- From: Levantovsky, Vladimir <Vladimir.Levantovsky@MonotypeImaging.com>
- Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 02:51:22 -0500
- To: John Hudson <tiro@tiro.com>, WOFF Working Group FONT <public-webfonts-wg@w3.org>
Hello WG, At the last call I mentioned that I will be traveling this week and we agreed to cancel the telcon. However, I believe I can make it this time (I am in Korea, so I will be up late with John D.). Please respond to this email if you're available and can make the call this Wednesday. Thank you, Vlad > -----Original Message----- > From: public-webfonts-wg-request@w3.org [mailto:public-webfonts-wg- > request@w3.org] On Behalf Of John Hudson > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 5:07 PM > To: WOFF Working Group FONT > Subject: Minutes, 19 January WebFonts WG meeting > > Minutes at http://www.w3.org/2011/01/19-webfonts-minutes.html > > and below as text > > > > WebFonts Working Group Teleconference > > 19 Jan 2011 > > See also: [2]IRC log > > [2] http://www.w3.org/2011/01/19-webfonts-irc > > Attendees > > Present > Vlad, John, Cristopher, Chris, Tal, Sergey, Sylvain > > Regrets > Dave_Crossland, Christopher_Slye, Jonathan_Kew > > Chair > Vlad > > Scribe > John > > Contents > > * [3]Topics > 1. [4]Last Call responses > * [5]Summary of Action Items > _________________________________________________________ > > <trackbot> Date: 19 January 2011 > > Chris are you calling in? > > <ChrisL> yes, sorry I have another call back to back with this one > > <ChrisL> zakim seems to knot know the call started > > Vlad: can we recover previous minutes; Chris, maybe some > > <ChrisL> IRC log of last weeks call > [6]http://www.w3.org/2011/01/12-webfonts-irc > > [6] http://www.w3.org/2011/01/12-webfonts-irc > > Last Call responses > > Vlad: ref. Jonathan's proposal to resolve issue 8 > > localisation of credit elements using multiple credit elements > > Tal: support > > Vlad: caveat that this causes bloat of metadata > > <ChrisL> [7]http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html > > [7] http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html > > <ChrisL> so that is 14. I18N-ISSUE-8: Direction attributes needed > > I18N-ISSUE-8 = WebFonts 14 > > No objections; response to I18n assigned to Jonathan > > <ChrisL> ACTION jonathan to respons on issue-14 > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-57 - Respons on issue-14 [on Jonathan Kew > - due 2011-01-26]. > > ACTION Tal revise test cases to allow multiple credit elements > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-58 - Revise test cases to allow multiple > credit elements [on Tal Leming - due 2011-01-26]. > > <ChrisL> 9. I18n-ISSUE-2: Why not using xml:lang? > > Chris: propose XML:lang but backwards compatible option to allow > lang > > <scribe> new content to use XML:lang > > Tal: will require test updates > > Vlad: should avoid allowing both > > Chris: agree > > ACTION Chris Respond to I18n-ISSUE-2 > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-59 - Respond to I18n-ISSUE-2 [on Chris > Lilley - due 2011-01-26]. > > Wait for I18n response to proposals before Tal revises tests > > 11. I18n-ISSUE-5: Use of attributes for human readable text [WOFF] > [8]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www- > font/2010OctDec/0104.html > > [8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www- > font/2010OctDec/0104.html > > Tal: will change to credit elements help resolve this? > > Vlad: I18n also concerned that markup cannot be used with > attributes > > John: can we version metadata? > > Chris: possible, but concerns about opening the door to version 2 > metadata > ... but other concerns about I18n pushback > > Vlad: existing metadata acceptable in XML terms; how serious is > e.g. > markup in credits > > Chris: possible use case for markup in credit: ruby notation > > John: might I18n be satisfied with version 1 backwards compatible > fixes + review for possible version 2 > > Chris: maybe, but they might come back with 'Why not get it right > first time?' > > Vlad: two concerns: localisation (already addressed, issue 8); > inability to use markup. > > Markup need not anticipated, except edge case > > scribe: respond partial resolution (issue 8) but need to maintain > backwards compatibility, ref. charter > > [issue 8] > > hmm, 8 + paren is emoticon > > General response to I18n: we seek to resolve their issues within > the > framework of maintaining backwards compatibility > > <ChrisL> 12. I18N-ISSUE-6: Localization mechanism too restricted > > [9]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www- > font/2010OctDec/0105.html > > [9] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www- > font/2010OctDec/0105.html > > [10]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www- > font/2010OctDec/0108.htm > l > > [10] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www- > font/2010OctDec/0108.html > > <ChrisL> > [11]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www- > font/2010OctDec/0105.htm > l > > [11] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www- > font/2010OctDec/0105.html > > Possible use of ...lang mechanism for vendor, credit and licensee > elements > > Vlad: