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<sandro> Guest: Todd Vincent
12:53:38 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-egov-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-egov-irc ←
12:53:47 <sandro> zakim, this wil be egov
Sandro Hawke: zakim, this wil be egov ←
12:53:47 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this wil be egov', sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'this wil be egov', sandro ←
12:53:54 <sandro> zakim, this will be egov
Sandro Hawke: zakim, this will be egov ←
12:53:54 <Zakim> ok, sandro; I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, sandro; I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes ←
12:58:28 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has now started ←
12:58:35 <Zakim> + +1.202.651.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.651.aaaa ←
12:59:14 <Daniel_Bennett> aaaa is Daniel Bennett
Daniel Bennett: aaaa is Daniel Bennett ←
12:59:17 <Zakim> +johnlsheridan
Zakim IRC Bot: +johnlsheridan ←
13:00:35 <Zakim> + +1.202.441.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.441.aabb ←
13:00:39 <Daniel_Bennett> note Daniel is in noisy coffee house. I will stay on mute and type. (chance I may need to leave at 10am)
Daniel Bennett: note Daniel is in noisy coffee house. I will stay on mute and type. (chance I may need to leave at 10am) ←
13:00:54 <Zakim> + +1.410.992.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.410.992.aacc ←
13:01:05 <Daniel_Bennett> hi Joe
Daniel Bennett: hi Joe ←
13:01:12 <Daniel_Bennett> remind Joe to go on IRC
Daniel Bennett: remind Joe to go on IRC ←
13:01:46 <Daniel_Bennett> and that way he can send links
Daniel Bennett: and that way he can send links ←
13:02:18 <Daniel_Bennett> thanks John
Daniel Bennett: thanks John ←
13:02:21 <Zakim> + +1.303.748.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.303.748.aadd ←
13:02:43 <Zakim> +Brand
Zakim IRC Bot: +Brand ←
13:04:02 <Zakim> - +1.303.748.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.303.748.aadd ←
13:04:08 <Zakim> + +1.859.408.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.859.408.aaee ←
13:04:09 <Zakim> +Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←
13:04:17 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking? ←
13:04:33 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: +1.410.992.aacc (8%), +1.859.408.aaee (83%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: +1.410.992.aacc (8%), +1.859.408.aaee (83%) ←
13:04:38 <Zakim> -Brand
Zakim IRC Bot: -Brand ←
13:04:39 <sandro> zakim, drop aaee
Sandro Hawke: zakim, drop aaee ←
13:04:40 <Zakim> + +1.303.748.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.303.748.aaff ←
13:04:40 <Zakim> +1.859.408.aaee is being disconnected
Zakim IRC Bot: +1.859.408.aaee is being disconnected ←
13:04:41 <Zakim> - +1.859.408.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.859.408.aaee ←
13:05:12 <Zakim> +Brand
Zakim IRC Bot: +Brand ←
13:05:21 <sandro> Hey +1-859-408 person -- you were causing LOUD static on the line.
Sandro Hawke: Hey +1-859-408 person -- you were causing LOUD static on the line. ←
13:05:23 <Daniel_Bennett> i miss jose's hold music
Daniel Bennett: i miss jose's hold music ←
13:06:01 <Zakim> +kevin
Zakim IRC Bot: +kevin ←
13:06:30 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:06:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.202.651.aaaa, johnlsheridan (muted), +1.202.441.aabb, +1.410.992.aacc, Sandro, +1.303.748.aaff (muted), Brand, kevin
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.202.651.aaaa, johnlsheridan (muted), +1.202.441.aabb, +1.410.992.aacc, Sandro, +1.303.748.aaff (muted), Brand, kevin ←
13:06:45 <Zakim> + +1.859.408.aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.859.408.aagg ←
13:06:51 <Daniel_Bennett> Daniel says hi to Kevin
Daniel Bennett: Daniel says hi to Kevin ←
13:07:05 <Daniel_Bennett> 651 is daniel
Daniel Bennett: 651 is daniel ←
13:07:11 <Daniel_Bennett> that's me
Daniel Bennett: that's me ←
13:07:14 <Daniel_Bennett> on mute
Daniel Bennett: on mute ←
13:07:24 <sandro> zakim, aaaa is Daniel_Bennett
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aaaa is Daniel_Bennett ←
13:07:24 <Zakim> +Daniel_Bennett; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Daniel_Bennett; got it ←
13:07:27 <Daniel_Bennett> I did at beginning
Daniel Bennett: I did at beginning ←
13:07:48 <sandro> zakim, aabb is George_Thomas
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aabb is George_Thomas ←
13:07:48 <Zakim> +George_Thomas; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +George_Thomas; got it ←
13:08:15 <sandro> zakim, aacc is Joe_Carmel
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aacc is Joe_Carmel ←
13:08:15 <Zakim> +Joe_Carmel; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Joe_Carmel; got it ←
