eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference

Minutes of 11 February 2010

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/LD_Outreach_Meeting_Febuary_11,_2010
Present
Cory Casanave, Hugh Glaser, Brand Niemann, Michael Hausenblas
Chair
Cory Casanave
Scribe
Michael Hausenblas
IRC Log
Original and Editable Wiki Version
Resolutions

None.

Topics
<mh> Present: Cory, HughG, Brand, mh
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15:59:36 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aabb is me

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16:00:15 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?

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16:00:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.703.880.aaaa, mhausenblas

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16:00:16 <Zakim> On IRC I see hg, Cory, mhausenblas, RRSAgent, Zakim, trackbot, sandro

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16:00:16 <Cory> Zakim, aaaa is Cory

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16:02:12 <hg> 17894 is hg

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16:02:46 <mhausenblas> trackbot, status?

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16:02:57 <mhausenblas> trackbot, start telecon

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16:03:01 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV

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16:03:01 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see T&S_EGOV(LD Tech)10:00AM already started

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16:03:02 <trackbot> Meeting: eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference
16:03:02 <trackbot> Date: 11 February 2010
16:03:48 <mhausenblas> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/LD_Outreach_Meeting_Febuary_11,_2010
16:03:53 <mhausenblas> Chair: Cory
16:03:59 <mhausenblas> scribenick: mhausenblas

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16:04:03 <hg> Zakim, aacc is me

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16:04:03 <Zakim> +hg; got it

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16:04:20 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?

Zakim, who's here?

16:04:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see Cory, mhausenblas, hg (muted)

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16:04:21 <Zakim> On IRC I see hg, Cory, mhausenblas, RRSAgent, Zakim, trackbot, sandro

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16:04:42 <Zakim> + +1.202.236.aaee

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16:05:55 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

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16:06:01 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, make logs public

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16:06:57 <mhausenblas> Cory: welcome all

Cory Casanave: welcome all

16:07:09 <mhausenblas> ... I volunteered to chair this project

... I volunteered to chair this project

16:07:22 <mhausenblas> ... covering LD strategies and technologies

... covering LD strategies and technologies

16:08:11 <mhausenblas> ... this should be a forum to exchange stuff re LD publishing in the governmental area

... this should be a forum to exchange stuff re LD publishing in the governmental area

16:09:24 <mhausenblas> Mh: Post-doc at DERI, coordinator of  http://linkeddata.deri.ie/

Michael Hausenblas: Post-doc at DERI, coordinator of http://linkeddata.deri.ie/

16:10:06 <mhausenblas> hg: researcher at Southampton, created RKB explorer, responsible for sameas.org

Hugh Glaser: researcher at Southampton, created RKB explorer, responsible for sameas.org

16:10:18 <mhausenblas> ... lots of co-reference stuff, actually

... lots of co-reference stuff, actually

16:11:02 <hg> http://sameas.org/ http://rkbexplorer.com/

Hugh Glaser: http://sameas.org/ http://rkbexplorer.com/

16:11:29 <mhausenblas> Brendan (?): worked with Cory, at US environmental protection agency

Brendan (?): worked with Cory, at US environmental protection agency

16:11:47 <mhausenblas> ... background with spreadsheets, interest in LD

... background with spreadsheets, interest in LD

16:12:10 <mhausenblas> ... working on FOSS Web spreadsheet tool

... working on FOSS Web spreadsheet tool

16:12:41 <mhausenblas> hg: Michael and I are interested in LD metadata, see http://semanticweb.org/wiki/VoiD

Hugh Glaser: Michael and I are interested in LD metadata, see http://semanticweb.org/wiki/VoiD

16:13:15 <mhausenblas> Cory: interest also in modeldriven.org (?)

Cory Casanave: interest also in modeldriven.org (?)

16:13:20 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?

Zakim, who's here?

16:13:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see Cory, mhausenblas, hg, +1.202.236.aaee

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16:13:21 <Zakim> On IRC I see hg, Cory, mhausenblas, RRSAgent, Zakim, trackbot, sandro

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16:13:43 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

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16:13:57 <Cory> In the future meetings will be at 10am

Cory Casanave: In the future meetings will be at 10am

16:14:16 <Cory> Brand Neiman

Cory Casanave: Brand Neiman

16:14:35 <mhausenblas> s/Brendan (?)/Brand

s/Brendan (?)/Brand

16:14:39 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

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16:15:00 <mhausenblas> Zakim, list attendees

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16:15:00 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +1.703.880.aaaa, +3539149aabb, mhausenblas, Cory, +0789422aacc, +0012aadd, hg, +1.202.236.aaee

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16:15:33 <mhausenblas> present+ Cory

present+ Cory

16:15:37 <mhausenblas> present+ Hugh

present+ Hugh

16:15:42 <mhausenblas> present+ Brand

present+ Brand

16:15:46 <mhausenblas> present+ Michael

present+ Michael

16:16:20 <mhausenblas> Cory: collect resources regarding LD in eGov on the Web

Cory Casanave: collect resources regarding LD in eGov on the Web

16:16:47 <mhausenblas> Mh: we could use http://linkeddata.deri.ie/node/72 as an input

Michael Hausenblas: we could use http://linkeddata.deri.ie/node/72 as an input

16:17:01 <mhausenblas> Cory: gather success stories

Cory Casanave: gather success stories

16:17:31 <hg> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/Linked_Data

Hugh Glaser: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/Linked_Data

16:17:46 <hg> is that it?

