- From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:09:13 +0100
- To: www International <www-international@w3.org>
http://www.w3.org/2014/09/18-i18n-minutes.html
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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
18 Sep 2014
[2]Agenda
[2]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Sep/0014.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2014/09/18-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
Addison, Richard, Dennis, Felix, Koji, Mati, Xiaoqian
Regrets
JcK, Leandro
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Agenda
2. [6]Action Items
3. [7]Info Share
4. [8]What Time is this Meeting At?
5. [9]Report on China Layout Requirements
6. [10]Unencoded Scripts
7. [11]AOB?
* [12]Summary of Action Items
__________________________________________________________
Agenda
Action Items
[13]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[13] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
action-252?
<trackbot> action-252 -- Felix Sasaki to Ping dita folks about
contacting html5 about ruby progress -- due 2013-09-05 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[14]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/252
[14] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/252
close action-340
<trackbot> Closed action-340.
action-344?
<trackbot> action-344 -- Addison Phillips to Respond to css on
issue-334 -- due 2014-09-18 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[15]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/344
[15] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/344
issue-334?
<trackbot> issue-334 -- 'letter-spacing' and Indic -- open
<trackbot> [16]http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/334
[16] http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/334
Info Share
addison: welcomes new member Dennis Tan Tanaka
DTan: work for verisign and working on IDN
xiaoqian: my first call
... glad to help with issues related to chinese culture
richard: published Encoding as CR on Tuesday
(hurray)
<r12a>
[17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Sep/0240.
html
[17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Sep/0240.html
richard: surprising thing happened
... dave hyatt at apple implementing bopomofo ruby
... works in nightly
... a few wrinkles yet to fix
... some test cases in the link, etc.
fsasaki: considering dates of new MLWeb workshop
<fsasaki> 27.4 - 29.4
fsasaki: 27 to 29 april
... reserve the time if you wish to attend
<Najib-ma> What are the chenges between the two spec W3C and
WhatWG?
there are no differences other than the style and fixing the
reference links
<r12a>
[18]http://www.w3.org/International/tests/repository/encoding/i
ndexes/results-aliases
[18]
http://www.w3.org/International/tests/repository/encoding/indexes/results-aliases
richard: tests for single byte encodings so far
... added android chrome mobile, safari mobile, and uc browser
<scribe> Agenda: RADAR
[19]https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar
[19] https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar
What Time is this Meeting At?
<matial> Nope, 1 hour earleir
<matial> You cannot keep the wall time for both hemispheres
<matial> Pls give times as UTC
[20]http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=
20141218&p1=234&p2=33&p3=136
[20]
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20141218&p1=234&p2=33&p3=136
Addison to make proposals
Report on China Layout Requirements
richard: talked to cindy earlier and asked for update on the
workshop last week
xiaoqian: want to share news about chinese
... most people speak "chinese"
... but many minority languages
<xiaoqian> [21]http://www.chinaw3c.org/layout-workshop.html
[21] http://www.chinaw3c.org/layout-workshop.html
xiaoqian: you can find agenda above
... richard gave keynote about i18n wg
... Bobby Tung gave another about why we need that as well
<xiaoqian> simplified Chinese, traditional Chinese, Tibetan,
Uighur, Mongolian
xiaoqian: monogolian folks were very well prepared
<xiaoqian>
[22]http://www.w3.org/2014/Talks/0911-Beihang-ZhReqWorkshop/Mon
golian.pptx
[22]
http://www.w3.org/2014/Talks/0911-Beihang-ZhReqWorkshop/Mongolian.pptx
xiaoqian: in afternoon major digitial publishers
... shared concerns about progress on web
... all major players agreed that having a task force in w3c
... separate into chinese and then minority languages
... also visited chinese browser vendors
... both very interested in having features in their products
... and international framework in their mobile products
... agreed to provide more details
richard: quite a good result
... mongolian guys were most positive and prepared
... uighur script should interface at some point with arabic
script
... planning to contact people
... and hope to make slides available in English
... as a small starting point
... cindy also working on chinese ruby information
... in early draft phase
... big thing in the week
... seeing team using mobile devices all the time
... and made changes in the test framework
... wechat and UCWeb interested in test suites and i18n checker
... need to think more about mobile use cases
addison: different "chinese" languages not all the same: can be
separate documents or mail lists etc... or not
xiaoqian: maybe separate into different groups as not all
people speak Chinese that well
richard: talk to PLH
addison: very much want this information! glad to see this.
Unencoded Scripts
<r12a> thanks Cindy for the report !
[23]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014S
ep/0013.html
[23]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Sep/0013.html
AOB?
koji: css3 text... currently 5 open issues
... but maybe I missed some open items?
addison: (discusses issue mentiones previously)
richard: on indic layout requirements
... they want to do FPWD
... think we should look at the document
... some structural comments
... maybe some gaps
<koji> [24]http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/Tracker/products/10
[24] http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/Tracker/products/10
<r12a> [25]http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/2
[25] http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/2
action-343?
<trackbot> action-343 -- Richard Ishida to Reply to css text
issues listed in linked email in minutes with satisfaction (if
satisfied) -- due 2014-09-18 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[26]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/343
[26] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/343
<koji> [27]http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-text/issues-lc-2013
[27] http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-text/issues-lc-2013
koji: fantasai also manages a list in a text file (see above)
richard: predefined counter styles item?
[28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2014J
ulSep/0313.html
[28]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2014JulSep/0313.html
richard: interesting question
... ff supports all 120
... so you wouldn't need to define it in ff
... but no other browsers do that, so maybe confuses users
addison: if not all browsers implement
... then you still have to put into your stylesheet
... which makes the browser implementation pointless?
koji: are you suggesting FF should remove?
richard: not sure
... my recommendation would be "always put into your CSS"
... but also not sure if should remove
koji: in general FF prefers interoperability than doing better
than other browsers
... also john said we don't want to keep increasing the list
<scribe> ACTION: richard: respond to jonathan's note about
counter styles [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2014/09/18-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-345 - Respond to jonathan's note
about counter styles [on Richard Ishida - due 2014-09-25].
<matial> Bye
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: richard: respond to jonathan's note about counter
styles [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2014/09/18-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
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