13:08:19 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:08:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan (muted), George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, +1.303.748.aaff (muted), Brand, kevin, +1.859.408.aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan (muted), George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, +1.303.748.aaff (muted), Brand, kevin, +1.859.408.aagg ←
13:08:40 <sandro> zakim, aaff is Brian_Gryth
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aaff is Brian_Gryth ←
13:08:40 <Zakim> +Brian_Gryth; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Brian_Gryth; got it ←
13:08:57 <sandro> zakim, aagg is Todd_Vincent
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aagg is Todd_Vincent ←
13:08:57 <Zakim> +Todd_Vincent; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Todd_Vincent; got it ←
13:09:05 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:09:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan (muted), George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth (muted), Brand, kevin, Todd_Vincent
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan (muted), George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth (muted), Brand, kevin, Todd_Vincent ←
13:09:13 <Daniel_Bennett> Sandro: asking for phone participants
Sandro Hawke: asking for phone participants [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:09:25 <Daniel_Bennett> Sandro: reading out roll
Sandro Hawke: reading out roll [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:09:30 <johnlsheridan> unmute me
John Sheridan: unmute me ←
13:09:37 <sandro> zakim, unmute johnlsheridan
Sandro Hawke: zakim, unmute johnlsheridan ←
13:09:37 <Zakim> johnlsheridan should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: johnlsheridan should no longer be muted ←
13:10:13 <Daniel_Bennett> John: first thing on the agenda is the 14th of Nov. any scribe volunteers?
John Sheridan: first thing on the agenda is the 14th of Nov. any scribe volunteers? [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:10:27 <Daniel_Bennett> John: picks himself... graciously
John Sheridan: picks himself... graciously [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:10:49 <Daniel_Bennett> John: that is the 14th of Oct
John Sheridan: that is the 14th of Oct [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:11:29 <sandro> action-1?
13:11:29 <trackbot> ACTION-1 -- Ari Schwartz to open a new section in the wiki for use cases for his TF -- due 2008-07-02 -- CLOSED
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-1 -- Ari Schwartz to open a new section in the wiki for use cases for his TF -- due 2008-07-02 -- CLOSED ←
13:11:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/1
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/1 ←
13:11:50 <Daniel_Bennett> John: review of open items. please post link to IRC
John Sheridan: review of open items. please post link to IRC [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:11:53 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/open
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/open ←
13:12:54 <Daniel_Bennett> John: Action 3 and 14 are old. 70 has moved on, first with Keven.
John Sheridan: ACTION-3 and 14 are old. 70 has moved on, first with Keven. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:13:25 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: original white paper, has been met/superceded by Data.gov response
Kevin Novak: original white paper, has been met/superceded by Data.gov response [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:13:43 <sandro> close action-70
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-70 ←
13:13:43 <trackbot> ACTION-70 draft white paper closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-70 draft white paper closed ←
13:13:47 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: we have moved on from original
Kevin Novak: we have moved on from original [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:13:54 <Daniel_Bennett> John: close 70
John Sheridan: close 70 [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:14:34 <Daniel_Bennett> John: leave 14 open and check on Action 3
John Sheridan: leave 14 open and check on ACTION-3 [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:14:40 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking? ←
13:14:50 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: johnlsheridan (4%), Joe_Carmel (9%), kevin (81%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: johnlsheridan (4%), Joe_Carmel (9%), kevin (81%) ←
13:14:57 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: leave Action 3 open. still looking into partnership/etc
Kevin Novak: leave ACTION-3 open. still looking into partnership/etc [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:15:37 <Daniel_Bennett> John: Action 71 was Jose. There is a working draft on HTML5 and RDFa?
