eGovernment Interest Group

Minutes of 14 April 2010

Present
Michael Hausenblas, Sandro Hawke, Chris Beer, Owen Ambur, Brand Niemann, Cory Casanave, Daniel Bennett, Ed Summers, John Sheridan, Martín Álvarez, Rachel Flagg, Richard Cyganiak, Brian Gryth
Guests
Dave Reynolds, Ivan Herman, Jeni Tennison, Dan Brickley, Juan Sequeda, Kate Geyer, Laurent LeFort, Oly Erickson, Libby Miller, Tom M
Chair
John Sheridan
Scribe
Michael Hausenblas
IRC Log
Original and Editable Wiki Version
Resolutions

None.

Topics
  1. Problems with the conference call system

    Sandro apologizes for the system not being set up correctly. Folks wait around while it gets corrected to allow more than ten people on the call.

  2. Main Presentation: Linked Data API

    Dave Reynolds and Jeni Tennison present a system for exposing the data available in SPARQL endpoints in ways which make them much easier to use for non-RDF-experts.

  3. Announcements

<sandro> Guest: Dave Reynolds
<sandro> Guest: Ivan Herman
<sandro> Guest: Jeni (JeniT) Tennison, http://www.jenitennison.com
<sandro> Guest: Dan (danbri) Brickley
<sandro> Guest: Juan Sequeda
<sandro> Guest: Kate Geyer
<sandro> Guest: Laurent (laurent_lefort_cs) LeFort
<sandro> Guest: Oly Erickson
<sandro> Guest: Libby Miller
<sandro> Guest: Tom M
<sandro> Present: hausenblas, sandro, chris_beer, owen, brand, cory, bennett, edsu, sheridan, martinspain, flagg, cygri, brian
<sandro> Scribe: hausenblas

(Scribe set to Michael Hausenblas)

<sandro> topic: Problems with the conference call system

1. Problems with the conference call system

Summary: Sandro apologizes for the system not being set up correctly. Folks wait around while it gets corrected to allow more than ten people on the call.

<sandro> summary: Sandro apologizes for the system not being set up correctly.   Folks wait around while it gets corrected to allow more than ten people on the call.
12:55:51 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-egov-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-egov-irc

12:55:59 <sandro> zakim, this will be egov

Sandro Hawke: zakim, this will be egov

12:55:59 <Zakim> ok, sandro, I see T&S_EGOV(DMngmnt)8:00AM already started

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, sandro, I see T&S_EGOV(DMngmnt)8:00AM already started

12:56:10 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call?

12:56:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P8

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P8

12:56:27 <Zakim> +Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro

12:56:38 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip

Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip

12:56:38 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivan; the call is being made

12:56:40 <Zakim> +Ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan

12:58:00 <Zakim> +mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: +mhausenblas

12:58:23 <Zakim> +??P11

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P11

12:58:30 <Zakim> + +0203334aaaa - is perhaps John

Zakim IRC Bot: + +0203334aaaa - is perhaps John

12:58:43 <Zakim> + +1.865.576.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.865.576.aabb

12:58:45 <juansequeda> zakim, ??P11 is me

Juan Sequeda: zakim, ??P11 is me

12:58:45 <Zakim> +juansequeda; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +juansequeda; got it

12:59:15 <Zakim> + +1.617.752.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.752.aacc

12:59:20 <JeniT> http://www.epimorphics.com/public/presentations/ldapi/egov-presentation.html#(1)

Jeni Tennison: http://www.epimorphics.com/public/presentations/ldapi/egov-presentation.html#(1)

12:59:20 <Zakim> + +1.614.692.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.614.692.aadd

12:59:26 <Zakim> + +1.404.314.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.404.314.aaee

12:59:36 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call?

12:59:36 <Zakim> On the phone I see DaveReynolds, Sandro, Ivan, mhausenblas, juansequeda, John, +1.865.576.aabb, +1.617.752.aacc, +1.614.692.aadd, +1.404.314.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see DaveReynolds, Sandro, Ivan, mhausenblas, juansequeda, John, +1.865.576.aabb, +1.617.752.aacc, +1.614.692.aadd, +1.404.314.aaee

12:59:50 <JeniT> I'm on the same line as John

Jeni Tennison: I'm on the same line as John

13:00:28 <TomM> Conference call is full

Tom M: Conference call is full

13:00:54 <sandro> checkiing on it TomM

Sandro Hawke: checkiing on it TomM

13:01:05 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call?

13:01:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see DaveReynolds, Sandro, Ivan, mhausenblas, juansequeda, John, +1.865.576.aabb, +1.617.752.aacc, +1.614.692.aadd, +1.404.314.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see DaveReynolds, Sandro, Ivan, mhausenblas, juansequeda, John, +1.865.576.aabb, +1.617.752.aacc, +1.614.692.aadd, +1.404.314.aaee

13:01:40 <TomM> thx

Tom M: thx

13:03:04 <DaveReynolds> @olyerickson asked about streaming audio ... maybe another time :)

Dave Reynolds: @olyerickson asked about streaming audio ... maybe another time :)

13:04:02 <TomM> now conference is restricted...

Tom M: now conference is restricted...

13:04:11 <sandro> still working on it!   sorry!

Sandro Hawke: still working on it! sorry!

13:04:17 <TomM> thx

Tom M: thx

13:06:09 <sandro> yeah.   :-(

Sandro Hawke: yeah. :-(

13:06:29 <sandro> I'm so sorry everyone.   I thought this was set up properly.

Sandro Hawke: I'm so sorry everyone. I thought this was set up properly.

13:06:36 <sandro> Hopefully just another minute or two.

Sandro Hawke: Hopefully just another minute or two.

13:06:37 <Cory> Ok, I get back in the loop andd the loop is closed!

Cory Casanave: Ok, I get back in the loop andd the loop is closed!

13:06:49 <edsu> sandro: no worries, it's a good problem to have imho :-)

Sandro Hawke: no worries, it's a good problem to have imho :-) [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ]

13:07:11 <juansequeda> mhausenblas, really? I was expecting this :)

Juan Sequeda: mhausenblas, really? I was expecting this :)

13:07:30 <Cory> I can set up a gotowebinar

Cory Casanave: I can set up a gotowebinar

13:08:46 <edsu> anyone know how many people are on the call? (that aren't in irc)

Ed Summers: anyone know how many people are on the call? (that aren't in irc)

13:09:52 <mhausenblas> Zakim, cygri is with mhausenblas

Zakim, cygri is with mhausenblas

13:09:52 <Zakim> +cygri; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it

13:10:05 <sandro> Yeah, 10.    People with w3c member access can see the list of all bridge users here: http://www.w3.org/1998/12/bridge/Zakim.html

Sandro Hawke: Yeah, 10. People with w3c member access can see the list of all bridge users here: http://www.w3.org/1998/12/bridge/Zakim.html

13:10:12 <johnlsheridan> how will we know when we can start?

