Re: [Bug 10838] New: Make <u> conforming.

>>> 嗉窈銝銝嚗啣冽寧泵瑞冽盍uby嚗
>> 雿胯摮璅閮駁單嚗
>> 舀禿uby怠頝詨嚗
> 
> 芣舐嗆喳郢uby韐韐蝚血瘀摰銋賭賣銋血瘀銝餈憟質情瘝⊥菜臬啜
寞餅嚗芣臭仿蝚虫蝚血 ruby 冽圈嚗銋喲嚗銝憟 CSS 賣啁撅祆扼asian-text-decorative-punctuation銋憿嚗澆舫隡 content 憛怠乩遙雿摮蝚西憒銝嚗

b.pn:lang(zh),
pn:lang(zh) {
 asian-text-decorative-punctuation: "嚗" bottom;
 /* 撠 */
}


em:lang(zh) {
 asian-text-decorative-punctuation: "" bottom;
 /* 舀交嚗銵函內  */
}


cite:lang(zh-tw) {
 asian-text-decorative-punctuation: "儮" bottom;
 /* 啁詨脣  */
}

decorative punctuation 胯鋆憌橘摮嚗璅暺嚗隞銵冽航摮其韏瑯芸楛函銝摮璅暺

鈭亙啣飛∪撐鞎澆砍嚗鋆⊿Ｗ之典啜啁脤冽舀圈蝚西嚗雿臭誑其鈭撠隤芯葉閬啜蝬剖箇曄隤芣 [1]嚗憭折貉擐皜臬典飛⊥摮訾葉舀冽嚗銝敺雿撠撖阡瘜雿鈭閫嚗Ｙ镼踵擃典喟絞銝剜鋆∪嗾銋銝曇堆銋瘝芸振銝剜摮擃砍豢閮剛擃嚗憭折賣舐閬賢典質賣擃嚗銝撖衣其憭嚗銋蝢閫憿<em> 銝剜閮剜見撘閬箏銋敺閬閮隢嚗銝舐湔亦扯镼踵韏啜


> 渡桐誑銝嚗憭批振閫敺蝵銝雿輻函航賣找憭嚗餈臭髡瑚蝙函弦蝡餈航器蝻case嚗

箏暻餌抬冽舐嗥嗅鈭雿蝘訾舫璅蝺典神嚗閮勗甇撘訾典啜蝬脤支銝祉閬賢嚗銋敺憭抒璈霈蝘詻舀迤撘獢閮隢桃銝撠望航皜撠憿撌株嚗:-P

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 Oct 1, 2010 12:31 AM 嚗 Zi Bin Cheah 撖怠堆