John Sheridan: ACTION-71 was Jose. There is a working draft on HTML5 and RDFa? [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:15:58 <Daniel_Bennett> Sandro: Doesn't know
Sandro Hawke: Doesn't know [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:16:17 <Daniel_Bennett> Daniel: is working on it
Daniel Bennett: is working on it [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:16:45 <sandro> close action-84
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-84 ←
13:16:45 <trackbot> ACTION-84 Support and reach out to other AC reps to encourage support of eGov Charter closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-84 Support and reach out to other AC reps to encourage support of eGov Charter closed ←
13:16:46 <Daniel_Bennett> Daniel: talked with Kevin and will have more next meeting
Daniel Bennett: talked with Kevin and will have more next meeting [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:16:54 <Daniel_Bennett> John: closing 84
John Sheridan: closing 84 [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:17:24 <Daniel_Bennett> John: Action 89 is still on
John Sheridan: ACTION-89 is still on [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:17:59 <Daniel_Bennett> John: question about attending by Kevin suggested by Sharron
John Sheridan: question about attending by Kevin suggested by Sharron [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:18:29 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: about attending TPAC
Kevin Novak: about attending TPAC [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:18:41 <Zakim> + +1.404.822.aahh
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.404.822.aahh ←
13:18:41 <Daniel_Bennett> so where does it stand?
Daniel Bennett: so where does it stand? ←
13:19:05 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: still on me
Kevin Novak: still on me [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:19:31 <Daniel_Bennett> John: Action 92. reach out to agencies
John Sheridan: ACTION-92. reach out to agencies [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:19:40 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: yes, leave it open
Kevin Novak: yes, leave it open [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:19:57 <Daniel_Bennett> John: Action 93 on Sandro
John Sheridan: ACTION-93 on Sandro [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:20:20 <Daniel_Bennett> Sandro: no responses so close Action 93
Sandro Hawke: no responses so close ACTION-93 [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:20:45 <Daniel_Bennett> John: leave it open and now push it as item for others to do
John Sheridan: leave it open and now push it as item for others to do [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:20:52 <sandro> revise action as: try to get people to use it...
Sandro Hawke: revise action as: try to get people to use it... ←
13:20:56 <Daniel_Bennett> John: let's move on to Charter review
John Sheridan: let's move on to Charter review [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:21:31 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2009/06/eGov/ig-charter
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/2009/06/eGov/ig-charter ←
13:22:01 <Daniel_Bennett> Sandro: can say that it looks good but no official
Sandro Hawke: can say that it looks good but no official [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:22:12 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: has heard good feedback
Kevin Novak: has heard good feedback [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:22:31 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: possibility of getting additional assistance
Kevin Novak: possibility of getting additional assistance [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:22:37 <Zakim> -Todd_Vincent
Zakim IRC Bot: -Todd_Vincent ←
13:22:48 <Zakim> +??P30
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P30 ←
13:22:53 <Daniel_Bennett> Sandro: we got healthy 15 or so comments on Charter
Sandro Hawke: we got healthy 15 or so comments on Charter [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:22:55 <josema> zakim, ??P30 is me
José Alonso: zakim, ??P30 is me ←
13:22:55 <Zakim> +josema; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +josema; got it ←
13:23:08 <Daniel_Bennett> John: next steps. internal review in w3c
John Sheridan: next steps. internal review in w3c [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:23:21 <Daniel_Bennett> Sandro: next week is now set for review
Sandro Hawke: next week is now set for review [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:23:35 <josema> agenda?
José Alonso: agenda? ←
13:23:42 <Daniel_Bennett> John: any questions on the charter review?
John Sheridan: any questions on the charter review? [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:23:45 <Daniel_Bennett> silence
Daniel Bennett: silence ←
13:23:50 <Daniel_Bennett> more silence
Daniel Bennett: more silence ←
13:23:54 <sandro> sandro has changed the topic to: next IG call: Sep 30, AGENDA: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2009Sep/0028.html
Sandro Hawke: sandro has changed the topic to: next IG call: Sep 30, AGENDA: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2009Sep/0028.html ←
13:24:06 <josema> zakim, who's here?
José Alonso: zakim, who's here? ←
13:24:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth (muted), Brand, kevin, +1.404.822.aahh, josema
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth (muted), Brand, kevin, +1.404.822.aahh, josema ←
13:24:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see josema, joec, Zakim, RRSAgent, Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, hughb, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see josema, joec, Zakim, RRSAgent, Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, hughb, sandro, trackbot ←
13:24:12 <Daniel_Bennett> John: lets move on to next agenda. where do we go on from here.
