[minutes] May 19 teleconf

Hi,

The minutes of our call today are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mwts-minutes.html
linked from
http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/
and copied as text below.

Dom

    Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference

19 May 2009

   [2]Agenda

      [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009May/0017.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mwts-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Carmelo, Dom, wilhelm, Kai, dmitri

   Regrets
   Chair
          Wilhelm

   Scribe
          dom

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Widgets testing
         2. [6]Memory test
         3. [7]Device Indenpendent Testing Guidelines
         4. [8]Web Compatibility Test
         5. [9]Blog
         6. [10]OMA
         7. [11]Next meeting
     * [12]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________

Widgets testing

   <dom_scribe> [13]Widgets tests

     [13] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2006/waf/widgets/tests/

   ACTION-47?

   <trackbot> ACTION-47 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to follow-up on
   publishing details about SPARTAN -- due 2009-05-19 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [14]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/47

     [14] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/47

   Wilhelm: I have started to write a post

   ACTION-47 closed

   <trackbot> ACTION-47 Follow-up on publishing details about SPARTAN
   closed

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to draft a blog post on SPARTAN [recorded
   in [15]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mwts-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-52 - Draft a blog post on SPARTAN [on
   Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-05-26].

   ACTION-2?

   <trackbot> ACTION-2 -- Kai Hendry to continue integrating his tests
   WTF -- due 2009-05-01 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [16]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/2

     [16] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/2

   Kai: I've been exchanging with Robert - good dialog going
   ... added a couple of tests, but nothing substantial
   ... the problem is that the widget spec is going through big changes

   ACTION-36?

   <trackbot> ACTION-36 -- Kai Hendry to provide a tour of WTF during a
   call -- due 2009-05-05 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/36

     [17] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/36

   <dom_scribe> [18]WTF Tour on Kai's post

     [18] http://dabase.com/blog/Widget_Test_Framework/

   ACTION-36 closed

   <trackbot> ACTION-36 Provide a tour of WTF during a call closed

   <hendry> [19]http://wtf.webvm.net/

     [19] http://wtf.webvm.net/

   Kai: quick tour: point your browser to wtf.webvm.net with opera and
   try one of the widget
   ... still early days, but Robert has been ensuring me that WTF will
   be open-sourced
   ... once that happens I can start investing in it
   ... would help transparency too

   Wilhelm: it should happen

Memory test

   <dom_scribe> [20]Memory Test

     [20] http://qa-dev.w3.org/2009/memory-test/

   ACTION-48?

   <trackbot> ACTION-48 -- Kai Hendry to look again into memory test
   wrt failures at high memory levels -- due 2009-05-19 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/48

     [21] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/48

   Kai: the original test script was in shell, which triggered problems
   with Apache (memory, timeout, etc)
   ... I suspect we would get rid of these problems with PHP

   Dom: installed it

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to retest memory test with his devices
   [recorded in
   [22]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mwts-minutes.html#action02]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-53 - Retest memory test with his devices
   [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-05-26].

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to retest memory test with his devices
   [recorded in
   [23]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mwts-minutes.html#action03]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-54 - Retest memory test with his devices
   [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-05-26].

   Dom: do we need to re-raise the limit in the script?

   Kai: probably not, it's already pretty high
   ... 8.6 MB

   ACTION-48 closed

   <trackbot> ACTION-48 Look again into memory test wrt failures at
   high memory levels closed

Device Indenpendent Testing Guidelines

   ACTION-49?

   <trackbot> ACTION-49 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to present the
   DITG to the W3C chairs -- due 2009-05-19 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [24]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/49

     [24] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/49

Web Compatibility Test

   <dom_scribe> [25]Web Compatibility Test (WCTMB)

     [25] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/mobile-test/

   ACTION-44 closed

   <trackbot> ACTION-44 Publish updated WCTMB and post a blog about the
   update closed

   ACTION-39?

   <trackbot> ACTION-39 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to look through Kai's
   proposals for new tests -- due 2009-05-05 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [26]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/39

     [26] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/39

   ACTION-39 closed

   <trackbot> ACTION-39 Look through Kai's proposals for new tests
   closed

   Wilhelm: I've looked at it
   ... test on storage sounds like a good idea
   ... not sure about onload - just because I don't know enough about
   it
   ... we should also add tests about new things, e.g. selectors APIs
   ... but we need to discuss what the WCTMB should be
   ... maybe we should start looking at making a brand new version of
   the WCTMB

   Dom: I think that would start making sense
   ... recent suggestion of adding geolocation there too

   Kai: not sure we should start a new test for things that fit the
   current model

   Dom: think would be interesting - could use still a visual approach,
   maybe with a different look

   Kai: wouldn't want to abandon WCTMB, though

   Dom: we should still keep maintaining it and preserving it as a
   point of reference in time

   Kai: ok sounds good

   Wilhelm: I can start looking at that

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to look at WCTMB2 ideas [recorded in
   [27]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mwts-minutes.html#action04]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-55 - Look at WCTMB2 ideas [on Wilhelm Joys
   Andersen - due 2009-05-26].

   Kai: so Web Storage stuff would be there, right? will start playing
   with it

   ACTION-55 due 2 weeks

   <trackbot> ACTION-55 Look at WCTMB2 ideas due date now 2 weeks

Blog

   ACTION-46 closed

   <trackbot> ACTION-46 Blog about DITG publication closed

   <dom_scribe> [28]DITG announcement

     [28] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/blog/2009/05/15/making_web_technologies_robus_on_any_dev

   ACTION-50?

   <trackbot> ACTION-50 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to publish
   Carmelo's draft re memory test in the blog -- due 2009-05-19 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [29]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/50

     [29] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/50

   Dom: will publish after our next round of tests

   ACTION-51?

   <trackbot> ACTION-51 -- Kai Hendry to draft a blog post on WTF --
   due 2009-05-19 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [30]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/51

     [30] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/51

   <dom_scribe> [31]Kai's draft post

     [31] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009May/0019.html

   Dom: looked good to me

   Kai: what can I do about images? rather than linking to Flickr

   ACTION-45?

   <trackbot> ACTION-45 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to propose a plan
   for getting contributions from community -- due 2009-05-12 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [32]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/45

     [32] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/45

OMA

   ACTION-21?

   <trackbot> ACTION-21 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to send Opera's
   feedback on OMA test suites -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [33]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21

     [33] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21

   ACTION-14?

   <trackbot> ACTION-14 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look back at
   OMA situation and report -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [34]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/14

     [34] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/14

Next meeting

   Regrets from Carmelo

   Next Meeting on May 26

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Kai to retest memory test with his devices [recorded
   in [35]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
   [NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to draft a blog post on SPARTAN [recorded in
   [36]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mwts-minutes.html#action01]
   [NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to look at WCTMB2 ideas [recorded in
   [37]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
   [NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to retest memory test with his devices
   [recorded in
   [38]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mwts-minutes.html#action03]

   [End of minutes]

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