eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference

Minutes of 03 September 2010

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2010Sep/0003.html
Present
Brand Niemann, Cory Casanave, Gannon Dick, Michael Hausenblas, Sandro Hawke, Ted Thibodeau
Chair
Michael Hausenblas
Scribe
Sandro Hawke
IRC Log
Original and Editable Wiki Version
Resolutions

None.

Topics
  1. Admin

  2. Roadmap: GLD Challenge

    We will try to assemble a challenge or contest which motivates and highlights the development of linked data applications

<sandro> Present: Brand_Niemann, Cory_Casanave, Gannon_Dick, Michael_Hausenblas, Sandro_Hawke, Ted_Thibodeau
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11:56:18 <trackbot> Meeting: eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference
11:56:18 <trackbot> Date: 03 September 2010
11:56:38 <mhausenblas> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2010Sep/0003.html
11:56:42 <mhausenblas> Chair: Michael
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11:58:16 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(LD Demo)8:00AM has now started

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11:58:23 <Zakim> +mhausenblas

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11:58:27 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, who's here?

11:58:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see mhausenblas

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11:58:28 <Zakim> On IRC I see gdick, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, tlr-bbl, Ted, edsu, sandro, trackbot

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11:58:50 <mhausenblas> Topic: Admin

1. Admin

11:59:34 <Zakim> +Cory

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12:02:06 <Zakim> + +1.703.268.aaaa

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12:02:10 <Zakim> + +1.617.838.aabb

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12:02:30 <Ted> Zakim, aabb is me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, aabb is me

12:02:30 <Zakim> +Ted; got it

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12:02:53 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, who's here?

12:02:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, +1.703.268.aaaa, Ted

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12:02:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see cory, gdick, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, tlr-bbl, Ted, edsu, sandro, trackbot

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12:03:54 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aaaa is Brand

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12:03:54 <Zakim> +Brand; got it

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12:03:57 <Zakim> + +1.508.333.aacc

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12:04:19 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aacc is gdick

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12:04:20 <Zakim> +gdick; got it

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12:04:25 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?

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12:04:25 <Zakim> On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, Ted, gdick

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12:04:27 <Zakim> On IRC I see cory, gdick, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, tlr-bbl, Ted, edsu, sandro, trackbot

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12:04:38 <mhausenblas> sandro, will you join in?

Michael Hausenblas: sandro, will you join in?

12:05:37 <sandro> d'oh, lost track of time.

Sandro Hawke: d'oh, lost track of time.

12:05:43 <sandro> zakim, who is here?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is here?

12:05:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, Ted, gdick

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12:05:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see cory, gdick, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, tlr-bbl, Ted, edsu, sandro, trackbot

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12:06:00 <sandro> zakim, what is the code?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, what is the code?

12:06:00 <Zakim> the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), sandro

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12:06:06 <mhausenblas> open actions are at http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/track/actions/open

Michael Hausenblas: open actions are at http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/track/actions/open

12:06:20 <Zakim> +Sandro

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12:06:37 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

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12:06:48 <mhausenblas> Topic: Roadmap: GLD Challenge

2. Roadmap: GLD Challenge

Summary: We will try to assemble a challenge or contest which motivates and highlights the development of linked data applications

<> summary: We will try to assemble a challenge or contest which motivates and highlights the development of linked data applications
12:08:00 <sandro> scribe: sandro

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12:08:47 <sandro> mhausenblas: The idea is to get other people to do demos, for example a Challenge, from W3C, perhaps supported by DERI

Michael Hausenblas: The idea is to get other people to do demos, for example a Challenge, from W3C, perhaps supported by DERI

12:09:08 <sandro> ... maybe some sort of prize, which helps get public attention

... maybe some sort of prize, which helps get public attention

12:09:24 <sandro> ... should one do this?   how restricted might it be?

... should one do this? how restricted might it be?

12:09:38 <sandro> zakim, who is here?

zakim, who is here?

12:09:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, Ted, gdick, Sandro

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12:09:40 <Zakim> On IRC I see cory, gdick, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, tlr-bbl, Ted, edsu, sandro, trackbot

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12:10:05 <sandro> cory: There's been a couple other challenges.   "Triplify"

Cory Casanave: There's been a couple other challenges. "Triplify"

12:10:21 <sandro> mhausenblas: I participated, recently one something (with a colleague)

Michael Hausenblas: I participated, recently one something (with a colleague)

12:10:40 <sandro> cory: another one...   trying to remember...  promoted through the white house.