John Sheridan: how will we know when we can start?

13:10:34 <johnlsheridan> ok

John Sheridan: ok

13:10:49 <johnlsheridan> I think it might suit JeniT

John Sheridan: I think it might suit JeniT

13:10:50 <JeniT> Suits me. I hate talking on the phone at the best of times ;)

Jeni Tennison: Suits me. I hate talking on the phone at the best of times ;)

13:10:56 <Zakim> - +1.404.314.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.404.314.aaee

13:11:21 <JeniT> hi libby :)

Jeni Tennison: hi libby :)

13:11:28 <libby> hey jenit!

Libby Miller: hey jenit!

13:11:33 <libby> and all

Libby Miller: and all

13:11:39 <Chris> Evening all

Chris Beer: Evening all

13:11:41 <sandro> hey libby!

Sandro Hawke: hey libby!

13:11:50 <libby> hey sandro ;-)

Libby Miller: hey sandro ;-)

13:11:55 <sandro> waiting, waiting.  :-)

Sandro Hawke: waiting, waiting. :-)

13:12:02 <libby> s/;-)/:-)/

Libby Miller: s/;-)/:-)/

13:12:42 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's making noise?

Zakim, who's making noise?

13:12:55 <Zakim> mhausenblas, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sandro (31%), +1.614.692.aadd (18%), Ivan (11%)

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sandro (31%), +1.614.692.aadd (18%), Ivan (11%)

13:13:07 <sandro> zakim, mute me

Sandro Hawke: zakim, mute me

13:13:07 <Zakim> Sandro should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Sandro should now be muted

13:13:11 <sandro> did that do it?

Sandro Hawke: did that do it?

13:13:14 <JeniT> no

Jeni Tennison: no

13:13:18 <ivan> zakim, mute me

Ivan Herman: zakim, mute me

13:13:18 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan should now be muted

13:13:19 <sandro> zakim, unmute me

Sandro Hawke: zakim, unmute me

13:13:19 <Zakim> Sandro should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Sandro should no longer be muted

13:13:27 <sandro> zakim, mute aadd

Sandro Hawke: zakim, mute aadd

13:13:27 <Zakim> +1.614.692.aadd should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: +1.614.692.aadd should now be muted

13:13:36 <ivan> aaaahhhh :-)

Ivan Herman: aaaahhhh :-)

13:13:52 <Zakim> - +1.614.692.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.614.692.aadd

13:14:38 <Chris> meh - Probs with conf call sandro?

Chris Beer: meh - Probs with conf call sandro?

13:14:48 <sandro> Yes, Chris   :-(    :-(

Sandro Hawke: Yes, Chris :-( :-(

13:14:56 <johnlsheridan> when we start, will people want to introduce themselves on the call, or just skip straight to the presentation?

John Sheridan: when we start, will people want to introduce themselves on the call, or just skip straight to the presentation?

13:15:22 <Chris> @sandro no stress - how long till fix?

Chris Beer: @sandro no stress - how long till fix?

13:15:24 <Zakim> + +1.573.522.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.573.522.aaff

13:15:36 <sandro> (and totally my fault, for setting up the teleconference reservation incorrectly.)

Sandro Hawke: (and totally my fault, for setting up the teleconference reservation incorrectly.)

13:15:48 <Zakim> + +0782464aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: + +0782464aagg

13:16:02 <johnlsheridan> normally 10 people is enough for us :)

John Sheridan: normally 10 people is enough for us :)

13:16:31 <TomM> twitter-effect.... :)

Tom M: twitter-effect.... :)

13:16:39 <libby> hey dave!

Libby Miller: hey dave!

13:17:38 <mhausenblas> I guess so, TomM  - re Twitter http://search.twitter.com/search?q=egov+linked+data

I guess so, TomM - re Twitter http://search.twitter.com/search?q=egov+linked+data

13:17:50 <Cory> Sandro - I have a gotomeeting  webinar running, if needed

Cory Casanave: Sandro - I have a gotomeeting webinar running, if needed

13:18:33 <sandro> Thanks, Cory.   In 10 years at W3C I've never had a problem, except once when the bridge's second redundant power supply blew out.

Sandro Hawke: Thanks, Cory. In 10 years at W3C I've never had a problem, except once when the bridge's second redundant power supply blew out.

13:18:36 <Zakim> - +0782464aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: - +0782464aagg

13:19:13 <Cory> Its the every 10 year problems that get you!

Cory Casanave: Its the every 10 year problems that get you!

13:21:04 <sandro> [The admin I'm talking to now isn't answering me....    hopefully that means she's getting up, or something.    But the real expert on the system is away helping with local flood relief operations.]

Sandro Hawke: [The admin I'm talking to now isn't answering me.... hopefully that means she's getting up, or something. But the real expert on the system is away helping with local flood relief operations.]

13:21:18 <sandro> er, getting *help* I mean

Sandro Hawke: er, getting *help* I mean

13:22:32 <edsu> sandro: so would that be ralph who is helping out w/ the flood relief

Sandro Hawke: so would that be ralph who is helping out w/ the flood relief [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ]

13:23:40 <JeniT> Zakim, John is johnlsheridan

Jeni Tennison: Zakim, John is johnlsheridan

13:23:40 <Zakim> +johnlsheridan; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +johnlsheridan; got it

13:23:53 <JeniT> Zakim, JeniT is with johnlsheridan

Jeni Tennison: Zakim, JeniT is with johnlsheridan

13:23:53 <Zakim> +JeniT; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +JeniT; got it

13:24:06 <johnlsheridan> I'm being organised by JeniT (again)

John Sheridan: I'm being organised by JeniT (again)

13:24:14 <Chris> lol

Chris Beer: lol

13:24:16 <johnlsheridan> ok

John Sheridan: ok

13:24:18 <Zakim> -mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: -mhausenblas

13:24:20 <Zakim> -juansequeda

Zakim IRC Bot: -juansequeda

13:24:21 <Zakim> - +1.573.522.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.573.522.aaff