John Sheridan: lets move on to next agenda. where do we go on from here. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:24:29 <sandro> Topic: Where to go from here?
13:24:31 <josema> regrets+ rachel
José Alonso: regrets+ rachel ←
13:24:43 <Daniel_Bennett> John: in particular within scope of charter
John Sheridan: in particular within scope of charter [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:25:24 <Daniel_Bennett> John: what would make the participants happy doing?
John Sheridan: what would make the participants happy doing? [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:25:45 <Daniel_Bennett> Joe: throws something out. at face to face... we talked about best practices
Joe Carmel: throws something out. at face to face... we talked about best practices [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:26:48 <Daniel_Bennett> Daniel: call for use cases. compiling them. analysis of uses cases. value add on what gov does.
Daniel Bennett: call for use cases. compiling them. analysis of uses cases. value add on what gov does. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:27:04 <Daniel_Bennett> Joe: about cataloging the data
Joe Carmel: about cataloging the data [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:27:27 <Daniel_Bennett> Joe: what is the data that govs actually have and what can be done
Joe Carmel: what is the data that govs actually have and what can be done [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:27:54 <Daniel_Bennett> Joe: those are the two things that interest me.
Joe Carmel: those are the two things that interest me. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:28:34 <Daniel_Bennett> John: most efforts into government data piece. esp. linked data
John Sheridan: most efforts into government data piece. esp. linked data [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:28:57 <Daniel_Bennett> Daniel: can we go round robin asking folks on the call?
Daniel Bennett: can we go round robin asking folks on the call? [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:29:17 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:29:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth (muted), Brand, kevin, +1.404.822.aahh, josema
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth (muted), Brand, kevin, +1.404.822.aahh, josema ←
13:29:46 <Daniel_Bennett> thanks
Daniel Bennett: thanks ←
13:29:57 <Daniel_Bennett> on mute
Daniel Bennett: on mute ←
13:29:59 <Zakim> +AdamHarvey
Zakim IRC Bot: +AdamHarvey ←
13:30:10 <Daniel_Bennett> so cant talk
Daniel Bennett: so cant talk ←
13:30:13 <Daniel_Bennett> ah
Daniel Bennett: ah ←
13:30:15 <AdamHarvey> Sorry I'm late!
Adam Harvey: Sorry I'm late! ←
13:30:40 <Daniel_Bennett> I am looking to see finding use cases and comparing to best practices
Daniel Bennett: I am looking to see finding use cases and comparing to best practices ←
13:30:54 <Daniel_Bennett> and evaluating according to w3c standards
Daniel Bennett: and evaluating according to w3c standards ←
13:31:21 <sandro> Kevin: EO group includes linked data, but also all the Web 1.0 stuff, including accessibility, etc.
Kevin Novak: EO group includes linked data, but also all the Web 1.0 stuff, including accessibility, etc. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
13:31:23 <Daniel_Bennett> and also cataloging use cases with analysis/annotation
Daniel Bennett: and also cataloging use cases with analysis/annotation ←
13:31:31 <Daniel_Bennett> (reminder on mute)
Daniel Bennett: (reminder on mute) ←
13:32:11 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking? ←
13:32:21 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Daniel_Bennett (35%), johnlsheridan (4%), Brand (90%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Daniel_Bennett (35%), johnlsheridan (4%), Brand (90%) ←
13:32:38 <Daniel_Bennett> Brand: how we can get more involved in data.gov
Brand Niemann: how we can get more involved in data.gov [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:32:54 <Daniel_Bennett> Brand: especially in approaching Vivek Kundra
Brand Niemann: especially in approaching Vivek Kundra [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:33:13 <Daniel_Bennett> Brand: data.gov effort looking to RDFa
Brand Niemann: data.gov effort looking to RDFa [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:34:10 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: reached out and the feedback was that a govt only group. only employees. I stated we are ready to help here at W3C egov.
Kevin Novak: reached out and the feedback was that a govt only group. only employees. I stated we are ready to help here at W3C egov. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:34:13 <johnlsheridan> doesn't the memo say gov is participative?
John Sheridan: doesn't the memo say gov is participative? ←
13:35:52 <Daniel_Bennett> Brand: still closed
Brand Niemann: still closed [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:36:23 <Daniel_Bennett> Brand: hoping this group can be part. data.gov looks like RDFa positive.
