Re: In Development: Pages to Describe Zaima Chant Requirements

Hello Richard,

I think Daniel has some good suggestions below for lists to contact, but 
you may know even better. Please advise.

Regards,    Martin.

On 2017/11/08 02:54, Daniel Yacob wrote:
> Martin & Elias,
> 
> Thank you for the remarks.  Regarding informing other parties within the
> W3C, I'm really not sure where to start when I look over the many, many
> email lists.  Some that look like good candidates are:
> 
>    www-style, w3c-css-wg, public-html, www-internationalization
> 
> Should I send a note to some or all of the above, any others?  Are there
> any recommended additions or modifications to the pages that should be made
> before alerting other groups to them?
> 
> thank you,
> 
> -Daniel
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 12:01 AM Wondimu, Elias <Elias.Wondimu@lmu.edu>
> wrote:
> 
>> Martin,
>>
>> Thank you for sharing this note. What Daniel is doing for Ethiopic
>> writings is very important and please help us spread this with in the HTML
>> and CSS WGs community. Let me know if I can assist you from my end.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Elias
>>
>>
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>> ________________________________________
>> From: Martin J. Dürst [duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp]
>> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 8:38 PM
>> To: Daniel Yacob; public-i18n-ethiopic@w3.org
>> Subject: Re: In Development: Pages to Describe Zaima Chant Requirements
>>
>> Hello Daniel,
>>
>> I have had a short look at your pages, and am very impressed with your
>> work. We should make sure that people e.g. in the HTML and CSS WGs are
>> aware of this.
>>
>> Regards,    Martin.
>>
>> On 2017/11/02 11:19, Daniel Yacob wrote:
>>> Greetings All,
>>>
>>> I had some inspiration recently that many of the challenges of presenting
>>> Zaima chant notation could be handled by layered Ruby markup where the
>>> notation text is elevated in successive layers.  In effect, treating
>> Zaima
>>> as a three dimensional document projected onto a surface.  It worked out
>>> pretty well.  It seems with CSS and JavaScript almost anything is
>> possible
>>> these days.
>>>
>>> While the experiment worked, the approach is akin to a "slight of hand"
>>> that was very sensitive to browser versions and had no guarantee of
>> working
>>> long term.  Case in point, when my browser updated (Chrome v60 to v61),
>> it
>>> all fell apart and I had to start over.  In some respects presentation
>>> capability was lost under the upgrade.
>>>
>>> The exercise did allow me to think about the broader problem of
>> supporting
>>> the Ge'ez hymnody, beyond just the interlinear notation. Broader still,
>> to
>>> consider HTML support of chant traditions that rely on staffless
>> notation.
>>> I am lead to conclude that the W3C would serve a broad, multi-national
>> and
>>> multilingual community if it took on the problem of addressing
>> interlinear
>>> layout more robustly by considering the use cases from chant literature.
>>>
>>> Presentation experiments, use cases, and thoughts on a document model
>>> (general chant and zaima specific extensions) are presented here:
>>>
>>>     http://w3c.github.io/elreq/zaima/
>>>
>>> I have mostly tested the pages in Chrome 61 and Safari 11 which do pretty
>>> well, your browser window will need to be opened wide for most pages if
>> not
>>> full screen.  The documents change almost daily, but are stable for the
>>> most part now.
>>>
>>> There is a lot that can be said about the various aspects of the
>>> experiments and where they could lead, and many questions raised in need
>> of
>>> expert input, but I'll stop for now.  In short, I plan to continue
>> refining
>>> the zaima document model and hope to take up the general problem of
>>> interlinear text layout with interested groups at the W3C.  Any input is
>>> welcomed.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> -Daniel
>>
>>
> 

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Prof. Dr.sc. Martin J. Dürst
Department of Intelligent Information Technology
College of Science and Engineering
Aoyama Gakuin University
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