- From: Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org>
- Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 13:36:55 +0100
- To: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
- CC: rhodgson@topquadrant.com, public-prov-wg@w3.org
On 22/08/2011 21:56, Luc Moreau wrote: > Hi Ralph, > Don't you end up with a mix of relation names: > uses, derivedFrom and hasParticipant ? That looks uniform to me. Some properties are formed from multi-part names, some aren't - I don't see that can be avoided. #g -- > My preference is for uniformity. If we go for a verbal form for some, we should > go for all; > otherwise for none. > > Luc > > On 22/08/11 20:09, Ralph Hodgson wrote: >> >> /Propose that 'is' be dropped from all predicates that have a suffix. Two >> reasons - parsimony and connotations (in fact denotations) about tense are >> removed./ >> >> / / >> >> / Example: 'isDerivedFrom' becomes 'derivedFrom'./ >> >> / / >> >> /Also advocate that all predicates begin with a lowercase letter./ >> >> / / >> >> Ralph Hodgson, @ralphtq <http://twitter.com/ralphtq> >> >> Mobile Phone: +1 781-789-1664 >> >> CTO, TopQuadrant <http://www.topquadrant.com/>, @TopQuadrant >> <http://twitter.com/topquadrant> >> >> */Blog:/*/ Voyages of the Semantic Enterprise >> <http://topquadrantblog.blogspot.com/>/ >> >> */Next Intro Class: /*/Introduction to Semantic Web Technologies: What they >> are and how to use them - Sept. 12 - 15, 2011, Washington DC area >> <http://www.topquadrant.com/training/intro.html>/ , >> >> */Next Advanced Class: /*/Advanced Product Training, Sept. 26 - 29 , 2011, >> Washington, DC area <http://www.topquadrant.com/training/advanced.html>/// >> >> / / >> >> *From:* public-prov-wg-request@w3.org [mailto:public-prov-wg-request@w3.org] >> *On Behalf Of *Luc Moreau >> *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2011 2:53 AM >> *To:* public-prov-wg@w3.org >> *Subject:* Re: PROV-ISSUE-72 (DGarijo): Uses should be renamed as used [Formal >> Model] >> >> Hi Daniel and Simon, >> >> In the conceptual model (up to section 5), all relations use present tense, >> uses, isDerivedFrom, isComplementOf, isGeneratedBy, ... >> >> I agree with Daniel, we need consistency in the conceptual model and formal >> model. >> >> I agree with Simon, it's nice to point back into the past. >> >> Luc >> >> PS. I took as an action to poll about the use of tense. >> >> On 08/11/2011 04:46 PM, Simon Miles wrote: >> >> +1 for "used", for the reasons you give. >> -1 for "isUsedBy". All other relations in the model link effect/later >> occurrence to cause/earlier occurrence, so "isUsedBy" would be >> inconsistent. This means that provenance graphs would not consistently >> point back into the past of the thing we're seeing the provenance of, >> and would be confusing to iteratively navigate. >> Thanks, >> Simon >> On 11 August 2011 16:38, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker >> <sysbot+tracker@w3.org> <mailto:sysbot+tracker@w3.org> wrote: >> >> >> PROV-ISSUE-72 (DGarijo): Uses should be renamed as used [Formal Model] >> >> >> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/72 >> >> >> Raised by: Daniel Garijo >> >> On product: Formal Model >> >> >> Since all the other properties are using the past tense, we should be >> consistens and rename uses to "used" or "isUsedBy" flipping the domain and range >> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. >> >> For more information please visithttp://www.messagelabs.com/email >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Professor Luc Moreau >> Electronics and Computer Science tel: +44 23 8059 4487 >> University of Southampton fax: +44 23 8059 2865 >> Southampton SO17 1BJ email:l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk >> <mailto:l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> United >> Kingdomhttp://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm <http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/%7Elavm> >
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