13:24:23 <Zakim> - +1.617.752.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.617.752.aacc

13:24:25 <ivan> zakim, drop me

Ivan Herman: zakim, drop me

13:24:25 <Zakim> -johnlsheridan

Zakim IRC Bot: -johnlsheridan

13:24:25 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds

Zakim IRC Bot: -DaveReynolds

13:24:25 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected

Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan is being disconnected

13:24:26 <Zakim> -Ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan

13:24:26 <Zakim> - +1.865.576.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.865.576.aabb

13:24:30 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro

13:24:31 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(DMngmnt)8:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV(DMngmnt)8:00AM has ended

13:24:32 <Zakim> Attendees were Sandro, Ivan, DaveReynolds, mhausenblas, +0203334aaaa, +1.865.576.aabb, juansequeda, +1.617.752.aacc, +1.614.692.aadd, +1.404.314.aaee, cygri, +1.573.522.aaff,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Sandro, Ivan, DaveReynolds, mhausenblas, +0203334aaaa, +1.865.576.aabb, juansequeda, +1.617.752.aacc, +1.614.692.aadd, +1.404.314.aaee, cygri, +1.573.522.aaff,

13:24:35 <Zakim> ... +0782464aagg, johnlsheridan, JeniT

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +0782464aagg, johnlsheridan, JeniT

13:24:40 <Cory> On another note - I would like to try and spool up "outreach" again, looking for ideas and input

Cory Casanave: On another note - I would like to try and spool up "outreach" again, looking for ideas and input

13:24:50 <sandro> zakim, this will be egov

Sandro Hawke: zakim, this will be egov

13:24:50 <Zakim> ok, sandro, I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM already started

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, sandro, I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM already started

13:24:50 <johnlsheridan> can we try and dial back now?

John Sheridan: can we try and dial back now?

13:24:59 <edsu> Zakim, LC is edsu

Ed Summers: Zakim, LC is edsu

13:24:59 <Zakim> +edsu; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +edsu; got it

13:24:59 <sandro> yes.

Sandro Hawke: yes.

13:25:06 <mhausenblas> Zakim, code?

Zakim, code?

13:25:06 <Zakim> the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), mhausenblas

13:25:08 <Zakim> + +1.865.576.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.865.576.aaaa

13:25:08 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:25:09 <Zakim> + +1.573.522.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.573.522.aabb

13:25:09 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip

Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip

13:25:10 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivan; the call is being made

13:25:10 <Zakim> +??P5

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P5

13:25:12 <Zakim> +Ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan

13:25:23 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:25:26 <edsu> dang somebody sounds like they're in a laundromat :-)

Ed Summers: dang somebody sounds like they're in a laundromat :-)

13:25:27 <Zakim> +mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: +mhausenblas

13:25:28 <Zakim> +Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro

13:25:35 <Zakim> +??P2

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2

13:25:36 <Zakim> + +1.914.461.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.914.461.aacc

13:25:36 <Zakim> + +1.617.752.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.752.aadd

13:25:39 <Zakim> +Cory

Zakim IRC Bot: +Cory

13:25:39 <mhausenblas> Zakim, cygri is with mhausenblas

Zakim, cygri is with mhausenblas

13:25:40 <Zakim> +cygri; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it

13:25:41 <Zakim> + +0203334aaee - is perhaps johnlsheridan

Zakim IRC Bot: + +0203334aaee - is perhaps johnlsheridan

13:25:44 <edsu> sandro++

Ed Summers: sandro++

13:25:50 <ivan> isn't technology great?

Ivan Herman: isn't technology great?

13:25:52 <JeniT> Zakim, JeniT is with johnlsheridan

Jeni Tennison: Zakim, JeniT is with johnlsheridan

13:25:52 <Zakim> +JeniT; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +JeniT; got it

13:25:56 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a]

13:26:03 <sandro> OKAY TO CALL NOW!!

Sandro Hawke: OKAY TO CALL NOW!!

13:26:04 <Zakim> + +1.617.619.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.619.aaff

13:26:05 <Zakim> + +03539149aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: + +03539149aagg

13:26:09 <edsu> ivan: :-)

Ivan Herman: :-) [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ]

13:26:22 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, ++??P2 is me

Laurent LeFort: zakim, ++??P2 is me

13:26:22 <Zakim> sorry, laurent_lefort_cs, I do not recognize a party named '++??P2'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, laurent_lefort_cs, I do not recognize a party named '++??P2'

13:26:24 <TomM> :)

Tom M: :)

13:26:28 <Zakim> + +1.805.560.aahh

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.805.560.aahh

13:26:35 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, +??P2 is me

Laurent LeFort: zakim, +??P2 is me

13:26:35 <Zakim> sorry, laurent_lefort_cs, I do not recognize a party named '+??P2'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, laurent_lefort_cs, I do not recognize a party named '+??P2'

13:26:39 <Zakim> + +7.942.aaii

Zakim IRC Bot: + +7.942.aaii

13:26:43 <Cory> So now we are goint to tell the world how to be interconnected, right!

Cory Casanave: So now we are goint to tell the world how to be interconnected, right!

13:26:51 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, ??P2 is me

Laurent LeFort: zakim, ??P2 is me

13:26:51 <Zakim> +laurent_lefort_cs; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +laurent_lefort_cs; got it

13:26:57 <Zakim> + +1.617.521.aajj

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.521.aajj

13:27:00 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.aa]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.aa]

13:27:13 <Zakim> +[CTIC]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[CTIC]

13:27:43 <martinSpain> Zakim, [CTIC is martinSpain

Martín Álvarez: Zakim, [CTIC is martinSpain

13:27:43 <Zakim> +martinSpain; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +martinSpain; got it

13:29:06 <Zakim> +??P24

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P24

13:29:14 <danbri> zakim, I just joined

Dan Brickley: zakim, I just joined

13:29:14 <Zakim> I don't understand 'I just joined', danbri

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'I just joined', danbri

13:29:18 <JeniT> http://www.epimorphics.com/public/presentations/ldapi/egov-presentation.html

Jeni Tennison: http://www.epimorphics.com/public/presentations/ldapi/egov-presentation.html

13:29:25 <sandro> zakim, ??P24 is danbri

Sandro Hawke: zakim, ??P24 is danbri

13:29:25 <Zakim> +danbri; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +danbri; got it

13:31:11 <edsu> mhausenblas: sounds like you are volunteering :-)

Michael Hausenblas: sounds like you are volunteering :-) [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ]

13:31:34 <daniel> .mhausenblas... this would be good

Daniel Bennett: .mhausenblas... this would be good

13:31:42 <edsu> mhausenblas++

Ed Summers: mhausenblas++

13:31:47 <johnlsheridan> +1 - sorry, I should have asked for a scribe!

