- From: Yves Lafon <ylafon@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 09:48:59 -0400 (EDT)
- To: www-tag@w3.org
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http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/08/19-minutes.html
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
Technical Architecture Group Teleconference
19 Aug 2010
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Aug/0024.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2010/08/19-tagmem-irc
Attendees
Present
Henry Thompson, Noah Mendelsohn, Ashok Malhotra, Jonathan
Rees, Yves Lafon, John Kemp
Regrets
Chair
Noah Mendelsohn
Scribe
Yves
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Agenda
2. [6]Minutes approval
3. [7]Administrative
4. [8]Dev Feedback Camp
5. [9]HttpRedirections-57
6. [10]rdfURIMeaning-39-27 Generic Fragment ID Processing
7. [11]Overdue Actions Items
* [12]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 19 August 2010
<Ashok> Regrets for the next 2 Thursdays -- travel/vacation
Agenda
next meeting on the 26th
scribe will be ht
Minutes approval
minutes of [13]Aug 12 are approved
[13] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/08/12-minutes
Administrative
TAG status report published to the world
Dev Feedback Camp
Noah: From DanA; On developer camp, no new information, other than
that I have not had a lot of luck finding a venue.
HttpRedirections-57
<noah>
[14]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Aug/0014.html
[14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Aug/0014.html
Yves: would be good to wait for timbl and Larry to further discuss
this issue
rdfURIMeaning-39-27 Generic Fragment ID Processing
yves: xhtml+xml is compatible with generic processing
yves: svg+xml has no conflict with xpointer generic processing, it
defines a function with a syntax compatible with xpointer
noah: is xhtml forbidding xpointer?
yves: no, xhmtl is just defining id, and how they are used in frags
<Zakim> ht, you wanted to say that sounds good
ht: in the xhtml case, in practise, it is fine as bare names is what
you will find
<noah> I'd like to scribe that more carefully: I (Henry) >think<
(but need to check) that the minimum conformance requirement for the
XPointer framework is barenames
<noah> From 3023bis:
<noah> A family of specifications define fragment identifiers for
XML media types. A modular syntax and semantics of fragment
identifiers for the XML media types is as defined by the
[XPointerFramework] (Grosso, P., Maler, E., Marsh, J., and N. Walsh,
XPointer Framework, March 2003.) W3C Recommendation. It allows
simple names, and more complex constructions based on named schemes.
The syntax of a fragment identifier part of any URI or IRI with a
retrieved media t
<noah> Conformant applications MUST interpret such fragment
identifiers as designating that part of the retrieved representation
specified by [XPointerFramework] (Grosso, P., Maler, E., Marsh, J.,
and N. Walsh, XPointer Framework, March 2003.) and whatever other
specifications define any XPointer schemes
<noah> Conformant applications MUST support the 'element' scheme as
defined in [XPointerElement] (Grosso, P., Maler, E., Marsh, J., and
N. Walsh, XPointer element() Scheme, March 2003.).
noah: before we interpret the fragment, we need to ensure that the
fragment is conformant to the expected syntax
ht: SVG allows bare names as well?
Yves: yes
ht: as long as you have a xpointer implementation implementing
barenames you are safe
rfc2023bis is not saying that generic processing must support all
xpointer schemes
noah: ok to close 450?
<noah> ACTION-449?
<trackbot> ACTION-449 -- Noah Mendelsohn to schedule discussion of
pushback on generic handling of fragment IDs in application/xxx+xml
media types (self-assigned) -- due 2010-09-07 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [15]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/449
[15] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/449
Yves: yes, we still have to investigate on the RDF case
<jar> +1 close action-450
<noah> close ACTION-450
<trackbot> ACTION-450 Investigate generic processing of svg+xml and
XHTML+xml closed
Overdue Actions Items
Goal is to start working on text during september teleconferences
<noah> action-404 due 2010-09-15
<trackbot> ACTION-404 Track HTML WG ISSUE-27 rel-ownership due date
now 2010-09-15
<noah> ACTION-341?
