Re: PROV-ISSUE-91 (what-to-define-for-location): what should we define under the heading 'location' [Conceptual Model]

Hi Luc 
I believe it is essential to have hooks in the model to well known an important provenance concepts. This includes location. 

Paul 


On Nov 30, 2011, at 12:59, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:

> 
> Dear all,
> 
> Following this September message, I am proposing to close this issue 
> formally.
> 
> This said, location is so weakly specified in the model, that it begs 
> the question "what
> does it do in the model at all". No specific data type, no specific 
> property, no specific
> constraint, no specific inference.  As part of the clean up, we could 
> simply drop this
> concept, and it wouldn't affect inter-operability!
> 
> If you have views on this, please raise them as new issues.
> 
> Regards,
> Luc
> 
> On 09/23/2011 11:50 AM, Luc Moreau wrote:
>> 
>> We are proposing to close this issue, pending review.
>> The latest version of the document states that:
>> 
>> Location is an OPTIONAL attribute of entity expressions and process 
>> execution expressions.
>> 
>> Feel free to reopen it, if you feel this is not right.
>> Regards,
>> Luc
>> 
>> On 06/09/2011 12:47, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
>>> PROV-ISSUE-91 (what-to-define-for-location): what should we define 
>>> under the heading 'location' [Conceptual Model]
>>> 
>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/91
>>> 
>>> Raised by: Luc Moreau
>>> On product: Conceptual Model
>>> 
>>> We have received little input and there has been barely any 
>>> discussion on location.
>>> The current text is essentially copied from the wiki and is not 
>>> aligned with the rest of the model.
>>> 
>>> So, can entities have location?  If so, should location appear as an 
>>> attribute of an entity?
>>> So, should PIDM define some core attributes? or should this be left 
>>> to a generic profile?
>>> 
>>> What about process executions? PIDM does not have "attribute" for 
>>> PEs. So, do we need to define a relation hasLocation?
>>> 
>>> Is location unique for an entity/pe?
>>> 
>>> Can people who have interest in location for provenance provide us 
>>> with some guidance, so that we can write something sensible for the 
>>> FPWD.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
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