Brand Niemann: hoping this group can be part. data.gov looks like RDFa positive. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:36:24 <josema> I believe George referred to this doc with his comments: http://george.thomas.name/omb/HHS_Comments_Data.gov_Conops.doc
José Alonso: I believe George referred to this doc with his comments: http://george.thomas.name/omb/HHS_Comments_Data.gov_Conops.doc ←
13:37:29 <AdamHarvey> Thanks, Jose...
Adam Harvey: Thanks, Jose... ←
13:38:13 <sandro> (um, who is speaking?)
Sandro Hawke: (um, who is speaking?) ←
13:38:25 <johnlsheridan> George
John Sheridan: George ←
13:38:31 <sandro> (thanks)
Sandro Hawke: (thanks) ←
13:38:49 <Daniel_Bennett> George: speaking to data.gov
George Thomas: speaking to data.gov [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:39:11 <Daniel_Bennett> George: stated the URL for his comments
George Thomas: stated the URL for his comments [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:39:42 <Daniel_Bennett> (who is speaking? please announce yourself before speaking. thanks)
Daniel Bennett: (who is speaking? please announce yourself before speaking. thanks) ←
13:40:01 <johnlsheridan> currently it is brand
John Sheridan: currently it is brand ←
13:40:23 <Daniel_Bennett> Brand: Ontology and data models for government. Brand is leading part of the effort.
Brand Niemann: Ontology and data models for government. Brand is leading part of the effort. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:40:58 <Daniel_Bennett> Brand: mentions the conferences next week
Brand Niemann: mentions the conferences next week [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:41:22 <AdamHarvey> Speak up Daniel...
Adam Harvey: Speak up Daniel... ←
13:41:47 <sandro> Daniel: I'll be speaking at the XBRL+W3C conference next week. If anyone is interested go to ....
Daniel Bennett: I'll be speaking at the XBRL+W3C conference next week. If anyone is interested go to .... [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
13:42:03 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2009/03/xbrl/cfp.html
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/2009/03/xbrl/cfp.html ←
13:42:20 <Daniel_Bennett> yes, thanks sandro
Daniel Bennett: yes, thanks sandro ←
13:42:56 <Daniel_Bennett> and Diane Mueller
Daniel Bennett: and Diane Mueller ←
13:43:22 <josema> zakim, who's here?
José Alonso: zakim, who's here? ←
13:43:22 <Zakim> On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan (muted), George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth (muted), Brand, kevin, +1.404.822.aahh, josema, AdamHarvey
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan (muted), George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth (muted), Brand, kevin, +1.404.822.aahh, josema, AdamHarvey ←
13:43:23 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: several folks will be there
Kevin Novak: several folks will be there [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:43:26 <Zakim> On IRC I see tb, AdamHarvey, josema, joec, Zakim, RRSAgent, Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, hughb, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see tb, AdamHarvey, josema, joec, Zakim, RRSAgent, Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, hughb, sandro, trackbot ←
13:43:29 <Daniel_Bennett> silence
Daniel Bennett: silence ←
13:43:34 <josema> john, if you are speaking, you are muted!
José Alonso: john, if you are speaking, you are muted! ←
13:44:14 <Daniel_Bennett> he is on mute again
Daniel Bennett: he is on mute again ←
13:44:18 <Daniel_Bennett> take him off
Daniel Bennett: take him off ←
13:44:21 <johnlsheridan> can you hear me
John Sheridan: can you hear me ←
13:44:24 <josema> ack jo
José Alonso: ack jo ←
13:44:30 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:44:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan (muted), George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth (muted), Brand, kevin, +1.404.822.aahh, josema, AdamHarvey
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan (muted), George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth (muted), Brand, kevin, +1.404.822.aahh, josema, AdamHarvey ←
13:44:33 <johnlsheridan> I'll dial back in
John Sheridan: I'll dial back in ←
13:44:35 <Daniel_Bennett> it says he is muted
Daniel Bennett: it says he is muted ←
13:44:35 <josema> zakim, unmute johnlsheridan
José Alonso: zakim, unmute johnlsheridan ←
13:44:35 <Zakim> johnlsheridan should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: johnlsheridan should no longer be muted ←
13:45:15 <Zakim> + +49.178.404.aaii
Zakim IRC Bot: + +49.178.404.aaii ←
13:45:40 <Daniel_Bennett> John: asking around about participants interest.