John Sheridan: +1 - sorry, I should have asked for a scribe!

13:32:00 <danbri> zakim, who is on the phone?

Dan Brickley: zakim, who is on the phone?

13:32:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see edsu, +1.865.576.aaaa, DaveReynolds, +1.573.522.aabb, DaveReynolds, Ivan, [IPcaller], mhausenblas, Sandro, +1.914.461.aacc, laurent_lefort_cs, +1.617.752.aadd,

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see edsu, +1.865.576.aaaa, DaveReynolds, +1.573.522.aabb, DaveReynolds, Ivan, [IPcaller], mhausenblas, Sandro, +1.914.461.aacc, laurent_lefort_cs, +1.617.752.aadd,

13:32:03 <Zakim> ... Cory, johnlsheridan, [IPcaller.a], +1.617.619.aaff, +03539149aagg (muted), +1.805.560.aahh, +7.942.aaii, +1.617.521.aajj, [IPcaller.aa], martinSpain, danbri (muted)

Zakim IRC Bot: ... Cory, johnlsheridan, [IPcaller.a], +1.617.619.aaff, +03539149aagg (muted), +1.805.560.aahh, +7.942.aaii, +1.617.521.aajj, [IPcaller.aa], martinSpain, danbri (muted)

<sandro> topic: Main Presentation: Linked Data API

2. Main Presentation: Linked Data API

Summary: Dave Reynolds and Jeni Tennison present a system for exposing the data available in SPARQL endpoints in ways which make them much easier to use for non-RDF-experts.

<sandro> summary: Dave Reynolds and Jeni Tennison present a system for exposing the data available in SPARQL endpoints in ways which make them much easier to use for non-RDF-experts.
13:32:06 <Zakim> johnlsheridan has johnlsheridan, JeniT

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13:32:08 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri

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13:32:31 <olyerickson1> for thoe of us IRC only, please tell us the current slide...thanks!

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13:32:39 <mhausenblas> ok

ok

13:32:44 <sandro> still on slide 2 I believe

Sandro Hawke: still on slide 2 I believe

13:33:22 <sandro>  slide:3

Sandro Hawke: slide:3

13:33:35 <mhausenblas> JeniT: goal is a middleware that hides away RDF/SPARQL complexity

Jeni Tennison: goal is a middleware that hides away RDF/SPARQL complexity

13:33:53 <Chris> @sandro --> PM.

Chris Beer: @sandro --> PM.

13:34:09 <Zakim> +Brand

Zakim IRC Bot: +Brand

13:34:19 <sandro>  slide:4

Sandro Hawke: slide:4

13:34:21 <ivan> zakim, mute me

Ivan Herman: zakim, mute me

13:34:21 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan should now be muted

13:34:25 <daniel> s, middleware transformation to rdf-based systems is out of scope?

Daniel Bennett: s, middleware transformation to rdf-based systems is out of scope?

13:34:33 <mhausenblas> JeniT: the middleware takes HTTP request and wraps the SPARQL endpoint

Jeni Tennison: the middleware takes HTTP request and wraps the SPARQL endpoint

13:34:50 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking?

13:35:02 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [IPcaller] (5%), Brand (9%)

Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [IPcaller] (5%), Brand (9%)

13:35:38 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking?

13:35:42 <mhausenblas> JeniT: idea is that people deploy the middleware with API spec and serves multitude of formats

Jeni Tennison: idea is that people deploy the middleware with API spec and serves multitude of formats

13:35:52 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds

Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds

13:36:02 <mhausenblas> ... make customisation easy

... make customisation easy

13:36:21 <mhausenblas> slide 5

slide 5

13:36:30 <mhausenblas> JeniT: consumer side

Jeni Tennison: consumer side

13:37:12 <mhausenblas> ... the RDF format we had are 'ugly' and require changed tool chain

... the RDF format we had are 'ugly' and require changed tool chain

13:37:49 <sandro>  slide:6

Sandro Hawke: slide:6

13:37:51 <mhausenblas> ... so in order to simplify the job we remove round-tripping and provide simple JSON

... so in order to simplify the job we remove round-tripping and provide simple JSON

13:38:03 <mhausenblas> JeniT: query

Jeni Tennison: query

13:38:13 <mhausenblas> ... SPARQL was perceived too complex

... SPARQL was perceived too complex

13:38:41 <mhausenblas> ... people want to list based on URIs

... people want to list based on URIs

13:39:00 <sandro> (great stuff, JeniT....  makes a lot of sense.)

Sandro Hawke: (great stuff, JeniT.... makes a lot of sense.)

13:39:21 <mhausenblas> juansequeda: what are the 'ugly' formats

Juan Sequeda: what are the 'ugly' formats

13:39:25 <daniel> what is the role of REST?/is there one?

Daniel Bennett: what is the role of REST?/is there one?

13:39:38 <mhausenblas> JeniT: RDF/XML

Jeni Tennison: RDF/XML

13:39:57 <Zakim> +Rachel

Zakim IRC Bot: +Rachel

13:40:03 <mhausenblas> JeniT: aim is to make it a RESTful protocol

Jeni Tennison: aim is to make it a RESTful protocol

13:40:12 <mhausenblas> ... get list of things

... get list of things

13:40:17 <mhausenblas> ... read-only ATM

... read-only ATM

13:40:24 <danbri> is the idea for this API to have multiple implementations, or is it mainly an implementation?

Dan Brickley: is the idea for this API to have multiple implementations, or is it mainly an implementation?

13:40:30 <danbri> <- question in irc as my audio is bad

Dan Brickley: <- question in irc as my audio is bad

13:40:52 <mhausenblas> JeniT: idea is to have a generic spec with many impls

Jeni Tennison: idea is to have a generic spec with many impls

13:41:23 <edsu> i guess this is the specification currently? http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/wiki/Specification

Ed Summers: i guess this is the specification currently? http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/wiki/Specification

13:41:37 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds wil now explain how it works behind the scenes

DaveReynolds wil now explain how it works behind the scenes

13:41:43 <JeniT> Yes, that's right edsu

Jeni Tennison: Yes, that's right edsu

13:41:45 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: slide 7

Dave Reynolds: slide 7

13:42:22 <mhausenblas> ... the middleware takes HTTP request and figures how to translate it to SPARQL queries

... the middleware takes HTTP request and figures how to translate it to SPARQL queries

13:42:50 <mhausenblas> ... the vocab piece is needed to map types, labels, etc.

