ACTION-54

ask PF WG to look at drafted text for HTML 5 spec to require producers/authors to include @alt on img elements

State:
closed
Person:
Chris Wilson
Due on:
2008-09-26
Created on:
2008-02-21
Associated Issue:
missing-alt
Related emails:
  1. Re: Mandatory and Important (from laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com on 2008-08-22)
  2. Re: alt attribute - a very simple proposal (from laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com on 2008-08-19)
  3. {minutes} HTML WG telcon 2008-07-31 (from connolly@w3.org on 2008-07-31)
  4. {minutes} HTML WG issue-tracking telcon 2008-06-26 (from mike@w3.org on 2008-07-09)
  5. {minutes} HTML WG issue-tracking telcon 2008-06-12 (from mike@w3.org on 2008-06-19)
  6. {minutes} HTML WG issue-tracking telcon 2008-06-05 (from mike@w3.org on 2008-06-06)
  7. Re: omitting alt: closing an open issue with a bound action item in progress (from faulkner.steve@gmail.com on 2008-04-11)
  8. Re: omitting alt: closing an open issue with a bound action item in progress (from connolly@w3.org on 2008-04-11)
  9. Re: omitting alt: closing an open issue with a bound action item in progress (from faulkner.steve@gmail.com on 2008-04-11)
  10. Re: omitting alt: closing an open issue with a bound action item in progress (from connolly@w3.org on 2008-04-11)
  11. {minutes} HTML WG issue-tracking telcon 2008-04-10/11 (from mike@w3.org on 2008-04-11)
  12. {minutes} 2008-04-03 HTML WG telcon (from mike@w3.org on 2008-04-04)
  13. {minutes} 2008-03-27 HTML WG issue-tracking call (from mike@w3.org on 2008-03-28)
  14. minutes HTML WG weekly 21 Feb (from connolly@w3.org on 2008-03-09)

Related notes:

2008-03-27 15:31:05: ACTIONS TAKEN:

1. Steve Faulkner: submitted request to PF WG for clarification of normative language use (25 March 2008)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Mar/0234.html



[Gregory Rosmaita]

2008-03-27 23:24:02: re-opening; pending comments from PF. [Chris Wilson]

2008-04-17 22:40:09: Steve F reported 17 Apr that he's inclined to look at more research rather than drafting edits [Dan Connolly]

2008-05-08 16:24:12: 2008-05-08
* draft text: http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/misc/uc/
* email: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008May/0121.html

[Gregory Rosmaita]

2008-05-08 23:18:38: pending discussion on the list. [Chris Wilson]

2008-05-10 23:57:45: THREAD: "HTML Action 54 - ...draft text..."

* Steve Faulkner:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008May/0121.html
* Justin James:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008May/0129.html
* Ian Hickson:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008May/0130.html
* Steven Faulkner:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008May/0151.html
* Justin James:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008May/0158.html
* Sam Kuper:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008May/0160.html
* Robert J. Burns:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008May/0164.html
* Justin James:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008May/0165.html
* Sam Kuper:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008May/0178.html
* John Foliot:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008May/0166.html
* Ian Hickson:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008May/0170.html
* Justin James:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008May/0173.html
* Robert J. Burns:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008May/0177.html


THREAD: "Discussion Action 54: First Draft of the rewrite..."

* Laura Carlson:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008May/0154.html
* David Poehlman:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008May/0159.html
Katie Haritos-Shea:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008May/0161.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008May/0172.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008May/0174.html
[Gregory Rosmaita]

2008-05-12 16:32:15: INTERACTIVE RESOURCES ON ESW WIKI RELATING TO ACTION 54:

1. Action 54: First Draft:
* http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/Action54AltAttribute

2. Discussion Page for Action 54:
* http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/Action54AltAttributeDiscussion

[Gregory Rosmaita]

2008-05-15 16:12:05: there is a wiki version of the First Draft of Action Item 54 on the ESW wiki:

http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/Action54AltAttribute

the authors of the proposed rewording have requested that the HTML WG provide feedback on the proposed rewording by 22 MAY 2008 -- please post your comments to the public-html list and (optimally) add your comments to:

http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/Action54AltAttributeDiscussion [Gregory Rosmaita]

2008-06-05 16:12:57: update from LAURA CARLSON:

We have started work on a second draft for Action 54:
* http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/Action54AltAttributeSecondDraft

We are still waiting for a reply from PFWG for this action item regarding several issues:
* http://tinyurl.com/48uyqv
* http://tinyurl.com/3v68tn

We are beginning to incorporate First Draft Comments:
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/Action54AltAttributeDiscussion

One of the biggest changes is that we have removed the majority of the
usage examples and code samples. Usage examples and code samples from
the Action 54 first draft are being refined and most have now been
submitted as Techniques for WCAG 2.0. If they are accepted, the action
54 document will link to them there. As Jason said in his comment, a
format specification is not a tutorial. Including detailed guidance in
ALT attribute techniques could be seen as usurping the role of WCAG
2.0 and its techniques documents. PF has also pointed out, "WCAG WG is
chartered to set Accessibility guidelines and HTML WG is not".
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Feb/0082.html
The W3C Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) is the accessibility authority.