John Sheridan: asking around about participants interest. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:46:01 <tb> Thomas bandholtz is calling from Germany
Thomas Bandholtz: Thomas bandholtz is calling from Germany ←
13:46:21 <sandro> zakim, aaii is Thomas_Bandholtz
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aaii is Thomas_Bandholtz ←
13:46:21 <Daniel_Bennett> Adam: already on ETF. wants to help translate techspeak especially for local govts
Adam Harvey: already on ETF. wants to help translate techspeak especially for local govts [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:46:23 <Zakim> +Thomas_Bandholtz; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Thomas_Bandholtz; got it ←
13:46:45 <Daniel_Bennett> John: this is consistent with our efforts
John Sheridan: this is consistent with our efforts [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:46:46 <Zakim> +??P35
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P35 ←
13:49:05 <Daniel_Bennett> Jose: working on a couple of projects. spending most of time on projects that open gov data involved.
José Alonso: working on a couple of projects. spending most of time on projects that open gov data involved. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:50:03 <Zakim> + +1.202.270.aajj
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.270.aajj ←
13:50:37 <Daniel_Bennett> Jose: we still need to put out W3Cstandards. dealing with proprietary formats.
José Alonso: we still need to put out W3Cstandards. dealing with proprietary formats. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:51:54 <Daniel_Bennett> Jose: it is complicating the point of open gov data
José Alonso: it is complicating the point of open gov data [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:51:54 <Daniel_Bennett> Joe: are you chartered to look at cataloging gov looking at standards.
Joe Carmel: are you chartered to look at cataloging gov looking at standards. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:51:57 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: a lot of agencies dealing with legacy data.
Kevin Novak: a lot of agencies dealing with legacy data. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:51:59 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: how can we aid agencies with this problem set.
Kevin Novak: how can we aid agencies with this problem set. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:52:01 <Daniel_Bennett> we should address those that need 100% solutions for data to be useful vs. those that can just move on with new data.
Daniel Bennett: we should address those that need 100% solutions for data to be useful vs. those that can just move on with new data. ←
13:52:16 <Daniel_Bennett> missed. who is speaking
Daniel Bennett: missed. who is speaking ←
13:52:30 <josema> we are building a number of transformers, but it's hard and most are adhoc due to how legacy data was archived :(
José Alonso: we are building a number of transformers, but it's hard and most are adhoc due to how legacy data was archived :( ←
13:53:05 <Daniel_Bennett> Brian: Local govt need esp. help on this. this is my interest with outreach to locals.
Brian Gryth: Local govt need esp. help on this. this is my interest with outreach to locals. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:54:06 <Daniel_Bennett> John: we have similar issue. my experience does not hire those folks
John Sheridan: we have similar issue. my experience does not hire those folks [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:55:56 <Daniel_Bennett> Brian: no money for this work
Brian Gryth: no money for this work [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:58:19 <Daniel_Bennett> Joe: talking about just having raw data. and then allow others to overlay documentation.
Joe Carmel: talking about just having raw data. and then allow others to overlay documentation. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:58:42 <Daniel_Bennett> Brian: lets at least catalog.
Brian Gryth: lets at least catalog. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
13:59:28 <Daniel_Bennett> how about open sourcing the conversion of gov docs. like recaptcha
Daniel Bennett: how about open sourcing the conversion of gov docs. like recaptcha ←
13:59:30 <Daniel_Bennett> ?
Daniel Bennett: ? ←
14:00:18 <Daniel_Bennett> Joe: it is possible to do PDF things like include embedded xml and named locations.
Joe Carmel: it is possible to do PDF things like include embedded xml and named locations. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:00:38 <Zakim> -Brand
Zakim IRC Bot: -Brand ←
14:00:49 <Daniel_Bennett> Daniel: that is not standard practice and does not apply to legacy docs. and adobe looking to Mars Project.
Daniel Bennett: that is not standard practice and does not apply to legacy docs. and adobe looking to Mars Project. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:01:49 <Daniel_Bennett> Brian: resources lack and IT lack is holding folks back.
Brian Gryth: resources lack and IT lack is holding folks back. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:02:27 <Daniel_Bennett> Brian: human speak is better than geek speak at getting gov folks to see importance of good data practices
Brian Gryth: human speak is better than geek speak at getting gov folks to see importance of good data practices [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:03:04 <Daniel_Bennett> John: is there anyone more to speak?