Hugh Glaser: is that it?

16:19:00 <mhausenblas> Cory: let's start collecting references first, yes

Cory Casanave: let's start collecting references first, yes

16:19:54 <mhausenblas> hg: should we also consider collecting resources concerning the issues?

Hugh Glaser: should we also consider collecting resources concerning the issues?

16:20:23 <mhausenblas> Cory: sort of a catalogue of catalogues

Cory Casanave: sort of a catalogue of catalogues

16:21:12 <mhausenblas> hg: bit frustrating personally speaking is that the dissemination channels are not fully available/supported

Hugh Glaser: bit frustrating personally speaking is that the dissemination channels are not fully available/supported

16:21:24 <mhausenblas> ... for example to go out and hold seminars, etc.

... for example to go out and hold seminars, etc.

16:21:50 <mhausenblas> Cory: looks like that most of the UK stuff is not that well known outside the inner circle

Cory Casanave: looks like that most of the UK stuff is not that well known outside the inner circle

16:22:31 <mhausenblas> Mh: agree, but what shall we do, concretely?

Michael Hausenblas: agree, but what shall we do, concretely?

16:23:13 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, draft minutes

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16:24:40 <mhausenblas> Mh: shall we also do lobbying?

Michael Hausenblas: shall we also do lobbying?

16:25:17 <mhausenblas> Cory: sandro is unfortunately not here, but maybe W3C can help with that, yes - sort of organising a F2F

Cory Casanave: sandro is unfortunately not here, but maybe W3C can help with that, yes - sort of organising a F2F

16:26:00 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Cory to ask sandro re lobbying efforts (F2F, etc.) within W3C

ACTION: Cory to ask sandro re lobbying efforts (F2F, etc.) within W3C

16:26:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-98 - Ask sandro re lobbying efforts (F2F, etc.) within W3C [on Cory Casanave - due 2010-02-18].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-98 - Ask sandro re lobbying efforts (F2F, etc.) within W3C [on Cory Casanave - due 2010-02-18].

16:27:12 <mhausenblas> Cory: shall we maintain a tools list

Cory Casanave: shall we maintain a tools list

16:27:14 <mhausenblas> Mh:

Michael Hausenblas:

16:27:16 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/Main_Page

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/Main_Page

16:28:16 <mhausenblas> Mh: my 2c is, no, let's not redo it ...

Michael Hausenblas: my 2c is, no, let's not redo it ...

16:28:35 <mhausenblas> hg: we should encourage people to contribute

Hugh Glaser: we should encourage people to contribute

16:30:00 <mhausenblas> Mh:  re datasets let's use a more or less automated approach based on voiD etc.

Michael Hausenblas: re datasets let's use a more or less automated approach based on voiD etc.

16:30:21 <mhausenblas> hg: also in the UK, automated approaches are dominating

Hugh Glaser: also in the UK, automated approaches are dominating

16:30:26 <mhausenblas> +1

+1

16:31:14 <mhausenblas> Cory: re cataloguing, what would people like to see?

Cory Casanave: re cataloguing, what would people like to see?

16:32:16 <mhausenblas> hg: re technologies (as well) - the practical limitations of gov agency, one should always think of that there is a workflow in the background

Hugh Glaser: re technologies (as well) - the practical limitations of gov agency, one should always think of that there is a workflow in the background

16:32:35 <mhausenblas> ... outreach should tackle these issues around the process as well

... outreach should tackle these issues around the process as well

16:32:52 <mhausenblas> Cory: makes sense

Cory Casanave: makes sense

16:33:14 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

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16:33:21 <Cory> Practical difficulties in opening data - political and technical

Cory Casanave: Practical difficulties in opening data - political and technical

16:34:45 <Cory> Core will do a summary "mission statement"

Cory Casanave: Core will do a summary "mission statement"

16:35:01 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Cory to propose a mission statement for our project

ACTION: Cory to propose a mission statement for our project

16:35:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-99 - Propose a mission statement for our project [on Cory Casanave - due 2010-02-18].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-99 - Propose a mission statement for our project [on Cory Casanave - due 2010-02-18].