... the vocab piece is needed to map types, labels, etc.

13:43:01 <mhausenblas> slide 8

slide 8

13:43:17 <daniel> does the mapping have a link to e.g. the d2r-server mapping stuff

Daniel Bennett: does the mapping have a link to e.g. the d2r-server mapping stuff

13:43:22 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: middleware == selector, viewer, formatter

Dave Reynolds: middleware == selector, viewer, formatter

13:44:48 <mhausenblas> (DaveReynolds explains details re the three components)

(DaveReynolds explains details re the three components)

13:44:59 <mhausenblas> slide 9

slide 9

13:45:19 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: first you need to define the endpoint

Dave Reynolds: first you need to define the endpoint

13:45:46 <mhausenblas> ... for a SPARQL endpoint you define 1..N API endpoints

... for a SPARQL endpoint you define 1..N API endpoints

13:46:20 <mhausenblas> ... and then a view definition

... and then a view definition

13:46:59 <mhausenblas> slide 10

slide 10

13:47:09 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: using it

Dave Reynolds: using it

13:47:46 <mhausenblas> ... GET on http://epimorph-pubx1.appspot.com/proxy/api/doc/schools

... GET on http://epimorph-pubx1.appspot.com/proxy/api/doc/schools

13:48:12 <mhausenblas> slide 11

slide 11

13:48:59 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: you get back the top-level resource

Dave Reynolds: you get back the top-level resource

13:49:19 <mhausenblas> ... now in RDF/Turtle

... now in RDF/Turtle

13:49:54 <mhausenblas> slide 12

slide 12

13:50:20 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: important that we return a list of resources not a set of "bindings"

Dave Reynolds: important that we return a list of resources not a set of "bindings"

13:50:29 <mhausenblas> ... conserve the linked data root

... conserve the linked data root

13:50:58 <danbri> (this is a very healthy emphasis... the resource-centric aspect)

Dan Brickley: (this is a very healthy emphasis... the resource-centric aspect)

13:51:12 <mhausenblas> s/the linked data root/the resource-centric nature of linked data

s/the linked data root/the resource-centric nature of linked data

13:51:37 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: further, it's paged

Dave Reynolds: further, it's paged

13:52:01 <mhausenblas> ... and finally multiple representations (JSON, RDF etc)

... and finally multiple representations (JSON, RDF etc)

13:52:13 <mhausenblas> slide 13

slide 13

13:52:37 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: just put a .json on the end and you get a JSON representation

Dave Reynolds: just put a .json on the end and you get a JSON representation

13:53:15 <Zakim> + +1.303.869.aakk

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13:53:35 <mhausenblas> ... result is an array which conserves the Linked Data structure

... result is an array which conserves the Linked Data structure

13:53:37 <mhausenblas> slide 14

slide 14

13:54:00 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: goal was to keep the JSON simple/natural

Dave Reynolds: goal was to keep the JSON simple/natural

13:54:21 <mhausenblas> ... uniform tree structure

... uniform tree structure

13:55:38 <mhausenblas> ... also gives context information (mapping, etc.)

... also gives context information (mapping, etc.)

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13:55:53 <mhausenblas> slide 15

slide 15

13:56:00 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, make logs public

rrsagent, make logs public

13:56:12 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: filtering

Dave Reynolds: filtering

13:56:24 <Zakim> - +1.573.522.aabb

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13:56:48 <mhausenblas> ... you can narrow down by changing URI

... you can narrow down by changing URI

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13:58:10 <mhausenblas> slide 16

slide 16

13:58:25 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: sublists and patterns

Dave Reynolds: sublists and patterns

13:58:46 <mhausenblas> ... package useful filters into endpoints

... package useful filters into endpoints

13:59:52 <mhausenblas> ... leverage URI patterns

... leverage URI patterns

14:00:30 <mhausenblas> slide 17

slide 17

14:00:32 <Zakim> + +1.410.965.aall

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.410.965.aall

14:01:06 <mhausenblas> Michael: wondering if the template is based on http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gregorio-uritemplate

Michael Hausenblas: wondering if the template is based on http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gregorio-uritemplate

14:01:34 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: assisting with formulating queries

Dave Reynolds: assisting with formulating queries

14:01:38 <JeniT> mhausenblas: no, simpler, because it's for parsing rather than generation

Michael Hausenblas: no, simpler, because it's for parsing rather than generation [ Scribe Assist by Jeni Tennison ]

14:01:48 <mhausenblas> hmmm

hmmm

14:01:51 <JeniT> mhausenblas: rather, it's *based on*, but not everything from

Michael Hausenblas: rather, it's *based on*, but not everything from [ Scribe Assist by Jeni Tennison ]

14:02:23 <mhausenblas> Michael: thanks JeniT - I see

Michael Hausenblas: thanks JeniT - I see

14:02:31 <juansequeda> what is the link to the spec?

Juan Sequeda: what is the link to the spec?

14:02:48 <DaveReynolds> Spec is at: http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/wiki/Specification

Dave Reynolds: Spec is at: http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/wiki/Specification

14:02:49 <mhausenblas> JeniT wraps up

JeniT wraps up

14:03:04 <mhausenblas> JeniT: something we found we really needed

Jeni Tennison: something we found we really needed

14:03:08 <sandro> q?

Sandro Hawke: q?

14:03:18 <Cory> we did something similar bit were concerned about acceptance: http://www.modeldriven.org/projects/EKB/XMLView.ppt

Cory Casanave: we did something similar bit were concerned about acceptance: http://www.modeldriven.org/projects/EKB/XMLView.ppt

14:03:19 <sandro> if you have questions, please use "q+" on irc

Sandro Hawke: if you have questions, please use "q+" on irc

14:03:30 <mhausenblas> ... normal consumers (Web develeopers the scribe thinks?) not willing to handle RDF

... normal consumers (Web develeopers the scribe thinks?) not willing to handle RDF

14:03:59 <libby> q+

Libby Miller: q+

14:04:02 <mhausenblas> JeniT: it simplifies many tasks

Jeni Tennison: it simplifies many tasks

14:04:12 <Zakim> - +1.303.869.aakk

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14:04:12 <mhausenblas> ... no need to learn SPARQL

... no need to learn SPARQL

14:04:44 <daniel> sidenote : is there a way to push the json-output to the libs such as jena2?