<trackbot> ACTION-341 -- Yves Lafon to follow up with Thomas about
security review activities for HTML5 -- due 2010-06-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [16]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/341
[16] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/341
<noah> YL: I started talking to TLR. They are waiting for HASMAT to
start. Will ping him when he's available.
<noah> ACTION-341 due 2010-09-01
<trackbot> ACTION-341 Follow up with Thomas about security review
activities for HTML5 due date now 2010-09-01
<noah> ACTION-456?
<trackbot> ACTION-456 -- Yves Lafon to locate past HTTP WG
discussion on Location: A#B change, and make the TAG aware of it --
due 2010-08-17 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/456
[17] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/456
<noah> ACTION-456 pending review
<noah> ACTION-447?
<trackbot> ACTION-447 -- Yves Lafon to coordinate TAG positions on
media type related work with IETF, and to represent TAG at IETF
meetings in Mastricht Due: 2010-07-20 -- due 2010-07-20 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [18]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/447
[18] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/447
<noah> YL: Maastricht has passed, and the pertinent meeting didn't
line up with my travel.
<noah> NM: Any followup needed?
<noah> YL: There's the 3023bis discussion, and also fragment
recombination
<noah> NM: Has to do with redirection?
<noah> YL: Yes. It's possible we would ask for a change in the mime
registration template.
<noah> YL: Nothing for the TAG to track right now, but we should
have an action to keep in touch with IETF on mime types in general.
Should be different action.
<noah> close ACTION-447
<trackbot> ACTION-447 Coordinate TAG positions on media type related
work with IETF, and to represent TAG at IETF meetings in Mastricht
Due: 2010-07-20 closed
<noah> YL: There's also Larry's document on MIME on the Web
<noah> ACTION: Noah to schedule discussion of followup actions for
TAG to coordinate with IETF on MIME-type related activities
[recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2010/08/19-tagmem-minutes.html#action01]
[19] http://www.w3.org/2010/08/19-tagmem-minutes.html#action01
<trackbot> Created ACTION-458 - Schedule discussion of followup
actions for TAG to coordinate with IETF on MIME-type related
activities [on Noah Mendelsohn - due 2010-08-26].
<noah> ACTION-458 due 2010-09-07
<trackbot> ACTION-458 Schedule discussion of followup actions for
TAG to coordinate with IETF on MIME-type related activities due date
now 2010-09-07
<noah> ACTION-430?
<trackbot> ACTION-430 -- Ashok Malhotra to propose a plan for his
contributions to section 5: Client-side state -- due 2010-06-15 --
OPEN
<trackbot> [20]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/430
[20] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/430
<noah> ACTION-442?
<trackbot> ACTION-442 -- Ashok Malhotra to trya nd integrate NM and
TVRs words into a coherent draft -- due 2010-06-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/442
[21] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/442
Ashok: need to incorporate comments
<noah> NM: What you wrote was on 442, what we need is client side
state like cookies, sql stores, etc.
<noah> NM: Would really like to have substantive drafts in Sept, for
discussion at Oct. F2f
Ashok: got bullet points, like a TOC. I will send them out, if we
can cooperate, that would be terrific
<noah> ACTION-430 due 2010-09-09
<trackbot> ACTION-430 Propose a plan for his contributions to
section 5: Client-side state due date now 2010-09-09
<noah> ACTION-442?
<trackbot> ACTION-442 -- Ashok Malhotra to trya nd integrate NM and
TVRs words into a coherent draft -- due 2010-06-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [22]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/442
[22] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/442
<noah> AM: I'll take Noah's comments and send out
<noah> ACTION-442 due 2010-09-09
<trackbot> ACTION-442 Trya nd integrate NM and TVRs words into a
coherent draft due date now 2010-09-09
<noah> ACTION-438?
<trackbot> ACTION-438 -- Ashok Malhotra to comment to web storage
guys: basically all of this is origin-based, but section 6.1 has a
'may' -- is this a door being held open for CORS? -- due 2010-06-15
-- OPEN
<trackbot> [23]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/438
[23] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/438
<noah> AM: I sent it out, got some notes back saying "spec is what
it is"
Ashok: did it, got some notes back.
