RE: ACTION-791: Redraft proposed "status" section that TAG is suggesting for Polyglot

Could the TAG chairs please give us some idea if the TAG is going to follow thru on this Polyglot matter or whether the HTML WG should consider it dropped?

/paulc
HTML WG co-chair

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329

From: Eliot Graff
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 12:01 PM
To: Alex Russell; www-tag@w3.org
Cc: Peter Linss; Daniel Appelquist; Paul Cotton; Leif Halvard Silli (xn--mlform-iua@målform.no); Noah Mendelsohn
Subject: RE: ACTION-791: Redraft proposed "status" section that TAG is suggesting for Polyglot

Hi Alex and other TAG members.

In order to proceed along the process, will someone please log a bug against polyglot for the following:

As discussed at today's F2F meeting, we'd like the HTML WG to consider the following preface language for "Status of This Document":

This document summarizes design guidelines for authors who wish their XHTML or HTML documents to validate on either HTML or XML parsers. This specification is intended to be used by web authors, particularly authors who want to serve receivers which may have either (but not both) XML or HTML parsers available. This commonly arises in legacy systems and content syndication. Polyglot is one of several transition mechanisms from legacy XML to HTML5 and this document serves to describe it accurately.

No recommendation is made in this document or by the W3C regarding whether or not to publish polyglot content. In general, authors are encouraged to publish HTML content using HTML5 syntax and media types (either HTML syntax and text/html, or XHTML syntax andapplication/xhtml+xml

This document is not a specification for user agents and creates no obligations on user agents. Note that this recommendation does not define how HTML5-conforming user agents should process HTML documents. Nor does it define the meaning of the Internet Media Type text/html. For user agent guidance and for these definitions, see [HTML5] and [RFC2854].

Or are you asking me to make the change based on this email alone?

Thanks so much,

Eliot

From: Eliot Graff
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 12:34 PM
To: 'Alex Russell'
Cc: 'Peter Linss'; 'Daniel Appelquist'; 'www-tag@w3.org'; Paul Cotton; 'Leif Halvard Silli (xn--mlform-iua@målform.no<mailto:xn--mlform-iua@målform.no>)'; 'Noah Mendelsohn'
Subject: RE: ACTION-791: Redraft proposed "status" section that TAG is suggesting for Polyglot

Hi Alex.

Will you be able to open a bug with the requested change to the SOTD for Polyglot?

Thanks so much,

Eliot

From: Eliot Graff
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 7:46 AM
To: Paul Cotton; Alex Russell; Noah Mendelsohn
Cc: Peter Linss; Daniel Appelquist; www-tag@w3.org<mailto:www-tag@w3.org>; Leif Halvard Silli (xn--mlform-iua@målform.no<mailto:xn--mlform-iua@målform.no>)
Subject: RE: ACTION-791: Redraft proposed "status" section that TAG is suggesting for Polyglot

Thanks, Paul.

Alex,

If you'll kindly open a bug with the TAG's request, I will take it from there.

Much obliged,

Eliot

From: Paul Cotton
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 6:26 PM
To: Eliot Graff; Alex Russell; Noah Mendelsohn
Cc: Peter Linss; Daniel Appelquist; www-tag@w3.org<mailto:www-tag@w3.org>; Leif Halvard Silli (xn--mlform-iua@målform.no<mailto:xn--mlform-iua@målform.no>)
Subject: RE: ACTION-791: Redraft proposed "status" section that TAG is suggesting for Polyglot

I suggest that we file a bug for this change so that the usual tracking mechanisms within the HTML WG are used.

/paulc

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329

From: Eliot Graff
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:40 PM
To: Alex Russell; Noah Mendelsohn; Paul Cotton
Cc: Peter Linss; Daniel Appelquist; www-tag@w3.org<mailto:www-tag@w3.org>; Leif Halvard Silli (xn--mlform-iua@målform.no<mailto:xn--mlform-iua@målform.no>)
Subject: RE: ACTION-791: Redraft proposed "status" section that TAG is suggesting for Polyglot

Thank you, Alex.

I am happy to incorporate the content you propose in the preface to the sotd section.

Paul, please let me know if you would like a wider discussion of this before I make an edit such as this.

Cheers,

Eliot

From: Alex Russell [mailto:slightlyoff@google.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:00 AM
To: Noah Mendelsohn
Cc: Peter Linss; Daniel Appelquist; Paul Cotton; www-tag@w3.org<mailto:www-tag@w3.org>; Eliot Graff; Leif Halvard Silli (xn--mlform-iua@målform.no<mailto:xn--mlform-iua@målform.no>)
Subject: Re: ACTION-791: Redraft proposed "status" section that TAG is suggesting for Polyglot

Hi Everyone,

As discussed at today's F2F meeting, we'd like the HTML WG to consider the following preface language for "Status of This Document":

This document summarizes design guidelines for authors who wish their XHTML or HTML documents to validate on either HTML or XML parsers. This specification is intended to be used by web authors, particularly authors who want to serve receivers which may have either (but not both) XML or HTML parsers available. This commonly arises in legacy systems and content syndication. Polyglot is one of several transition mechanisms from legacy XML to HTML5 and this document serves to describe it accurately.

No recommendation is made in this document or by the W3C regarding whether or not to publish polyglot content. In general, authors are encouraged to publish HTML content using HTML5 syntax and media types (either HTML syntax and text/html, or XHTML syntax andapplication/xhtml+xml

This document is not a specification for user agents and creates no obligations on user agents. Note that this recommendation does not define how HTML5-conforming user agents should process HTML documents. Nor does it define the meaning of the Internet Media Type text/html. For user agent guidance and for these definitions, see [HTML5] and [RFC2854].

Regards

On Saturday, May 25, 2013, Noah Mendelsohn wrote:
Peter and Dan:

I suggest you schedule this for discussion at the F2F. We owe Paul and the HTML WG an answer on this.

Noah

On 5/25/2013 10:03 AM, Paul Cotton wrote:
See http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/791

What is the status of this action item?  Has the TAG closed on the proposed
text?  Are you planning to submit any proposed text to the HTML WG via a
Polyglot bug?

/paulc

HTML WG co-chair

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada

17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3

Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329