Daniel Bennett: sidenote : is there a way to push the json-output to the libs such as jena2?

14:05:33 <mhausenblas> JeniT: through preserving the linked data aspects the users can still extend/learn more

Jeni Tennison: through preserving the linked data aspects the users can still extend/learn more

14:05:51 <mhausenblas> ... other side is helping the publishers of linked data

... other side is helping the publishers of linked data

14:05:57 <DaveReynolds> daniel - json-output is in an open source project and works with Jena

Dave Reynolds: daniel - json-output is in an open source project and works with Jena

14:06:06 <mhausenblas> JeniT:  simple config - rich API

Jeni Tennison: simple config - rich API

14:06:10 <Zakim> + +1.303.869.aamm

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14:06:18 <Zakim> - +1.914.461.aacc

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14:06:30 <daniel> DaveReynolds: ok, thx  - do you have a link for that?

Dave Reynolds: ok, thx - do you have a link for that? [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ]

14:06:43 <DaveReynolds> daniel - see http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/source/checkout

Dave Reynolds: daniel - see http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/source/checkout

14:06:54 <johnlsheridan> ack libby

John Sheridan: ack libby

14:06:55 <juansequeda> q+

Juan Sequeda: q+

14:07:00 <DaveReynolds> Not yet formally released and supported ! :)

Dave Reynolds: Not yet formally released and supported ! :)

14:07:05 <mhausenblas> libby: really impressive stuff

Libby Miller: really impressive stuff

14:07:14 <danbri> q+ to ask (if someone can relay this into audio) ... any interest in going further towards full text search, ranking, auto-completion ('give me schools whose names/labels begin with...')...

Dan Brickley: q+ to ask (if someone can relay this into audio) ... any interest in going further towards full text search, ranking, auto-completion ('give me schools whose names/labels begin with...')...

14:07:21 <edsu> q+ to ask slide 13

Ed Summers: q+ to ask slide 13

14:07:27 <mhausenblas> libby:  are people now complaining less?

Libby Miller: are people now complaining less?

14:07:50 <mhausenblas> JeniT: have presented this on certain meet-ups and very positive feedback, yes

Jeni Tennison: have presented this on certain meet-ups and very positive feedback, yes

14:08:11 <mhausenblas> libby: does this include also non-RDF-people?

Libby Miller: does this include also non-RDF-people?

14:08:21 <johnlsheridan> ack juansequeda

John Sheridan: ack juansequeda

14:08:26 <libby> thanks ;-)

Libby Miller: thanks ;-)

14:08:35 <mhausenblas> JeniT: most are sort of RDF aware,

Jeni Tennison: most are sort of RDF aware,

14:09:23 <mhausenblas> juansequeda: people often think RDF == XML, what's you experiences with this?

Juan Sequeda: people often think RDF == XML, what's you experiences with this?

14:09:27 <Cory> Objection 1: RDF is XML.  Objection 2: RDF isn't XML

Cory Casanave: Objection 1: RDF is XML. Objection 2: RDF isn't XML

14:09:32 <mhausenblas> juansequeda: future plans?

Juan Sequeda: future plans?

14:09:45 <Zakim> + +1.559.445.aann

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.559.445.aann

14:10:01 <edsu> ok :-)

Ed Summers: ok :-)

14:10:41 <juansequeda> edsu, it is me :)

Juan Sequeda: edsu, it is me :)

14:10:58 <edsu> mhausenblas++

Ed Summers: mhausenblas++

14:11:01 <JeniT> PHP implementation: http://code.google.com/p/puelia-php/

Jeni Tennison: PHP implementation: http://code.google.com/p/puelia-php/

14:11:18 <libby> heh

Libby Miller: heh

14:11:20 <johnlsheridan> ack danbri

John Sheridan: ack danbri

14:11:21 <Zakim> danbri, you wanted to ask (if someone can relay this into audio) ... any interest in going further towards full text search, ranking, auto-completion ('give me schools whose

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14:11:23 <JeniT> Ruby implementation: http://github.com/ldodds/linked-data-api

Jeni Tennison: Ruby implementation: http://github.com/ldodds/linked-data-api

14:11:25 <Zakim> ... names/labels begin with...')...

Zakim IRC Bot: ... names/labels begin with...')...

14:11:26 <danbri> ack me

Dan Brickley: ack me

14:11:27 <danbri> danbri: q+ to ask (if someone can relay this into audio) ... any interest in going further towards full text search, ranking, auto-completion ('give me schools whose names/labels begin with...')...

Dan Brickley: q+ to ask (if someone can relay this into audio) ... any interest in going further towards full text search, ranking, auto-completion ('give me schools whose names/labels begin with...')... [ Scribe Assist by Dan Brickley ]

14:11:39 <johnlsheridan> q?

John Sheridan: q?

14:11:51 <Cory> q+

Cory Casanave: q+

14:12:13 <JeniT> Java implementation: http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/

Jeni Tennison: Java implementation: http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/

14:12:30 <juansequeda> JeniT, any plans of coming to the US anytime soon?

Juan Sequeda: JeniT, any plans of coming to the US anytime soon?

14:12:36 <johnlsheridan> ack edsu

John Sheridan: ack edsu

14:12:36 <Zakim> edsu, you wanted to ask slide 13

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14:12:37 <danbri> thanks dave!

Dan Brickley: thanks dave!

14:12:41 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: there are some hooks for these things danbri but no active developments ATM

Dave Reynolds: there are some hooks for these things danbri but no active developments ATM

14:13:19 <mhausenblas> JeniT: we support extension points in the middleware

Jeni Tennison: we support extension points in the middleware

14:13:26 <danbri> (i have a hunch auto-complete will end up being important...)

Dan Brickley: (i have a hunch auto-complete will end up being important...)

14:13:27 <edsu> http://epimorph-pubx1.appspot.com/proxy/api/doc/schools.json

Ed Summers: http://epimorph-pubx1.appspot.com/proxy/api/doc/schools.json

14:13:33 <mhausenblas> edsu: question re slide 13

Ed Summers: question re slide 13

14:13:36 <mhausenblas> ack edsu

ack edsu

14:14:06 <mhausenblas> edsu: so you have a list of schools

Ed Summers: so you have a list of schools

14:14:31 <mhausenblas> ... what about a link back to the API to get the JSON back

... what about a link back to the API to get the JSON back

14:14:45 <JeniT> juansequeda, I'm over for WWW2010 and then for Semtech 2010 :)

Jeni Tennison: juansequeda, I'm over for WWW2010 and then for Semtech 2010 :)

14:15:22 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: at the top level (next, previous page) there is also the alternative formats

Dave Reynolds: at the top level (next, previous page) there is also the alternative formats

14:15:35 <mhausenblas> ... same works for item-level

... same works for item-level

14:15:39 <juansequeda> JeniT, great Looking forward to finally meeting you at WWW2010 and at Semtech :) Any free time? Would you like to come to Austin?