Cory Casanave: another one... trying to remember... promoted through the white house.

12:11:10 <sandro> cory: be aware there are other things with similar names, similar initiatives.

Cory Casanave: be aware there are other things with similar names, similar initiatives.

12:11:27 <sandro> mhausenblas: most I know of are about publishing data, or doing something (like reasoning) with the data

Michael Hausenblas: most I know of are about publishing data, or doing something (like reasoning) with the data

12:11:33 <cory> http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/assets/memoranda_2010/m10-11.pdf

Cory Casanave: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/assets/memoranda_2010/m10-11.pdf

12:11:58 <sandro> mhausenblas: I'm not aware of ones around *applications*..   There aren't a lot of apps which make use of open gov't information

Michael Hausenblas: I'm not aware of ones around *applications*.. There aren't a lot of apps which make use of open gov't information

12:12:15 <sandro> ... something to make clear the benefits of Open Data, preferably Linked Open Data

... something to make clear the benefits of Open Data, preferably Linked Open Data

12:13:31 <sandro> mhausenblas: shall I draft something?

Michael Hausenblas: shall I draft something?

12:13:49 <sandro> sandro: How about drafting a possible announcement/rules

Sandro Hawke: How about drafting a possible announcement/rules

12:14:05 <trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. maisenbe, mhausenb)

Trackbot IRC Bot: Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. maisenbe, mhausenb)

12:14:08 <sandro> cory: It'll be abstract if you don't point at something specifically?

Cory Casanave: It'll be abstract if you don't point at something specifically?

12:14:18 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Hausenblas to draft a strawman call incl. rules, goals, etc

ACTION: Hausenblas to draft a strawman call incl. rules, goals, etc

12:14:18 <trackbot> Created ACTION-111 - Draft a strawman call incl. rules, goals, etc [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2010-09-10].

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12:14:30 <sandro> cory: Point at specific data sets?

Cory Casanave: Point at specific data sets?

12:15:05 <sandro> mhausenblas: I'd focus on gov't data, but it should be linked.

Michael Hausenblas: I'd focus on gov't data, but it should be linked.

12:15:52 <sandro> cory: I would suggest we not limit it, but express it such that a linked data solution would show its stuff, so it helps demonstrate the value

Cory Casanave: I would suggest we not limit it, but express it such that a linked data solution would show its stuff, so it helps demonstrate the value

12:16:06 <sandro> sandro: that's very brave

Sandro Hawke: that's very brave

12:16:11 <sandro>  :-)

:-)

12:17:25 <sandro> sandro: maybe require data to at least be converted, in an open way, to Linked Data

Sandro Hawke: maybe require data to at least be converted, in an open way, to Linked Data

12:17:40 <sandro> cory: Could at least label it G L D challenge

Cory Casanave: Could at least label it G L D challenge

12:17:55 <sandro> mhausenblas: Could have it open, but have two tracks

Michael Hausenblas: Could have it open, but have two tracks

12:18:06 <sandro> mhausenblas: Or use timbl's five-star plan

Michael Hausenblas: Or use timbl's five-star plan

12:18:20 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?

zakim, who is on the call?

12:18:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, Ted, gdick (muted), Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, Ted, gdick (muted), Sandro

12:18:56 <sandro> mhausenblas: Whatever helps attract as many people as possible

Michael Hausenblas: Whatever helps attract as many people as possible

12:19:20 <sandro> cory: I would not be surprised if some govt agencies were interested

Cory Casanave: I would not be surprised if some govt agencies were interested

12:20:14 <sandro> cory: middle ground -- data sets leveraging each other, without pushing the technology too hard

Cory Casanave: middle ground -- data sets leveraging each other, without pushing the technology too hard

12:20:41 <sandro> mhausenblas: rules: it has to be publicly available, on the web, without needing to install something.

Michael Hausenblas: rules: it has to be publicly available, on the web, without needing to install something.

12:21:02 <sandro> mhausenblas: I think of oData, where you are often restricted to certain software.

Michael Hausenblas: I think of oData, where you are often restricted to certain software.

12:21:10 <sandro> mhausenblas: it should work in any browser.

