- From: Wlodkowski, Thomas <Thomas.Wlodkowski@corp.aol.com>
- Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:25:03 -0500
- To: "Schnabel, Stefan" <stefan.schnabel@sap.com>, "Jon Gunderson" <jongund@uiuc.edu>, "Becky Gibson" <Becky_Gibson@notesdev.ibm.com>, <wai-xtech@w3.org>
I also think the icon attached to the tab or in the tab order may also be helpful. We need to consider cognitive load when talking about keyboard shortcuts. Too many web and software apps to track/memorize. -----Original Message----- From: wai-xtech-request@w3.org [mailto:wai-xtech-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Stefan Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:54 AM To: Jon Gunderson; Becky Gibson; wai-xtech@w3.org Subject: RE: closing a Tab? Jon, better to have a standardized hotkey for closing tab. As a concept we tend to keep tab chains short. Regards Stefan -----Original Message----- From: wai-xtech-request@w3.org [mailto:wai-xtech-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Jon Gunderson Sent: Freitag, 29. Februar 2008 17:32 To: Becky Gibson; wai-xtech@w3.org Subject: Re: closing a Tab? Why can't the close icon be in tab order and the icon can also be part of the label for the tab. Jon ---- Original message ---- >Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:35:21 -0500 >From: "Becky Gibson" <Becky_Gibson@notesdev.ibm.com> >Subject: Re: closing a Tab? >To: wai-xtech@w3.org > > >I implemented a context menu for closable tabs in the dojo tab container. >See the second tab panel example on [1]. The tabs with title "first" and >"third" are closable. Pressing shift-F10 with focus on these tabs will >bring up a context menu with "close". If a tab is closable, pressing the >delete key with focus on the title will delete the tab. I thought this is >what the style guide group had decided upon? Although it would be nice if >there was a way to indicate to the screen reader user that a tab (or any >other item) was deletable without having the use the shift-F10 discovery >mechanism. > >I based my implementation decision on the DHTML Style Guide June 29, 2007 >meeting minutes [2]: >TW: options other than DELETE - CTRL+F4 a possibility, have >to get comments on that - what we are saying is context menu and keyboard >shortcut combo fine - great if had property so didn't have to use context >menu, but maybe that's phase 2 >So perhaps we made a decision but just didn't record it in the style >guide? >[1] >http://archive.dojotoolkit.org/nightly/dojotoolkit/dijit/tests/layout/t est_TabContainer.html >[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2007Jun/0130.html > >Becky Gibson >Web Accessibility Architect > >IBM Emerging Internet Technologies >5 Technology Park Drive >Westford, MA 01886 >Voice: 978 399-6101; t/l 333-6101 >Email: gibsonb@us.ibm.com >blog: WebA11y > > >wai-xtech-request@w3.org wrote on 02/28/2008 03:06:06 PM: > >> >> >> In the Best Practices we have a dangling question: >> >> <quote >> cite="http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-practices/#TabPanel"> >> >> Unresolved at time of port from DHTML wiki: How to indicate that a >> tab panel can be deleted? Visually a close icon can be provided in >> the upper right hand corner of the tab which the user can click on to >> delete the tab panel. Putting this close icon in the navigation >> sequence would make extra navigation. Is there some way to indicate >> to a non-visual user that a tab panel can be deleted with a defined >> keystroke? Perhaps we can capture ctrl-w (the key used in Firefox and >> IE 7) to close a tab? T * here is still the issue of the user knowing >> that the tab is closable or not. Another option is to provide a >> context menu. With focus on the tab title the user would press shift- >> F10 to invoke a context menu - the context menu would have the close >> option. In both of these cases if the tab can not be closed, it still >> needs to capture the keystroke so that it doesn't get bubbled up and >> handled by the browser. Retrieved from "http://www.weba11y.com/ >> styleguide/index.php?title=Tab_Panel" >> >> </quote> >> >> Don, >> >> Could you get this on the agenda for the Style >> Guide Group to suggest a preferred user experience? >> >> Al >> >> /satisfying ACTION-101 >> >> PS: I didn't immediately find an answer at >> http://dev.aol.com/dhtml_style_guide#tabpanel >> > > > Jon Gunderson, Ph.D. Coordinator Information Technology Accessibility Disability Resources and Educational Services Rehabilitation Education Center Room 86 1207 S. Oak Street Champaign, Illinois 61821 Voice: (217) 244-5870 WWW: http://www.cita.uiuc.edu/ WWW: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/jongund/www/
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