what would happen to e.g. name attribute in vendor element > with use of ..lang > > Chris: ask Liam > > ACTION Vlad Contact Liam re. XML questions > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-60 - Contact Liam re. XML questions [on > Vladimir Levantovsky - due 2011-01-26]. > > I18N-ISSUE-7: Paragraphs and inline content [WOFF] > > [12]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www- > font/2010OctDec/0106.htm > l > > [12] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www- > font/2010OctDec/0106.html > > Vlad: allow markup in text elements > > Chris: even if no, the spec needs to be revised > ... add div and span > > ACTION Chris To provide samples and respond to I18n > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-61 - Provide samples and respond to I18n > [on Chris Lilley - due 2011-01-26]. > > ACTION Jonathan To modify spec text re. div and span in text > elements > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-62 - Modify spec text re. div and span in > text elements [on Jonathan Kew - due 2011-01-26]. > > <ChrisL> Questions from SZilles (adobe) > [13]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www- > font/2011JanMar/0001.htm > l > > [13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www- > font/2011JanMar/0001.html > > Chris: agree comment 1, suggest splitting introduction into two > sections > > ACTION Chris Respond to Stephen Zilles re. introduction/normative > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-63 - Respond to Stephen Zilles re. > introduction/normative [on Chris Lilley - due 2011-01-26]. > > ACTION Jonathan Remove normative statements from introduction to > new > section 'General Requirements' > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-64 - Remove normative statements from > introduction to new section 'General Requirements' [on Jonathan Kew > - due 2011-01-26]. > > Chris: 2. Unique ID; incorrect, but will revise spec to clarify > > ACTION Chris Respond to Stephen Zilles re. uniqueid > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-65 - Respond to Stephen Zilles re. > uniqueid [on Chris Lilley - due 2011-01-26]. > > Possible future action on Jonathan > > Chris: 3. confusion over possible presence of children of > localisable elements > ... unclear to at least two people, so text needs to be clearer > > Vlad: is that SZ's actual concern? > > <ChrisL> text content and child elements > > Vlad: modify, 'every time an element may be localised' add mention > of children > > ACTION Jonathan Edit spec 'this element may be localised' replaced > 'this element may be localised using text child element' > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-66 - Edit spec 'this element may be > localised' replaced 'this element may be localised using text child > element' [on Jonathan Kew - due 2011-01-26]. > > ACTION Jonathan Edit section 6, past paragraph: 'at least one text > sub element' replaced by 'at least one text child element'. > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-67 - Edit section 6, past paragraph: 'at > least one text sub element' replaced by 'at least one text child > element'. [on Jonathan Kew - due 2011-01-26]. > > ACTION Jonathan General replacement: 'sub elements' to 'child > elements' > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-68 - General replacement: 'sub elements' > to 'child elements' [on Jonathan Kew - due 2011-01-26]. > > <ChrisL> Bert's comments > [14]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www- > font/2011JanMar/0009.htm > l > > [14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www- > font/2011JanMar/0009.html > > Address in email > > SZ No.4 : repeat of conformance criteria in two places > > Make one informative and link to normative > > Chris + Vlad : possibly remove summary > > Chris: summary derivable, hence redundant > > Agreed > > Question to be posed on email in case of objections > > ACTION Vlad Enquire on email re. removal of summary of conformance > requirements > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-69 - Enquire on email re. removal of > summary of conformance requirements [on Vladimir Levantovsky - due > 2011-01-26]. > > Vlad: travelling next week, so might not make call; discuss Bert > Bos' comments on email; skip next week's call > > <ChrisL> next week canceled > > Summary of Action Items > > [End of minutes] > _________________________________________________________ > > > Minutes formatted by David Booth's [15]scribe.perl version 1.135 > ([16]CVS log) > $Date: 2011/01/19 22:04:01 $ > _________________________________________________________ > > [15] > http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm > [16] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/ > > Scribe.perl diagnostic output > > [Delete this section before finalizing the minutes.] > This is scribe.perl Revision: 1.135 of Date: 2009/03/02 03:52:20 > Check for newer version at [17]http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002 > /scribe/ > > [17] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/ > > Guessing input format: RRSAgent_Text_Format (score 1.00) > > No ScribeNick specified. 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