Michael Hausenblas: it should work in any browser.

12:21:50 <sandro> mhausenblas: then a question of doing the assessment -- judges, and maybe public voting.

Michael Hausenblas: then a question of doing the assessment -- judges, and maybe public voting.

12:22:06 <sandro> sandro: or two prizes -- "people's choice" and judges prize.

Sandro Hawke: or two prizes -- "people's choice" and judges prize.

12:22:53 <sandro> mhausenblas: DERI can sponsor this, but sometimes it's a bit plain to have the money ....   what other motivations would there be,    ... show your work.

Michael Hausenblas: DERI can sponsor this, but sometimes it's a bit plain to have the money .... what other motivations would there be, ... show your work.

12:23:02 <sandro> mhausenblas: bragging rights are quite valuable

Michael Hausenblas: bragging rights are quite valuable

12:23:15 <sandro> mhausenblas: also for gov't agencies

Michael Hausenblas: also for gov't agencies

12:24:02 <sandro> mhausenblas: make sure it has strong backing and exposure, eg White house

Michael Hausenblas: make sure it has strong backing and exposure, eg White house

12:24:45 <sandro> sandro: selection of judges shows this

Sandro Hawke: selection of judges shows this

12:24:58 <sandro> cory: purchasing power, technical expertise

Cory Casanave: purchasing power, technical expertise

12:25:23 <sandro> mhausenblas: Couple this with some event, eg Gov2.0

Michael Hausenblas: Couple this with some event, eg Gov2.0

12:25:35 <sandro> mhausenblas: Is there something international?

Michael Hausenblas: Is there something international?

12:26:09 <sandro> cory: United Nations Open Data event?

Cory Casanave: United Nations Open Data event?

12:26:41 <sandro> sandro: Yeah, offhand O'Reilly Gov 2.0 might be best, but it's very American

Sandro Hawke: Yeah, offhand O'Reilly Gov 2.0 might be best, but it's very American

12:27:16 <sandro> cory: Be sure there is a clear mark they can put on their marketing materials, a cool looking seal.

Cory Casanave: Be sure there is a clear mark they can put on their marketing materials, a cool looking seal.

12:27:54 <sandro> mhausenblas: Okay, I can certainly put something on the wiki page to start this

Michael Hausenblas: Okay, I can certainly put something on the wiki page to start this

12:28:21 <sandro> mhausenblas: It sounds like we want to proceed with this

Michael Hausenblas: It sounds like we want to proceed with this

12:28:43 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?

zakim, who is on the call?

12:28:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, Ted, gdick (muted), Sandro

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12:29:06 <cory> Also, an international company sponsor like google may help

Cory Casanave: Also, an international company sponsor like google may help

12:29:11 <sandro> sandro: How about you other folks, who have been quiet?

Sandro Hawke: How about you other folks, who have been quiet?

12:29:45 <mhausenblas> http://www.google.com/publicdata/directory

Michael Hausenblas: http://www.google.com/publicdata/directory

12:29:57 <sandro> mhausenblas: I might have a contact with Google that could be helpful in involving them.

Michael Hausenblas: I might have a contact with Google that could be helpful in involving them.

12:30:35 <sandro> brand: I've been working at this from the angle of data science, and data-as-product, within my agency.

Brand Niemann: I've been working at this from the angle of data science, and data-as-product, within my agency.

12:31:14 <sandro> ... At the SemWeb meetup in NYC, with Deb McGuinness and Peter Fox, Govt Open Scientific Data, ... I've been talking to Peter, and Jim Hendler.

... At the SemWeb meetup in NYC, with Deb McGuinness and Peter Fox, Govt Open Scientific Data, ... I've been talking to Peter, and Jim Hendler.

12:31:31 <sandro> ... WebScience is good, but I thing DataScience is bigger and more important

... WebScience is good, but I thing DataScience is bigger and more important

12:32:02 <sandro> ... Tim O'Reilly commissioned an article on DataScience.   I linked to it.     Data as a product, is the real thing.   Of which LOD is a subset.

... Tim O'Reilly commissioned an article on DataScience. I linked to it. Data as a product, is the real thing. Of which LOD is a subset.

