- From: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>
- Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 11:29:57 -0400
- To: "public-webevents@w3.org" <public-webevents@w3.org>
The draft minutes from the October 4 voice conference are available at
the following and copied below:
http://www.w3.org/2011/10/04-webevents-minutes.html
WG Members - if you have any comments, corrections, etc., please send
them to the public-webevents mail list before October 11 (the next voice
conference); otherwise these minutes will be considered Approved as is.
-AB
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
Web Events WG Voice Conference
04 Oct 2011
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011OctDec/0000.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2011/10/04-webevents-irc
Attendees
Present
Art_Barstow, Dzung_Tran, Olli_Pettay, Matt_Brubeck,
Suman_Sharma, Ted_Mielczarek
Regrets
Chair
Art
Scribe
Art
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Agenda
2. [6]Announcements
3. [7]Touch Event v1 Last Call
4. [8]Issue-19: Align initTouchEvent parameters with Webkit
5. [9]Issue-23: Add a DOM4-style constructor to create and
initialize TouchEvent objects.
6. [10]Issue-21 and Issue-22 ; status of Cathy's proposal
7. [11]Feedback from PFWG on Touch Events 13 September 2011
draft
8. [12]Testing Touch Events
9. [13]Any Other Business (AOB)
* [14]Summary of Action Items
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<smaug> mbrubeck: once I've written some more, perhaps you could
push those to w3c hg
<scribe> ScribeNick: ArtB
<scribe> Scribe: Art
Date: 04 October 2011
<smaug> yes
Agenda
AB: I submitted a draft agenda to the list on October 3
[15]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011OctDec/
0000.html. Any change requests?
[15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011OctDec/0000.html.
<ssharma2> +1.408.653.aabb is Suman_Sharma
Announcements
AB: any short announcements for today?
Touch Event v1 Last Call
AB: reminder the comment deadline for the Touch Events v1 LC is
October 11 [16]http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-Touch-Events-20110913/.
I think the comment tracking document includes all of the comments
submitted to date
<[17]http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/wiki/TouchEvents-LCWD-13-Sep-2
011
... if I missed anything, please let me know
[16] http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-Touch-Events-20110913/.
[17] http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/wiki/TouchEvents-LCWD-13-Sep-2011
Issue-19: Align initTouchEvent parameters with Webkit
AB: this is a standing issue
<[18]http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/issues/19>. Any feedback
from Webkit community?
... I haven't seen anything
[18] http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/issues/19%3E.
MB: I have not
AB: this leaves us where we were last time
... this is related to Issue-23 ...
Issue-23: Add a DOM4-style constructor to create and initialize
TouchEvent objects.
AB: we discussed Issue-23
[19]http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/issues/23 last week
[20]http://www.w3.org/2011/09/27-webevents-minutes.html#item04 and
there was some subsequent followup between Matt, Anne and Olli
[21]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011JulSep/
0092.html
... If Olli is OK with removing initTouchEvent method from TE v1,
then I think we have consensus. A consequence of that change is a
new LC will be needed.
... is that a fair characterization?
[19] http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/issues/23
[20] http://www.w3.org/2011/09/27-webevents-minutes.html#item04
[21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011JulSep/0092.html
OP: it's OK with removing it
… from v1
… And we need to do something about creating events in v2
… But this allows v1 to proceed
… and we can continue to work on v2
… This also means all testing will need to be manual
AB: it seems like we have consensus on Issue-23 to remove
initTouchEvent
… are there any objections to removing it?
AB: Doug of course has an opinion on this
… and I believe he now agrees with removing initTouchEvent from v1
… I know he isn't here
MB: yes, I think Doug agreed with this proposal to remove during the
last call
AB: then let's record a resolution and close Issue-23
RESOLUTION: the initTouchEvent method will be removed in LC1 (and
this means a new LC will be needed)
AB: anything else on that issue?
Issue-21 and Issue-22 ; status of Cathy's proposal
MB: we need an action to remove that method
… I can't do it this week
AB: can anyone else take an action to remove that method
<scribe> ACTION: brubeck remove the initTouchEvent method from v1
spec [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2011/10/04-webevents-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-78 - Remove the initTouchEvent method from
v1 spec [on Matt Brubeck - due 2011-10-11].
AB: last week we discussed Issue-21
[23]http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/issues/21 and Issue-22
[24]http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/issues/22 and Cathy's
proposals to address the issues
[25]http://www.w3.org/2011/09/27-webevents-minutes.html#item05
... I believe we agreed that if no one expressed any concerns that
Cathy would submit a changeset based on her proposal
... Cathy isn't here today
[23] http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/issues/21
[24] http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/issues/22
[25] http://www.w3.org/2011/09/27-webevents-minutes.html#item05
… I don't know here status
AB: any comments on Cathy's proposal?
<scribe> ACTION: cathy to commit her proposals for Issue-21 and
Issue-22 [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2011/10/04-webevents-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-79 - Commit her proposals for Issue-21 and
Issue-22 [on Cathy Chan - due 2011-10-11].
Feedback from PFWG on Touch Events 13 September 2011 draft
AB: Last week WAI's PFWG submitted some comments
[27]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011JulSep/
0091.html for the TE LC. I captured those as LC-6
[28]http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/wiki/TouchEvents-LCWD-13-Sep-20
11#LC-6 and LC-7
[29]http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/wiki/TouchEvents-LCWD-13-Sep-20
11#LC-7
... the first comment (LC-7) is about the need for additional text
re the relation between touch events and mouse events. And LC-6 is a
request for some editorial questions.
... I don't think there are any "Issues" per se but rather some
follow up actions to address the comments.
... has anyone read the comments from PFWG?
[27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011JulSep/0091.html
[28] http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/wiki/TouchEvents-LCWD-13-Sep-2011#LC-6
[29] http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/wiki/TouchEvents-LCWD-13-Sep-2011#LC-7
MB: not yet
AB: encourage everyone to followup on the mail list
… that is, respond to Michael Cooper's email
Testing Touch Events
AB: we have a few actions related to touch event testing Action-74,
Action-66 and Action-72. Earlier today Olli replied to his Action-74
[30]http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/actions/74 via
[31]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011OctDec/
0001.html
... I haven't looked at Olli's input
[30] http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/actions/74
[31] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011OctDec/0001.html
OP: I looked at what Matt had done
… and added some tests for multiple touches
… We will need a lot more tests
… But this is a start
… I can add some more later
AB: thanks very much!
OP: I am using Android
… and the default browser and it passes the tests
… The default browser on Android uses webkit
… The default browser and Opera browser both pass all of the tests I
wrote
AB: that's really helpful
... Tran has Action-66:<Create multitouch test cases for the Touch
Events spec> that is blocked on Olli. Perhaps Tran could review what
Olli created.
DT: I did look at it this morning
… I will copy it and then expand on it
… and try to do something this week
AB: ok, that's great
... anything else on testing for today?
OP: once we have more tests for multitouch
… we should move them to W3C
… My tests are not in W3C space now
… But they need to move
AB: if you have any issues with that, Doug can help you (or perhaps
me ;-)
Any Other Business (AOB)
AB: we will have a call next week if there are sufficient topics
... encourage everyone to continue to use the Public mail list
... anything else for today?
... meeting adjourned
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: brubeck remove the initTouchEvent method from v1 spec
[recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2011/10/04-webevents-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: cathy to commit her proposals for Issue-21 and
Issue-22 [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2011/10/04-webevents-minutes.html#action02]
[End of minutes]
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