Juan Sequeda: JeniT, great Looking forward to finally meeting you at WWW2010 and at Semtech :) Any free time? Would you like to come to Austin?

14:16:13 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: we have not gone so far to offer it for every resource, no

Dave Reynolds: we have not gone so far to offer it for every resource, no

14:16:30 <johnlsheridan> ack Cory

John Sheridan: ack Cory

14:16:38 <JeniT> juansequeda, probably won't have time :( But hope we can meet at the conferences

Jeni Tennison: juansequeda, probably won't have time :( But hope we can meet at the conferences

14:17:06 <mhausenblas> Cory: you mentioned XXX - plans for it?

Cory Casanave: you mentioned XXX - plans for it?

14:17:23 <Cory> XXX = update

Cory Casanave: XXX = update

14:17:34 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: current motivation and reqs stems from data.gov.uk

Dave Reynolds: current motivation and reqs stems from data.gov.uk

14:17:53 <mhausenblas> s/XXX/update

s/XXX/update

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14:18:22 <edsu> mhausenblas: i asked the question awkwardly, i meant to ask if the spec would allow people to follow their nose in the json data, so individual schools in that response would have a linked-data-api uri to get the item level json for a school

Michael Hausenblas: i asked the question awkwardly, i meant to ask if the spec would allow people to follow their nose in the json data, so individual schools in that response would have a linked-data-api uri to get the item level json for a school [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ]

14:18:23 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: re updates - we'd be open to any ideas, currently not supported

Dave Reynolds: re updates - we'd be open to any ideas, currently not supported

14:19:13 <mhausenblas> JeniT: have seen such a requirement already, recently

Jeni Tennison: have seen such a requirement already, recently

14:19:48 <mhausenblas> Michael: notes http://esw.w3.org/WriteWebOfData and happy to follow up with you chaps

Michael Hausenblas: notes http://esw.w3.org/WriteWebOfData and happy to follow up with you chaps

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14:20:35 <Zakim> - +1.617.521.aajj

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14:20:35 <edsu> does irc.w3.org respond on port 80?

Ed Summers: does irc.w3.org respond on port 80?

14:21:13 <DaveReynolds> You're welcome :)

Dave Reynolds: You're welcome :)

14:21:13 <ivan> clap clap clap

Ivan Herman: clap clap clap

14:21:14 <danbri> edsu, it seems to talk irc: on :80, yes

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14:21:20 <Zakim> - +1.805.560.aahh

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14:21:21 <danbri> i hadn't thought to look before :)

Dan Brickley: i hadn't thought to look before :)

14:21:23 <ivan> ivan drop me

Ivan Herman: ivan drop me

14:21:28 <mhausenblas> johnlsheridan: thanks for presenting JeniT and DaveReynolds

John Sheridan: thanks for presenting JeniT and DaveReynolds

14:21:32 <laurent_lefort_cs> * laurent claps

Laurent LeFort: * laurent claps

14:21:36 <libby> thanks all

Libby Miller: thanks all

14:21:44 <Zakim> - +7.942.aaii

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14:21:51 <Zakim> -danbri

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14:21:56 <Zakim> - +1.617.752.aadd

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14:22:03 <Zakim> -martinSpain

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14:22:09 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]

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14:22:34 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call?

14:22:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see edsu, +1.865.576.aaaa, DaveReynolds, DaveReynolds, Ivan (muted), mhausenblas, Sandro, laurent_lefort_cs, Cory, johnlsheridan, [IPcaller.a], +1.617.619.aaff,

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see edsu, +1.865.576.aaaa, DaveReynolds, DaveReynolds, Ivan (muted), mhausenblas, Sandro, laurent_lefort_cs, Cory, johnlsheridan, [IPcaller.a], +1.617.619.aaff,

14:22:38 <Zakim> ... +03539149aagg (muted), [IPcaller.aa], Brand, Rachel, +1.410.965.aall, +1.303.869.aamm, +1.559.445.aann

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +03539149aagg (muted), [IPcaller.aa], Brand, Rachel, +1.410.965.aall, +1.303.869.aamm, +1.559.445.aann

14:22:41 <Zakim> johnlsheridan has johnlsheridan, JeniT

Zakim IRC Bot: johnlsheridan has johnlsheridan, JeniT

14:22:42 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri

<sandro> Topic: Announcements

3. Announcements

14:22:58 <mhausenblas> sandro: any announcements?

Sandro Hawke: any announcements?

14:22:58 <kate_geyer> Kate from MA, US, staying until the end

Kate Geyer: Kate from MA, US, staying until the end

14:23:19 <mhausenblas> sandro: DCAT will start its work tomorrow

Sandro Hawke: DCAT will start its work tomorrow

14:23:46 <mhausenblas> sandro: meeting in two weeks will host speakers from ZZZ

Sandro Hawke: meeting in two weeks will host speakers from ZZZ

14:23:55 <Zakim> -Ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan

14:23:58 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

RRSAgent, draft minutes

14:23:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas

14:24:12 <mhausenblas> Chair: johnlsheridan
14:25:29 <sandro> s/ZZZ/New York state legislature/

Sandro Hawke: s/ZZZ/New York state legislature/

14:25:36 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.a]

Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller.a]

14:25:44 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

RRSAgent, draft minutes

14:25:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas

14:26:12 <mhausenblas> Cory: in outreach want to find out in what people are interested in

Cory Casanave: in outreach want to find out in what people are interested in

14:26:22 <mhausenblas> ... will do some work in Wiki and send out email

... will do some work in Wiki and send out email

14:28:03 <mhausenblas> johnlsheridan: will talk about in chairs group but would like to update the note with recent activities

John Sheridan: will talk about in chairs group but would like to update the note with recent activities

14:29:56 <mhausenblas> BrianG: some uptake of catalogue in Colorado

Brian Gryth: some uptake of catalogue in Colorado

14:30:42 <mhausenblas> OwenAmbur: there are two other activities

Owen Ambur: there are two other activities

14:30:51 <sandro> zakim, who is here?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is here?