12:32:17 <sandro> ... I'm getting that to resonate

... I'm getting that to resonate

12:32:49 <sandro> mhausenblas: I wouldn't exclude that.      I want to see how people use the data

Michael Hausenblas: I wouldn't exclude that. I want to see how people use the data

12:33:10 <sandro> mhausenblas: not just technical, but social

Michael Hausenblas: not just technical, but social

12:33:19 <sandro> mhausenblas: focus on what we can achieve

Michael Hausenblas: focus on what we can achieve

12:33:50 <sandro> brand: I couldn't agree more.   I've been using SpotFire with s-plus.

Brand Niemann: I couldn't agree more. I've been using SpotFire with s-plus.

12:34:21 <sandro> brand: Kingsley has been interested, and started a dialog with TIBCO about making SpotFire handle linked data.

Brand Niemann: Kingsley has been interested, and started a dialog with TIBCO about making SpotFire handle linked data.

12:34:42 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, who's here?

12:34:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, Ted, gdick, Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, Ted, gdick, Sandro

12:34:43 <Zakim> On IRC I see cory, gdick, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, tlr, edsu, sandro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see cory, gdick, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, tlr, edsu, sandro, trackbot

12:34:58 <sandro> ... I needed a tool that sits on a triplestore to look at the data

... I needed a tool that sits on a triplestore to look at the data

12:35:03 <sandro> ... OpenLink?

... OpenLink?

12:35:13 <sandro> mhausenblas: Ted?    Are you still here?

Michael Hausenblas: Ted? Are you still here?

12:36:00 <sandro> Ted: I'm not familiar with that particular effort, but certainly OpenLink is very interested in consumer and consumable interfaces to this stuff.    Our strength is in the back end, but we're still itnerested.

Ted Thibodeau: I'm not familiar with that particular effort, but certainly OpenLink is very interested in consumer and consumable interfaces to this stuff. Our strength is in the back end, but we're still itnerested.

12:36:19 <sandro> ted: on the challenge: let's talk about the things that can't easily be answered without linked data

Ted Thibodeau: on the challenge: let's talk about the things that can't easily be answered without linked data

12:37:11 <sandro> ted: eg recent economic termoil ... the bad loans were untraceable through securitizations.   Similar questions to be asked...   Where else has this candidate been active, what are their connections?   A lot of this is public record.

Ted Thibodeau: eg recent economic termoil ... the bad loans were untraceable through securitizations. Similar questions to be asked... Where else has this candidate been active, what are their connections? A lot of this is public record.

12:37:33 <sandro> ... a lot of this is out there, but hard to track back.

... a lot of this is out there, but hard to track back.

12:38:01 <sandro> ... lots of interesting connections between candidates

... lots of interesting connections between candidates

12:38:18 <sandro> mhausenblas: re SpotFire, can you report back on this, or invite Kingsley

Michael Hausenblas: re SpotFire, can you report back on this, or invite Kingsley

12:38:23 <sandro> ted: sure

Ted Thibodeau: sure

12:38:40 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Ted to gather info re SpotFire (Kingsley)

ACTION: Ted to gather info re SpotFire (Kingsley)

12:38:41 <trackbot> Created ACTION-112 - Gather info re SpotFire (Kingsley) [on Ted Thibodeau - due 2010-09-10].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-112 - Gather info re SpotFire (Kingsley) [on Ted Thibodeau - due 2010-09-10].

12:39:01 <sandro> mhausenblas: Nice examples, subprime, candidates

Michael Hausenblas: Nice examples, subprime, candidates

12:39:17 <sandro> mhausenblas: Good examples for contest

Michael Hausenblas: Good examples for contest

12:39:37 <sandro> mhausenblas: maybe you can write them down on the wiki

Michael Hausenblas: maybe you can write them down on the wiki

12:40:16 <sandro> ted: As valuable to expose the gaps as to show the final solution.    Show the GAPS in the linkage.    We know this is in a gov't data some place.

Ted Thibodeau: As valuable to expose the gaps as to show the final solution. Show the GAPS in the linkage. We know this is in a gov't data some place.

12:40:28 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, who's here?

12:40:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, Ted, gdick, Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, Ted, gdick, Sandro

12:40:30 <Zakim> On IRC I see cory, gdick, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, tlr, edsu, sandro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see cory, gdick, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, tlr, edsu, sandro, trackbot

12:41:03 <sandro> gdick: I've heard a lot of good ideas.   I like the idea about the scientific data.   A lot of it is so old it hasn't been linked.   I'm willing to work on that.    Doing weather and astronomy data.

