- From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:34:26 +0100
- To: public-mwts@w3.org
Hi,
The minutes of our call today are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2009/01/13-mwts-minutes.html
linked from
http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/
and copied as text below.
Dom
Mobile Web Test Suites Working Group
13 Jan 2009
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Jan/0004.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/13-mwts-irc
Attendees
Present
dom, Carmelo, Wilhelm, Kai, Dmitri
Chair
Wilhelm
Scribe
dom
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Widgets testing
2. [6]Device independent testing guidelines
3. [7]Memory test
4. [8]Web Compatibility Test
5. [9]Blog
6. [10]Agreement on test suites with OMA
7. [11]Rechartering
8. [12]Next meeting
* [13]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
Widgets testing
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to continue integrating his tests WTF [recorded
in [14]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING]
[14] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02
Kai: Robert hasn't got back to me about that yet
... I've been doing some improvements on the widgets tests
... namely in the XML Digital Signature stuff
... I've also caught up with the updates to the RelaxNG of the spec
Wilhelm: I'll talk to Robert about your questions
Dom: WebApps is asking us comments on Widgets
Packaging/Configuration
Kai: I've sent comments, but not on behalf of the group
Dom: I don't think we need to send formal comments, since Kai is
already sending comments
... Kai, can you make sure to copy the comments to the list, though?
Kai: sure
Wilhelm: Opera has also participants in that group
Device independent testing guidelines
<dom_scribe> [15]Device INdependent testing guidelines
[15] http://dev.w3.org/2008/dev-ind-testing/guidelines.html
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to review the di guidelines [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING]
[16] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action09
Dom: I've started a general rewrite of the document, to show what I
had in mind
... still need to finish going through my categories
<scribe> ACTION: Dmitri to review the DI guidelines [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING]
[17] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action04
Dmitri: I based by comments on the previous version - will send them
Memory test
[18]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Dec/0015.htm
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[18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Dec/0015.html
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to run the memory test on his devices
[recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING]
[19] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to run the memory test on his devices [recorded
in [20]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action08]
[PENDING]
[20] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action08
Dom: started to do that, but didn't really figure out how to make it
work properly
Kai: ease of use could be improved indeed
... The idea is that it is supposed to show the next number in
sequence
Dom: I think it probably didn't work on my palm
Kai: could use a binary search tree
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to implement binary search tree to determin
limits of memory test [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/13-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
Web Compatibility Test
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to push forward with finding a replacement for
the inputmode test [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING]
[22] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action07
<scribe> ACTION: WIhelm to look into replacement for inputmode test
[recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING]
[23] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action05
Kai: one thing that keeps popping up for me is bound to SSL tests
... certificate fragmentation
... I've emailed a guy at Verizon to get an extended certificate for
testing, but haven't heard back
Wilhelm: what particular problems?
Kai: variation among certificate authorities, for instance
... on many devices, you can't inspect the trust roots
... makes it even harder to figure what might be going wrong
... another aspect is that some devices don't implement extended
validation properly
... the first one seems more important to me, though
s/verizon/versign/
scribe: the SSL story on mobile seems a bit weird
Wilhelm: would probably be hard to test in our framework, though
... to get the padlock, you need to have all the loaded items coming
through SSL
... at least in Opera
Kai: my bank site gets a padlock even though they're loading
external javascript stuff
... I'll check it with opera
... any rough idea, Wilhelm?
Wilhelm: thinking around Javascript, DOM, ...
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to look into creating test cases for SSL and
certificates support on mobile [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/13-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
Wilhelm: SSL is not establishing a hierarchy of trust, but a
hierarchy of whom to blame
Blog
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to post an introductory message to the blog
[recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action12] [DONE]
[25] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action12
<dom_scribe> [26]Welcome message in our blog!
[26] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/blog/2009/01/13/welcome
Wilhelm: so you can now publish your post when you want
Kai: will do in a couple of days
... to space them out
Agreement on test suites with OMA
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhem to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites
[recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16]
[PENDING]
[27] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to look back at OMA situation and report
[recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15]
[PENDING]
[28] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15
Rechartering
Dom: Dmitri, Carmelo, make sure your org re-join the group
<dom_scribe> [29]interface to join the group for AC Reps
[29] http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/40010/join
Next meeting
Dom: wilhelm not available next week, and I'll be just back from
travel
Kai: probably not available either
RESOLUTION: Next call on January 27
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Kai to implement binary search tree to determin limits
of memory test [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/13-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: Kai to look into creating test cases for SSL and
certificates support on mobile [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/13-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: Dmitri to review the DI guidelines [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to look back at OMA situation and report
[recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15]
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to review the di guidelines [recorded in
[34]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to run the memory test on his devices
[recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action08]
[PENDING] ACTION: Kai to continue integrating his tests WTF
[recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Kai to push forward with finding a replacement for
the inputmode test [recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: WIhelm to look into replacement for inputmode test
[recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: Wilhelm to run the memory test on his devices
[recorded in
[39]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: Wilhem to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites
[recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16]
[32] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action04
[33] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15
[34] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action09
[35] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action08
[36] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02
[37] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action07
[38] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action05
[39] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07
[40] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16
[DONE] ACTION: Wilhelm to post an introductory message to the blog
[recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action12]
[41] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action12
[End of minutes]
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