> 
> On Sep 30, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Yuan Chao wrote:
> 
>> 2010/9/30 Ethan Chen <chief@ethantw.net>
>> 
>> 敺銝航賊啣拙摨銝撠銝賊嚗雿瘜暺憿嚗憟賜孵憒銝嚗摮瘝隞颱嚗摨蝺餅嚗
>> 
>> 撘萄 Yahoo 瘜券唾撓交璅閰踝嫣噶詨函閬箏閰脫舐閬賢典祕雿 underline 憿嚗Yahoo 敺箔閬賢其閰脣敺箔臭舀交皞航賢ｇ
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> 
> 蝘航賣
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> 1 <b>
> Ethan<b>瘥<mark>游嚗銝榦ark撣行撘箄雿
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> 2唳蝑
> 憭批振臬衣仿仿拚颲寞瘝⊥餈瑞霂瑟嚗
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> 渡桐誑銝嚗憭批振閫敺蝵銝雿輻函航賣找憭嚗餈臭髡瑚蝙函弦蝡餈航器蝻case嚗
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> 
>> 暺敺蝢抬璅撠桃嚗撠望航撟怠拙颲典閰瑁其遢望word舫蝛箇賡嚗
>> 瞍Ｗ撠勗蝬撽頝璅暺蝚西鈭閬舀澧SS靘嚗臭誑憓摮頝孵嚗
>> 銋閬箏舀閰脰交皞嗡葉
>> 
>> 隞亙虫閮隢銝脖葉嚗輻征賭望嚗嗅祕臭誑镼踵蝬凋嚗
>> (鈭箔臬憟賜桀颲血砍恕頠擃瘜)
>> 
>>> 嗉窈銝銝嚗啣冽寧泵瑞冽盍uby嚗
>> 雿胯摮璅閮駁單嚗
>> 舀禿uby怠頝詨嚗
> 
> 芣舐嗆喳郢uby韐韐蝚血瘀摰銋賭賣銋血瘀銝餈憟質情瘝⊥菜臬啜
> 
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>> 
>> 
>>  Sep 30, 2010 6:26 PM 嚗 Zi Bin Cheah 撖怠堆
>> 
>>> 銝瑕典之撽祉舀瓷鈭箇剁憭折颲孵霂乩撠具航賣葛唳蝘銋行剁萇爾銋衣銵銋航賭典其蝙函
>>> 
>>> Ian蝏<u>霂凋亦其瑕嗅砌犖閫敺臬笆霂單喟啣典之摰嗉摮銝<U>撠望喳酌nderline, 唳脫憭橘銝憭批振賭蝏抒賒皛亦具
>>> 
>>> 敶嗉瘝⊥閫喃瑞瘙喳啁銝銝芣寞舐皂ark嗅每SS褚nderline摰銝敺餈銝芣寞摰嚗
>>> 
>>> 嗉窈銝銝嚗啣冽寧泵瑞冽盍uby嚗
>>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2010, at 1:46 AM, KangHao Lu (Kenny) wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 隤芣銝銝蝞臬銋撠閮隢[1]嚗蝮賭撠望臬HTML5璅皞貉喳銝<u>曉具銝璅皞璅蝐扎[2] 喳曉具撠鋡急璉雿臬璅皞[3]敺望瘝券萎辣蝢斤敺啣梯嚗雿臬10/1憪望皞航炊蝔脣乩銝畾菜隞交喳撣霅圈券鋡急踹箔閮隢銝銝桀瘜
>>>> 
>>>> - 銝唳蝐歹<pn>銋憿嚗敺銝航
>>>> - <a><a href>嚗撅祆扳潘臭蝔格翰
>>>> - <span class="pn"> 舀暺憭芷瑚
>>>> - Mike頝雓隤<i>銝靘敺憭批臬箄正寞冽擃璅孵嚗蝮賭賜潭銝<ship>扼隞<u>舀頛撖血函嚗銝銋銝撠鈭箸舀<u>踹靘
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>>>> 
>>>> 蝮賭霅圈瘜賣CC圈銵典佗憒獢鋡怠蝯鈭憭批振銋憭憭剛圾HTML5蝺刻摩Ian Hickson舀暻澆鈭扼霅圈梯ㄐ銋唬銋閮隢嚗銝撟游鈭嚗嚗鈭箔暻<u>銝閬鈭雿<b><i>靘鈭嚗銝餉撠望<u>頝頞蝯瘛瑚憿嚗銝賣隞暻潔犖啣隞仿甈∪停靘踵鈭銝佗
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>>>> 甇∟憭批振沈TML5 Bug TrackerCC圈靘
>>>> 
>>>> 蝛箏憭隞蝝嫣鈭HTML5鈭箏改浮ug鋆⊥啁AppleMaciej[5]嚗
>>>> 
>>>> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-ig-zh/2010Aug/threadl#msg184
>>>> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/obsolete.html#non-conforming-features
>>>> [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/obsolete.html#obsolete-but-conforming-features
>>>> [4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Dec/thread#msg268
>>>> [5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maciej_Stachowiak
>>>> 
>>>> 甇方
>>>> 
>>>> Kenny
>>>> 
>>>> On 2010/09/30, at 8:06, bugzilla@jessica.w3.org wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10838
>>>>> 
>>>>>        Summary: Make <u> conforming.
>>>>>        Product: HTML WG
>>>>>        Version: unspecified
>>>>>       Platform: PC
>>>>>            URL: http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/obsolete.html#obsolete-but-
>>>>>                 conforming-features
>>>>>     OS/Version: All
>>>>>         Status: NEW
>>>>>       Severity: major
>>>>>       Priority: P3
>>>>>      Component: HTML5 spec (editor: Ian Hickson)
>>>>>     AssignedTo: ian@hixie.ch
>>>>>     ReportedBy: kennyluck@w3.org
>>>>>      QAContact: public-html-bugzilla@w3.org
>>>>>             CC: mike@w3.org, public-html-wg-issue-tracking@w3.org,
>>>>>                 public-html@w3.org, public-i18n-cjk@w3.org,
>>>>>                 public-html-ig-zh@w3.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> This was discussed in a long thread[1] three years ago. There was no consensus
>>>>> and no response from the editor, but since some people like Maciej think we can
>>>>> make <u> at least conforming[2], I would like to raise this bug to catch the
>>>>> editor's attention.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Proper name mark, in Chinese [3] is a use case that was slightly mentioned in
>>>>> the thread (see also an example picture[4]). The purpose of this mark is to
>>>>> highlight *every* proper noun in some text to help the reader break words,
>>>>> cause Chinese people don't use spaces for word breaking. Although it is no
>>>>> longer popular recently, proper name mark is still used in some textbooks in
>>>>> Taiwan (esp. children's Chinese textbook) and Hong Kong. Because the purpose
>>>>> and frequency of using "proper name mark" in a piece of text is similar to code
>>>>> highlighting, I personally don't think it's appropriate to use <mark> for this
>>>>> purpose since the spec says "This (<mark>) is separate from syntax
>>>>> highlighting, for which span is more appropriate." But then <span class="pn">
>>>>> is probably too long. This is not yet a very prevalent use case because proper
>>>>> name marks are often used in combination with vertical text and vertical text
>>>>> is not yet popular on the Web.
>>>>> 
>>>>> While I do strongly agree that an underlined text which is not a hyperlink
>>>>> confuses the user in his/her browsing experience, there are HTML user agents
>>>>> for which browsing the Web isn't the main purpose and hence the user might not
>>>>> get confused. e-book readers are such examles.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Dec/thread#msg268
>>>>> [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Dec/0307
>>>>> [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proper_name_mark
>>>>> [4] http://www.go8.com.tw/files/4168%200004.jpg
>>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Regards,
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>>> Zi Bin Cheah / 靚Ｗ
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>>> Web Evangelist
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>> Best regards,
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