Submission for WCAG 2.0. Techniques
* http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/TECHS-SUBMIT/

Action 54 first draft
* http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/Action54AltAttribute [Gregory Rosmaita]

2008-06-26 16:10:32: discussion in progress with PF group. [Chris Wilson]

2008-07-10 16:19:52: waiting for PFWG feedback [Michael(tm) Smith]

2008-07-17 16:09:57: Need to contact PF and get timeline for review. [Chris Wilson]

2008-08-23 10:38:26: Action 54 Third Draft:
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/Action54AltAttributeThirdDraft
Related email on regarding using a minimalist approach:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Aug/0437.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008May/0249.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Apr/0555.html [Joshue O Connor]

2008-09-25 16:19:23: Gregory coming back next week with info from PF. [Chris Wilson]

Changelog:

2008-02-21 17:46:09: Created action 'Work with SteveF draft text for HTML 5 spec to require producers/authors to include @alt on img elements' assigned to Gregory Rosmaita, due 2008-02-28

2008-03-27 15:31:05: Due date changed to 2008-04-02

2008-03-27 15:31:05: Status changed to 'pending review'

2008-03-27 15:31:05: Action now bound to ISSUE-31

2008-03-27 23:24:02: Due date changed to 2008-04-10

2008-03-27 23:24:02: Status changed to 'open'

2008-03-27 23:25:07: Status changed to 'open'

2008-03-27 23:25:14: Status changed to 'open'

2008-03-27 23:25:56: Status changed to 'open'

2008-03-27 23:26:04: Status changed to 'open'

2008-03-27 23:27:41: Status changed to 'open'

2008-04-03 13:23:29: Status changed to 'open'

2008-04-03 13:26:57: Status changed to 'open'

2008-04-10 23:17:57: Due date changed to 2008-04-17

2008-04-11 17:20:04: Action now bound to ISSUE-31

2008-04-17 22:39:07: Status changed to 'closed'

2008-05-08 16:24:12: Due date changed to 2008-05-08

2008-05-08 16:24:12: Status changed to 'pending review'

2008-05-08 23:18:38: Due date changed to 2008-05-15

2008-05-11 00:08:14: Due date changed to 2008-05-29

2008-05-15 16:16:34: Status changed to 'open'

2008-06-05 16:27:01: Due date changed to 2008-06-19

2008-06-05 16:27:01: Status changed to 'pending review'

2008-06-26 16:10:32: Owner changed to '' [Chris Wilson]

2008-06-26 16:10:32: Due date changed to 2008-07-10 [Chris Wilson]

2008-07-10 16:19:52: Owner changed to '' [Michael(tm) Smith]

2008-07-10 16:19:52: Due date changed to 2008-07-17 [Michael(tm) Smith]

2008-07-17 16:09:43: title changed to 'ask PF WG to look at drafted text for HTML 5 spec to require producers/authors to include @alt on img elements' [Dan Connolly]

2008-07-17 16:09:43: Owner changed to 'Chris Wilson' [Dan Connolly]

2008-07-17 16:09:43: Status changed to 'open' [Dan Connolly]

2008-07-17 16:09:57: title changed to 'Work with SteveF draft text for HTML 5 spec to require producers/authors to include @alt on img elements' [Chris Wilson]

2008-07-17 16:09:57: Due date changed to 2008-07-24 [Chris Wilson]

2008-07-17 16:09:57: Status changed to 'pending review' [Chris Wilson]

2008-07-17 16:10:00: title changed to 'ask PF WG to look at drafted text for HTML 5 spec to require producers/authors to include @alt on img elements' [Dan Connolly]

2008-07-17 16:10:00: Status changed to 'open' [Dan Connolly]

2008-07-30 22:34:12: Due date changed to 2008-07-31 [Chris Wilson]

2008-07-31 16:16:03: Due date changed to 2008-08-06 [Chris Wilson]

2008-08-07 16:15:43: Due date changed to 2008-08-20 [Chris Wilson]

2008-08-21 16:30:13: Due date changed to 2008-08-29 [Michael(tm) Smith]

2008-09-04 11:17:41: Due date changed to 2008-09-10 [Chris Wilson]

2008-09-10 22:02:14: Due date changed to 2008-09-25 [Chris Wilson]

2008-09-25 03:54:35: Due date changed to 2008-09-26 [Chris Wilson]

2008-09-25 16:19:23: Status changed to 'closed' [Chris Wilson]


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