Re: ISSUE-139: uniform descriptions and implementations of constraint components

On 6/7/16 10:09 PM, Holger Knublauch wrote:
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> On 8/06/2016 14:57, Karen Coyle wrote:
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>> On 6/7/16 7:38 PM, Holger Knublauch wrote:
>>> Yes and SHACL should implement the same policy, because sh:maxCount also
>>> only makes sense for predicate-based constraints and not node
>>> constraints.
>>
>> Does this then rule out a constraint like "n things of type x"? For
>> example, if you want to limit the number of foaf:Person nodes?
>
> No. To express "A graph must have at most 2 instances of foaf:Person"
> you would write
>
> ex:MyShape
>     a sh:Shape ;
>     sh:scopeNode foaf:Person ;
>     sh:inverseProperty [
>         sh:predicate rdf:type ;
>         sh:maxCount 2 ;
>     ] .
>
> In other words "there must be at most 2 triples that have foaf:Person as
> object and rdf:type as predicate".
>
> Peter's suggested use of sh:maxCount at node constraints would mean
>
> "Verify that the set of value nodes is not larger than two. Oh, and
> regardless of the actual data, I already know that this set of value
> nodes has size 1, because it always consists of the focus node only. So
> actually I only need to test whether the value of sh:maxCount > 0."
>
> which is a rather useless construct. You have just confirmed that
> misusing sh:maxCount as node constraints will likely confuse users.
>
> Is this difference clearer now, or what else could I clarify?

Treating this as a simple test of the triple pattern makes sense to me, 
but it would make more sense if that was the general SHACL approach. In 
other words, the emphasis on the "class" nature elsewhere rather than 
always working with the abstract triple model. The emphasis on an 
interpretation of rdf:type as defining a class elsewhere in SHACL makes 
this simple solution less obvious. When is a class not a class? (That's 
a rhetorical question, but perhaps there is an answer.)

kc


>
> Thanks,
> Holger
>
>
>

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