Gannon Dick: I've heard a lot of good ideas. I like the idea about the scientific data. A lot of it is so old it hasn't been linked. I'm willing to work on that. Doing weather and astronomy data.

12:41:11 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

Michael Hausenblas: RRSAgent, draft minutes

12:41:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/03-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/03-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas

12:41:26 <sandro> gdick: national map is a wonderful thing, but it's imposing, so little maps are good

Gannon Dick: national map is a wonderful thing, but it's imposing, so little maps are good

12:41:51 <sandro> gdick: Data that's out there, 20 years ago, still very valuable, just needs to be resurected.

Gannon Dick: Data that's out there, 20 years ago, still very valuable, just needs to be resurected.

12:42:52 <sandro> mhausenblas: Something we discussed here in Ireland...   noticed this is mostly driven by developers, not business need.    How to turn tech-driven to more business stuff?

Michael Hausenblas: Something we discussed here in Ireland... noticed this is mostly driven by developers, not business need. How to turn tech-driven to more business stuff?

12:43:18 <sandro> mhausenblas: It could be we don't just ask for apps, but also ask for apps that can be transitioned to business driven.

Michael Hausenblas: It could be we don't just ask for apps, but also ask for apps that can be transitioned to business driven.

12:43:42 <sandro> mhausenblas: right now, often driven by what data is out there.

Michael Hausenblas: right now, often driven by what data is out there.

12:44:02 <sandro> sandro: suggestion board

Sandro Hawke: suggestion board

12:44:17 <sandro> ... what's your dream app

... what's your dream app

12:44:31 <mhausenblas> http://lab.linkeddata.deri.ie/b2d/

Michael Hausenblas: http://lab.linkeddata.deri.ie/b2d/

12:44:38 <sandro> cory: make that part of the challenge ... what's the best dream?

Cory Casanave: make that part of the challenge ... what's the best dream?

12:46:39 <sandro> sandro: maybe require or reward number of data sources.   Minimum?

Sandro Hawke: maybe require or reward number of data sources. Minimum?

12:47:02 <sandro> mhausenblas: Yes, minimum 2, grading criteria rewards having many data sets.

Michael Hausenblas: Yes, minimum 2, grading criteria rewards having many data sets.

12:47:39 <sandro> sandro: maybe the judges can take into effect that the system is designed to work with many data sets, if they were available.

Sandro Hawke: maybe the judges can take into effect that the system is designed to work with many data sets, if they were available.

12:47:57 <sandro> mhausenblas: let's meet on a weekly basis.

Michael Hausenblas: let's meet on a weekly basis.

12:48:14 <sandro> sandro: regrets for next week, but in general weekly make sense.

Sandro Hawke: regrets for next week, but in general weekly make sense.

12:48:20 <cory> Thanks Micheal!

Cory Casanave: Thanks Micheal!

12:48:23 <sandro> ADJOURN

ADJOURN

12:48:26 <Zakim> -Brand

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12:48:31 <Zakim> -Sandro

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12:48:32 <Zakim> -mhausenblas

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12:48:34 <Zakim> -gdick

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12:48:38 <Zakim> -Ted

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12:48:42 <Zakim> -Cory

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12:48:43 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(LD Demo)8:00AM has ended

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12:48:45 <Zakim> Attendees were mhausenblas, Cory, +1.703.268.aaaa, +1.617.838.aabb, Ted, Brand, +1.508.333.aacc, gdick, Sandro

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12:48:49 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

Michael Hausenblas: RRSAgent, draft minutes

12:48:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/03-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas

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12:49:31 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

Michael Hausenblas: RRSAgent, draft minutes

12:49:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/03-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas

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12:49:48 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, bye

Michael Hausenblas: RRSAgent, bye

12:49:48 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/03-egov-actions.rdf :

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12:49:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Hausenblas to draft a strawman call incl. rules, goals, etc [2]

ACTION: Hausenblas to draft a strawman call incl. rules, goals, etc [2]

12:49:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/03-egov-irc#T12-14-18

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12:49:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ted to gather info re SpotFire (Kingsley) [3]

ACTION: Ted to gather info re SpotFire (Kingsley) [3]

12:49:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/03-egov-irc#T12-38-40

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