14:30:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see edsu, +1.865.576.aaaa, DaveReynolds, DaveReynolds, mhausenblas, Sandro, laurent_lefort_cs, Cory, johnlsheridan, +1.617.619.aaff, +03539149aagg (muted),

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see edsu, +1.865.576.aaaa, DaveReynolds, DaveReynolds, mhausenblas, Sandro, laurent_lefort_cs, Cory, johnlsheridan, +1.617.619.aaff, +03539149aagg (muted),

14:30:55 <Zakim> ... [IPcaller.aa], Brand, Rachel, +1.410.965.aall, +1.303.869.aamm, +1.559.445.aann

Zakim IRC Bot: ... [IPcaller.aa], Brand, Rachel, +1.410.965.aall, +1.303.869.aamm, +1.559.445.aann

14:30:57 <Zakim> johnlsheridan has johnlsheridan, JeniT

Zakim IRC Bot: johnlsheridan has johnlsheridan, JeniT

14:30:58 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri

14:31:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see tmarkus, cutlass, equaliser, jpf, RichW, Rachel, mib_lo55ig, OwenAmbur, libby, cygri, Cornelia, Cory, Daniel_Bennett, kate_geyer, olyerickson1, colin, martinSpain,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see tmarkus, cutlass, equaliser, jpf, RichW, Rachel, mib_lo55ig, OwenAmbur, libby, cygri, Cornelia, Cory, Daniel_Bennett, kate_geyer, olyerickson1, colin, martinSpain,

14:31:02 <johnlsheridan> q?

John Sheridan: q?

14:31:02 <mhausenblas> scribe can't understand OwenAmbur  - anyone?

scribe can't understand OwenAmbur - anyone?

14:31:04 <Zakim> ... laurent_lefort_cs, fadi, JeniT, RRSAgent, johnlsheridan, DaveReynolds, juansequeda, mhausenblas, hughb, edsu, Zakim, sandro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... laurent_lefort_cs, fadi, JeniT, RRSAgent, johnlsheridan, DaveReynolds, juansequeda, mhausenblas, hughb, edsu, Zakim, sandro, trackbot

14:31:35 <Zakim> - +1.617.619.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.617.619.aaff

14:31:41 <Zakim> - +03539149aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: - +03539149aagg

14:31:56 <OwenAmbur> IAC is conducting a social media best practices study.

Owen Ambur: IAC is conducting a social media best practices study.

14:32:02 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

RRSAgent, draft minutes

14:32:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas

14:32:13 <OwenAmbur> They will be interviewing a number of .gov officials for the study.

Owen Ambur: They will be interviewing a number of .gov officials for the study.

14:32:47 <Zakim> -Brand

Zakim IRC Bot: -Brand

14:32:49 <Zakim> - +1.410.965.aall

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.410.965.aall

14:32:49 <mhausenblas> [adjourned]

[adjourned]

14:32:50 <Zakim> -Rachel

Zakim IRC Bot: -Rachel

14:32:50 <Zakim> - +1.559.445.aann

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.559.445.aann

14:32:52 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds

Zakim IRC Bot: -DaveReynolds

14:32:52 <Zakim> -edsu

Zakim IRC Bot: -edsu

14:32:54 <OwenAmbur> Under the auspices of IBM's Center for the Business of Government, Professor Pat Franks is also conducting a similar study.

Owen Ambur: Under the auspices of IBM's Center for the Business of Government, Professor Pat Franks is also conducting a similar study.

14:32:56 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro

14:32:58 <Zakim> -johnlsheridan

Zakim IRC Bot: -johnlsheridan

14:33:00 <Zakim> -Cory

Zakim IRC Bot: -Cory

14:33:04 <Zakim> - +1.303.869.aamm

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.303.869.aamm

14:33:06 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds

Zakim IRC Bot: -DaveReynolds

14:33:09 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

RRSAgent, draft minutes

14:33:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas

14:33:12 <Zakim> -laurent_lefort_cs

Zakim IRC Bot: -laurent_lefort_cs

14:33:15 <sandro> thanks so much for scribing, mhausenblas.      I can take them from here, thanks!

Sandro Hawke: thanks so much for scribing, mhausenblas. I can take them from here, thanks!

14:33:32 <mhausenblas> yw - thanks for taking care of the rest ;)

yw - thanks for taking care of the rest ;)

14:33:38 <JeniT> bye :)

Jeni Tennison: bye :)

14:33:49 <Zakim> - +1.865.576.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.865.576.aaaa

14:33:51 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.aa]

Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller.aa]

14:33:51 <Zakim> -mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: -mhausenblas

14:33:51 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended

14:33:53 <Zakim> Attendees were edsu, +1.865.576.aaaa, +1.573.522.aabb, Ivan, DaveReynolds, [IPcaller], mhausenblas, Sandro, +1.914.461.aacc, +1.617.752.aadd, Cory, cygri, +0203334aaee, JeniT,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were edsu, +1.865.576.aaaa, +1.573.522.aabb, Ivan, DaveReynolds, [IPcaller], mhausenblas, Sandro, +1.914.461.aacc, +1.617.752.aadd, Cory, cygri, +0203334aaee, JeniT,

14:33:58 <Zakim> ... +1.617.619.aaff, +03539149aagg, +1.805.560.aahh, +7.942.aaii, laurent_lefort_cs, +1.617.521.aajj, [CTIC], martinSpain, danbri, Brand, Rachel, +1.303.869.aakk, +1.410.965.aall,

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.617.619.aaff, +03539149aagg, +1.805.560.aahh, +7.942.aaii, laurent_lefort_cs, +1.617.521.aajj, [CTIC], martinSpain, danbri, Brand, Rachel, +1.303.869.aakk, +1.410.965.aall,

14:34:00 <Zakim> ... +1.303.869.aamm, +1.559.445.aann

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.303.869.aamm, +1.559.445.aann

14:50:23 <sandro> just about to send it out, cygri

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Sandro Hawke: just about to send it out, cygri

14:50:31 <sandro> finishing adding logistics

Sandro Hawke: finishing adding logistics

14:54:49 <cygri> cheers sandro, and thanks for the plug during the meeting!

Richard Cyganiak: cheers sandro, and thanks for the plug during the meeting!

21:08:08 <Rachel> #quit

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Rachel Flagg: #quit



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