Re: Naming EDVs for all (Was: Re: [MINUTES] W3C Credentials CG Call - 2020-01-21 12pm ET

On 2020-01-31 8:16 am, Adrian Gropper wrote:
> IndiaStack uses Digilocker. It’s in the context of other 
> identity-linked services.
> https://www.indiastack.org

Interesting. And I think the simplest description of what is being 
stored is "bits", so perhaps:
Bit Locker
or
Bit Safe
Bit Box

I'm unsure about 1 vs. two words. A single word would be nice, but 
there are at least two concepts needed, possibly three: portable safe 
data. Getting that in one word might be tricky unless it's camel case. 
   :-)
SafeDataBox
BitLockBox
BitBox
BitSafe

But camel case won't fly for the general public I think, and anyway 
it's easy to forget the capital or miss it in a transcription.

Steven

> 
> I have tried to steer them in the direction of standards, so far 
> without much success.
> 
> Adrian
> 
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:08 AM Steven Rowat 
> <steven_rowat@sunshine.net <mailto:steven_rowat@sunshine.net>> wrote:
> 
>     Hello,
>     In the discussion of the Jan 21 CCG call, the section quoted at
>     the end of this email shows to me that there's a general name
>     discussion required around EDVs (Encrypted Data Vaults). "Wallet"
>     is rejected because it has other uses. There's no consensus yet.
> 
>     I believe this is like what happened around "Digital Identifiers",
>     where the whole CCG list got involved, because, as Dave Longley
>     notes at the end of the quote, the naming needs to satisfy the
>     general public as well as developers and codewriters.
> 
>     And I began to think up some possibilities for "safe storage" that
>     already exist in the physical world, perhaps to get the ball
>     rolling in such a discussion. These are:
> 
>     Safe     [banks, homes]
>     Safe Drop   [couriers]
>     Safety Deposit Box    [banks]
>     Deposit Box  [banks, post office]
>     Lockbox   [real estate, travel]
>     Storage    [rental lockers, computer storage]
>     Strongbox   [rental lockers, banks, homes]
>     Secure Sockets   [HTTPS, SSL]
>     Trunk   [travel luggage]
>     Suitcase   [travel luggage]
>     Container    [shipping trade]
> 
>     I believe both "safe" and "mobile" need to be implied, and I'm
>     unsure whether the word "data" is best used or not. So at this
>     point my own preferences would be combinations like:
>     Data Lockbox
>     Safe Box
>     Data Safe
> 
>     etc.
> 
>     Other opinions?
> 
> 
>     On 2020-01-29 8:19 pm, W3C CCG Chairs wrote:
>      > Manu Sporny: ...We, as an organization, want
>      >    to focus on portability, CHAPI, moving wallets, etc. simpler use
>      >    cases. [scribe assist by Dave Longley]
>      > Joe Andrieu:  I put myself on the queue - to push back on
>      >    language around wallet vs. vault that Manu used. Naming is hard,
>      >    attempting to be constructive.
>      > Orie Steele: "Wallet" is a terrible name :( ... names are hard...
>      > Drummond Reed: The DIF Glossary Project is drilling deep into
>      >    community definitions of "wallet", "agent", and "credential".
>      >    It's amazing how diverse some of the responses are.
>      > Joe Andrieu:  ChristopherA and I wrote a topic for the last
>      >    rebooting - spoke about how "Identity Wallets" and "Crypto
>      >    Wallets" have similarities, trying to find similarities
>      >    architecturally. Crypto wallets are not in your hardware
>      >    wallet... a wallet is how you control access to your stuff, not
>      >    the actual store that has it. A good crypto wallet could have
>      >    Bitcoin, Ethereum, AltCoins, but the way that tech works is that
>      >    the important stuff is not in the wallets.
>      > Adrian Gropper: +1 To Joe's and Drummond's comments on "wallet"
>      > Stephen Curran: "Wallet" in mainstream usage is the app you have
>      >    on your phone. It's not the bit of the any "thingy" (agent,
>      >    whatever) that stores things. Using that term is fighting a
>      >    losing battle.
>      > Joe Andrieu:  The interfaces that we use to get access to stores
>      >    vs the stores themselves are important. We also need a good
>      >    separation between those so we can move EDVs around w/o changing
>      >    front-end wallet.
>      > Dave Longley: There's probably also a naming issue here where the
>      >    general public will understand "wallet" as all of the
>     layers, but
>      >    developers/technologists should understand there are more layers
> 
> 
>     Steven Rowat
>

Received on Friday, 31 January 2020 16:39:38 UTC