paolo, Susie, Tudor, David, Alex, Holger

<Susie> Agenda: Discuss IG Notes

<Susie> Been working on 3 notes

<Susie> 1 on SIOC

<Susie> 1 on SWAN

<Susie> 1 on mapping SWAN to SIOC

<Susie> SIOC note

<AlexPassant> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/hcls/notes/sioc/

<Susie> Note provides updates on SIOC

<Susie> It also provides HCLS use cases

<Susie> Incorporated comments

<Susie> Need to add a conclusion

<Susie> Then ready to submit

<Susie> Positive feedback from Tim, Scott & Susie on the note

<Susie> Scott: Maybe try to have closer tie to HCLS

<Susie> Scott: Make it easier for HCLS folks to see relevance of SIOC to them

<Susie> Scott: Looking for links to the swan document

<Susie> Tim: It's in section 1.2

<Susie> Scott: Expected stronger reference to scientific discourse

<Susie> Tim: Think you have a good point about an additional use case

<Susie> Tim: Want to use this in next release of SCF

<Susie> Tim: Want to use SIOC & SIOC Export

<Susie> Susie: Maybe could also connect classic paper communication, with the move to the addition of knowledge from wikis and blogs

<Susie> Alex: Can add more on HCLS

<Susie> Scott: The note will be a proof point for a project at my new job

<Susie> Susie: Should be generous in the acknowledgement section

<Susie> Susie: Should include all call participants

<Susie> Susie: And acknowledge the task and HCLS

<Susie> SWAN Note

<Susie> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/hcls/notes/swan/

<Susie> Paolo: It's tricky to write as swan is constantly evolving

<Susie> Paolo: Maybe should add more on connections to other work

<Susie> Paolo: Examples could include Science Commons, and NeuroLex, etc.

<Susie> Tim: A weakness is self containment

<Susie> Tim: Have referenced the web sites, but maybe should make the link a purl

<Susie> Paolo: Have actually begun to make some purls

<Susie> Tim: There could be another note going forwards that includes more of the ecosystem

<Susie> Tim: So lets draw the line with this one

<Susie> Scott: Should add science commons into the acknowledgements

<Susie> Scott: OWL DL is prominently mentioned in the document, but not SKOS even though you use it

<Susie> Scott: Would it therefore make sense to include a SKOS example

<Susie> Paolo: This is an area where a lot of evolution is going on

<Susie> Paolo: Could include a section on SKOS

<Susie> Scott: Would be especially interested in lessons learnt

<Susie> Tim: Being compatible with SKOS qualifiers doesn't need to be taken out of the model

<Susie> Tim: The issue is that there is an ontology that is in evolution

<Susie> Tim: Want to include terms in characterising things, but haven't fully modelled them

<Susie> Tim: Want to move terms from a loose model to a tighter more OBO like model over time without changing the URI

<Susie> Tim: Legacy use case is different from what the terminology task is working on

<Susie> Scott: This might be interesting to Andrew Gibson

<Susie> Scott: He's also very interested in SWAN

<Susie> SWAN SIOC Ontology Mappings

<AlexPassant> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/hcls/notes/swansioc/

<Susie> Alex: Note focuses on mappings

<Susie> Alex: Still need to add a use case

<Susie> Alex: Could extend one from the SIOC note

<Susie> Alex: Using SWAN SIOC it is possible to understand relations (e.g. agree vs diisagree)

<Susie> Tim: Nice, succinct note

<Susie> Alex: Still need to update the OWL file a little

<Susie> Alex: Need to work on URIs

<Susie> Tim: How much time to get the final version out?

<Susie> Paolo: Need 2 weeks - August 28

<Susie> Tim: How about final version up by August 26

<AlexPassant> I'll need to update the SIOC note for conclusion and add use-case in the SWAN/SIOC one

<Susie> Susie: Feedback incorporated by August 26

<Susie> Susie: Final discussion on August 28

<Susie> Susie: Ask HCLS for feedback on Sept. 1

<Susie> Susie: deadline for HCLS feedback by Sept. 14

<Susie> Susie: Second review if lots of feedback, but I wouldn't expect that to be necessary

<Susie> Tim: Once done, there are lots of other exciting opportunities that we can persue

<Susie> Scott: There's actually a tie in to the HCLS KB, so could mention it in the notes

<Susie> Tim: Want all HCLS work to tie in together in some way

<Susie> Tim: Think existing notes make a nice unit of work

<Susie> Tim: On August 28, let's discuss incorporation of the KB in future work

<Susie> Tim: Kudos to the group! :-)

<Susie> Tim: Will put up agenda for August 28.

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