- From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 12:38:04 +0100
- To: www International <www-international@w3.org>
http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-i18n-minutes.html
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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
18 Jul 2013
[2]Agenda
[2]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013Jul/0018.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
Richard, aphillip, JcK, DavidClarke, matial, Norbert
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Action Items
2. [6]Info Share
3. [7]RADAR
4. [8]Bytestring in Web IDL
5. [9]CSS counter styles
6. [10]Info Share
7. [11]Charmod (and friends)
8. [12]Bidi
9. [13]AOB?
* [14]Summary of Action Items
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Action Items
close ACTION-215
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-215 Double-check that all .prep items
are gone to html5.
<r12a> [15]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[15] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
close ACTION-234
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-234 Ping Mark Davis asking if Google
can get statistics on <bdo> usage.
close ACTION-236
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-236 Trackerize Shapes and write to
www-style to ask about rtlflip and writing-modes.
Info Share
addison: on vacation next two teleconferences
richard: rewriting tests
... which will someday be a Good Thing
... submitted first set to HTML test repo
... got lots of comments back
... so had to rewrite i18n test framework
... been implementing
... tests will all say the same thing
... but the script behind them will look different
RADAR
[16]http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar
[16] http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar
[17]http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-css-fonts-3-20130711/
[17] http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-css-fonts-3-20130711/
shepherd needed
addison to shepherd
[18]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webcomponents/raw-file/tip/spec/temp
lates/index.html
[18]
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webcomponents/raw-file/tip/spec/templates/index.html
that's a last call closing on 23 July
norbert will take a look
Bytestring in Web IDL
Norbert: was looking at WebIDL
<Norbert>
[19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-script-coord/201
3JulSep/thread.html#msg56
[19]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-script-coord/2013JulSep/thread.html#msg56
Norbert: and started discussion thread at above link
... found an interface called bytestring
<Norbert>
[20]http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/WebIDL/#idl-ByteString
[20] http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/WebIDL/#idl-ByteString
Norbert: it's a weird type for capturing a string a bytes
<Norbert>
[21]http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/WebIDL/#idl-ByteString
[21] http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/WebIDL/#idl-ByteString
Norbert: and comes with default conversion to JS String
... and depends on ISO 8859-1
... can't specify other encodings
... XHR was source
... and byte mapping to chars of same value
... spreads the use of Latin-1 to new specs???
... started discussion
... can't remove from XHR (legacy reasons)
... but could remove from IDL spec
... new spec called Fetch wants to expose just bytes
JcK: every place I look at bytestring in combo with chars
... feels like deeper into a hole
<scribe> ... continued use of datatype is a Bad Thing
<scribe> ACTION: Norbert: produce one-pager summary of WebIDL
Bytestring and alternatives for consideration by WG [recorded
in [22]http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-241 - Produce one-pager summary of
WebIDL Bytestring and alternatives for consideration by WG [on
Norbert Lindenberg - due 2013-07-25].
CSS counter styles
[23]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013J
ul/0016.html
[23]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013Jul/0016.html
(*) The document contains a reference to a list of
non-normative but ready-to-use counter definitions maintained
by the I18N WG. (Also useful as examples of what counter styles
look like.)
[24]http://www.w3.org/International/docs/counter-styles/
[24] http://www.w3.org/International/docs/counter-styles/
richard: mean to publish FPWD out for review
... few things recommended while I was in Japan
... need to dig out those comments
<scribe> chair: please indicate desire (or opposition) to
publishing this document as FPWD
addison: +1
<r12a> +1 (of course)
<Norbert> +1
<DavidClarke> +1
Norbert: can we get rid of all the red coloring in the
document?
<scribe> ACTION: richard: publish FPWD of counter-styles WG
Note [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-242 - Publish FPWD of counter-styles
WG Note [on Richard Ishida - due 2013-07-25].
addison: who wants to shepherd counter-styles (the CSS
document)?
richard to shepherd
richard: will get rid of red coloring
... Tab suggested reducing length of lines
... but if wrapped it's harder to see
... the relationships
JcK: printing and other devices might not look so good
Info Share
richard: doing an article about what's going on in I18N
activity
... "Around the WWW in 80 Seconds"
... tell me if there are things to mention
Charmod (and friends)
- edit session: when - PRECIS
[26]http://tools.ietf.org/wg/precis/
[26] http://tools.ietf.org/wg/precis/
edit session at Unicode conference
and do an online one first
target late august
Preparation and Comparison of Internationalized Strings (Active
WG)
JcK: following it some
... moving down the path of one protocol == one set of rules
... possibly different rules (many of them for many protocols)
addison: should agree on vocabulary and definitions
<scribe> ACTION: addison: remind everyone to read PRECIS
documents for discussion of charmod-norm [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-243 - Remind everyone to read PRECIS
documents for discussion of charmod-norm [on Addison Phillips -
due 2013-07-25].
<scribe> ACTION: addison: write to the PRECIS list pointing out
similarity of activity and need/desire to get similar
definitions/recommendations where it makes sense [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-244 - Write to the PRECIS list
pointing out similarity of activity and need/desire to get
similar definitions/recommendations where it makes sense [on
Addison Phillips - due 2013-07-25].
Bidi
mati: submitted to ICU support for UBA added features
... hope that's in next release?
... bracket pairing, etc.
AOB?
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: addison: remind everyone to read PRECIS documents
for discussion of charmod-norm [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: write to the PRECIS list pointing out
similarity of activity and need/desire to get similar
definitions/recommendations where it makes sense [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Norbert: produce one-pager summary of WebIDL
Bytestring and alternatives for consideration by WG [recorded
in [31]http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: publish FPWD of counter-styles WG Note
[recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[End of minutes]
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Richard Ishida, W3C
http://rishida.net/
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