16:35:40 <mhausenblas> hg: I didn't mean to refer to "political" issues but rather to social interaction

Hugh Glaser: I didn't mean to refer to "political" issues but rather to social interaction

16:36:11 <mhausenblas> hg: agency-internally dynamics

Hugh Glaser: agency-internally dynamics

16:36:45 <mhausenblas> ... ensure that it is satisfactory, how to identify benefits towards citizens, etc

... ensure that it is satisfactory, how to identify benefits towards citizens, etc

16:36:59 <mhausenblas> ... we need to understand the business process, really

... we need to understand the business process, really

16:39:06 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Hugh to draft a paragraph regarding gov agency business process and its implications on our outreach work

ACTION: Hugh to draft a paragraph regarding gov agency business process and its implications on our outreach work

16:39:06 <trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - Hugh

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16:39:06 <trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. hbarnes, hglaser3)

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16:39:23 <mhausenblas> ACTION: hg to draft a paragraph regarding gov agency business process and its implications on our outreach work

ACTION: hg to draft a paragraph regarding gov agency business process and its implications on our outreach work

16:39:23 <trackbot> Created ACTION-100 - Draft a paragraph regarding gov agency business process and its implications on our outreach work [on Hugh Glaser - due 2010-02-18].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-100 - Draft a paragraph regarding gov agency business process and its implications on our outreach work [on Hugh Glaser - due 2010-02-18].

16:42:12 <mhausenblas> ACTION: mhausenblas to draft demos for outreach

ACTION: mhausenblas to draft demos for outreach

16:42:12 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - mhausenblas

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16:42:18 <mhausenblas> ACTION: mhausenb to draft demos for outreach

ACTION: mhausenb to draft demos for outreach

16:42:18 <trackbot> Created ACTION-101 - Draft demos for outreach [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2010-02-18].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-101 - Draft demos for outreach [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2010-02-18].

16:43:47 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

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16:46:32 <mhausenblas> Cory: shall we merge tech and outreach or keep separate?

Cory Casanave: shall we merge tech and outreach or keep separate?

16:46:37 <Cory> Proposal - combine projects into "outreach" project

Cory Casanave: Proposal - combine projects into "outreach" project

16:46:40 <mhausenblas> Mh: focus on outreach, IMO

Michael Hausenblas: focus on outreach, IMO

16:47:24 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

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16:48:12 <mhausenblas> hg: we should reuse others work (re catalogues of catalogues and datasets)

Hugh Glaser: we should reuse others work (re catalogues of catalogues and datasets)

16:48:25 <mhausenblas> Cory: we should start with the executive primer

Cory Casanave: we should start with the executive primer

16:48:45 <mhausenblas> hg: ok to wait till we have more people on board

Hugh Glaser: ok to wait till we have more people on board

16:48:49 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

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16:49:15 <mhausenblas> Cory: AOB?

Cory Casanave: AOB?

16:49:17 <mhausenblas> hg: no

Hugh Glaser: no

16:49:21 <mhausenblas> Mh: no

Michael Hausenblas: no

16:49:51 <mhausenblas> Cory: ok, so thanks everyone and see you next week

Cory Casanave: ok, so thanks everyone and see you next week

16:49:56 <Zakim> -Cory

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16:49:57 <Zakim> -mhausenblas

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16:49:59 <Zakim> -hg

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16:49:59 <mhausenblas> [adjourned]

[adjourned]

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16:50:02 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(LD Tech)10:00AM has ended

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16:50:03 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.703.880.aaaa, +3539149aabb, mhausenblas, Cory, +0789422aacc, +0012aadd, hg, +1.202.236.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +1.703.880.aaaa, +3539149aabb, mhausenblas, Cory, +0789422aacc, +0012aadd, hg, +1.202.236.aaee

16:50:12 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, bye

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16:50:12 <RRSAgent> I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/11-egov-actions.rdf :

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/11-egov-actions.rdf :

16:50:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Cory to ask sandro re lobbying efforts (F2F, etc.) within W3C [1]

ACTION: Cory to ask sandro re lobbying efforts (F2F, etc.) within W3C [1]

16:50:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/11-egov-irc#T16-26-00

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/11-egov-irc#T16-26-00

16:50:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Cory to propose a mission statement for our project [2]

ACTION: Cory to propose a mission statement for our project [2]

16:50:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/11-egov-irc#T16-35-01

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/11-egov-irc#T16-35-01

16:50:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Hugh to draft a paragraph regarding gov agency business process and its implications on our outreach work [3]

ACTION: Hugh to draft a paragraph regarding gov agency business process and its implications on our outreach work [3]

16:50:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/11-egov-irc#T16-39-06

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/11-egov-irc#T16-39-06

16:50:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: hg to draft a paragraph regarding gov agency business process and its implications on our outreach work [4]

ACTION: hg to draft a paragraph regarding gov agency business process and its implications on our outreach work [4]

16:50:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/11-egov-irc#T16-39-23

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/11-egov-irc#T16-39-23

16:50:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: mhausenblas to draft demos for outreach [5]

ACTION: mhausenblas to draft demos for outreach [5]

16:50:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/11-egov-irc#T16-42-12

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/11-egov-irc#T16-42-12

16:50:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: mhausenb to draft demos for outreach [6]

ACTION: mhausenb to draft demos for outreach [6]

16:50:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/11-egov-irc#T16-42-18

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