Re: PROV-ISSUE-192: Section 5.3.2.1 (PROV-DM as on Nov 28) [prov-dm]

Hi Satya,
It's now closed.
Luc

On 02/14/2012 10:28 PM, Satya Sahoo wrote:
> Hi Luc,
> The updated description in DM-TPWD helps clear the issue. I am fine 
> with closing this issue.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best,
> Satya
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:57 AM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk 
> <mailto:L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Satya,
>
>     I don't understand your comment. We use 'for example', 'may,'
>     'could' ... to describe
>     a hypothetical scenario/application. The only generalization is
>     that we *may* want to
>     express a notion of responsibility.
>
>     Can you clarify?
>
>     Luc
>
>     On 12/07/2011 02:06 AM, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
>
>         PROV-ISSUE-192: Section 5.3.2.1 (PROV-DM as on Nov 28) [prov-dm]
>
>         http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/192
>
>         Raised by: Satya Sahoo
>         On product: prov-dm
>
>         Hi,
>         The following are my comments for Section 5.3.2.1 of the
>         PROV-DM (as on Nov 28):
>
>         Section 5.3.2.1
>         1. "For example, a programmer and a researcher could both be
>         associated with running a workflow, but it may not matter what
>         programmer clicked the button to start the workflow while it
>         would matter a lot what researcher told the programmer to do
>         so. Another example: a student publishing a web page
>         describing an academic department could result in both the
>         student and the department being agents associated with the
>         activity, and it may not matter what student published a web
>         page but it matters a lot that the department told the student
>         to put up the web page. So there is some notion of
>         responsibility that needs to be captured."
>
>         Comment: There is no reason to assign more importance to
>         researcher or department versus the programmer or student -
>         these are purely application-specific interpretations and
>         cannot be generalized. A simple counter-example is, "there was
>         error on the Web page", which student is responsible for
>         adding content to the Web page.
>
>         Thanks.
>
>         Best,
>         Satya
>
>
>
>
>
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University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
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