<noah> close ACTION-438
<trackbot> ACTION-438 Comment to web storage guys: basically all of
this is origin-based, but section 6.1 has a 'may' -- is this a door
being held open for CORS? closed
<noah> ACTION-379?
<trackbot> ACTION-379 -- Noah Mendelsohn to check whether HTML
language reference has been published -- due 2010-08-17 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [24]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/379
[24] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/379
ACTION-455?
<trackbot> ACTION-455 -- Noah Mendelsohn to schedule discussion on
privacy workshop outcomes. -- due 2010-08-17 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [25]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/455
[25] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/455
<noah> action-455 due 2010-08-30
<trackbot> ACTION-455 Schedule discussion on privacy workshop
outcomes. due date now 2010-08-30
waiting for DanA
<noah> ACTION-381?
<trackbot> ACTION-381 -- Jonathan Rees to spend 2 hours helping Ian
with [26]http://www.w3.org/standards/webarch/ -- due 2010-09-14 --
OPEN
[26] http://www.w3.org/standards/webarch/
<trackbot> [27]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/381
[27] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/381
<noah> ACTION-33?
<trackbot> ACTION-33 -- Henry S. Thompson to revise naming
challenges story in response to Dec 2008 F2F discussion -- due
2010-07-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [28]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/33
[28] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/33
Henry: will work on actions this week
<Zakim> jar, you wanted to discuss action 322
<jar> action-322?
<trackbot> ACTION-322 -- Dan Connolly to brief Science Commons
counsel re forbidding hyperlinking -- due 2010-06-09 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [29]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/322
[29] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/322
we have to talk to the science common counsel before september.
<noah> ACTION-322?
<trackbot> ACTION-322 -- Dan Connolly to brief Science Commons
counsel re forbidding hyperlinking -- due 2010-06-09 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [30]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/322
[30] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/322
<noah> ACTION-322?
<trackbot> ACTION-322 -- Jonathan Rees to brief Science Commons
counsel re forbidding hyperlinking -- due 2010-08-20 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [31]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/322
[31] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/322
<noah> ACTION-335?
<trackbot> ACTION-335 -- Dan Connolly to remind us about data-* when
progress on distributed extensibility next becomes available -- due
2010-06-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [32]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/335
[32] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/335
jar: 335 should be folded into the new HTML/XML integration issue
<noah> close ACTION-335
<trackbot> ACTION-335 Remind us about data-* when progress on
distributed extensibility next becomes available closed
<jar> data-* is being taken up by html wg, yes? as one of the 5
proposals?
<noah> ACTION-436?
<trackbot> ACTION-436 -- Dan Connolly to bring "Schemas for XHTML"
inquiry to the attention of Michael Smith, HTML Activity Lead -- due
2010-06-08 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [33]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/436
[33] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/436
<noah>
[34]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Jun/0038.html
[34] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Jun/0038.html
<noah> Mike Smith answered:
<noah> Murata-san,
<noah> Perhaps this is something you and I could meet face-to-face
to
<noah> discuss
<noah> --Mike
<noah> Shane McCarron wrote:
<noah> Actually, the XHTML 2 Working Group already has this on our
list of
<noah> things to complete during our winding up. PLH has authorized
<noah> publication of M12N and the related RNG specs for the XHTML
family
<noah> markup languages as far as I know. We have the work mostly
completed.
<noah> close ACTION-436
<trackbot> ACTION-436 Bring "Schemas for XHTML" inquiry to the
attention of Michael Smith, HTML Activity Lead closed
any AOB?
noah: needs a heads up from jar is the science common counsel can
participate in next call
ADJOURNED
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Noah to schedule discussion of followup actions for
TAG to coordinate with IETF on MIME-type related activities
[recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2010/08/19-tagmem-minutes.html#action01]
[35] http://www.w3.org/2010/08/19-tagmem-minutes.html#action01
[End of minutes]
--
Baroula que barouleras, au tiéu toujou t'entourneras.
~~Yves
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