John Sheridan: is there anyone more to speak? [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:05:13 <Daniel_Bennett> ThomasB: Inspire project
Thomas Bandholtz: Inspire project [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:05:29 <Daniel_Bennett> (missed part due to phone and hard to hear)
Daniel Bennett: (missed part due to phone and hard to hear) ←
14:05:56 <Daniel_Bennett> John: i am on the Inspire project
John Sheridan: i am on the Inspire project [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:06:20 <Daniel_Bennett> John: looking to this for implementation.
John Sheridan: looking to this for implementation. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:06:24 <sandro> http://inspire.jrc.ec.europa.eu/ Inspire, Spacial Data Infrastructure
Sandro Hawke: http://inspire.jrc.ec.europa.eu/ Inspire, Spacial Data Infrastructure ←
14:06:55 <johnlsheridan> it's all very top down
John Sheridan: it's all very top down ←
14:07:25 <Daniel_Bennett> ThomasB: project of mashups with Google maps ...
Thomas Bandholtz: project of mashups with Google maps ... [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:09:16 <Zakim> -kevin
Zakim IRC Bot: -kevin ←
14:09:22 <Daniel_Bennett> ThomasB: we are publishing more
Thomas Bandholtz: we are publishing more [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:09:45 <Daniel_Bennett> ThomasB: from outside of Inspire. see how it can be linked up.
Thomas Bandholtz: from outside of Inspire. see how it can be linked up. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:10:14 <Daniel_Bennett> John: some of the problems and issues related to the law versus what is possible.
John Sheridan: some of the problems and issues related to the law versus what is possible. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:10:38 <Daniel_Bennett> John: last call for participants.
John Sheridan: last call for participants. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:10:41 <josema> zakim, who's here?
José Alonso: zakim, who's here? ←
14:10:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth, +1.404.822.aahh, josema, AdamHarvey, Thomas_Bandholtz, ??P35, +1.202.270.aajj
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth, +1.404.822.aahh, josema, AdamHarvey, Thomas_Bandholtz, ??P35, +1.202.270.aajj ←
14:10:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see Vagner, tb, AdamHarvey, josema, joec, Zakim, RRSAgent, Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, hughb, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Vagner, tb, AdamHarvey, josema, joec, Zakim, RRSAgent, Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, hughb, sandro, trackbot ←
14:10:54 <Daniel_Bennett> Todd: has been lurking this group.
Todd Vincent: has been lurking this group. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:11:01 <josema> zakim, aajj is probably Todd_Vincent
José Alonso: zakim, aajj is probably Todd_Vincent ←
14:11:01 <Zakim> +Todd_Vincent; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Todd_Vincent; got it ←
14:11:02 <Daniel_Bennett> Todd: interested in web standards.
Todd Vincent: interested in web standards. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:11:25 <Daniel_Bennett> Sandro: personal interest. help provide with tech stuff.
Sandro Hawke: personal interest. help provide with tech stuff. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:11:31 <johnlsheridan> http://blogs.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/digitalengagement/post/2009/09/30/Calling-Open-Data-Developers-We-need-your-help.aspx
John Sheridan: http://blogs.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/digitalengagement/post/2009/09/30/Calling-Open-Data-Developers-We-need-your-help.aspx ←
14:12:08 <Daniel_Bennett> John: on issue of linked data.. soft launch of data.gov like service
John Sheridan: on issue of linked data.. soft launch of data.gov like service [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:12:20 <sandro> johnlsheridan: We're doing the VERY SOFT launch of the UK equiv of data.gov today. Preview access on request.
John Sheridan: We're doing the VERY SOFT launch of the UK equiv of data.gov today. Preview access on request. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:12:24 <Daniel_Bennett> John: ask for log in to see
John Sheridan: ask for log in to see [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:12:51 <Daniel_Bennett> John: if you go to link then go to google group
John Sheridan: if you go to link then go to google group [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:12:51 <AdamHarvey> http://groups.google.com/group/uk-government-data-developers/
Adam Harvey: http://groups.google.com/group/uk-government-data-developers/ ←
14:13:52 <josema> zakim, ??P35 is probably vagner
José Alonso: zakim, ??P35 is probably vagner ←
14:13:52 <Zakim> +vagner; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +vagner; got it ←
14:14:54 <Daniel_Bennett> Vagner: we are developing new stuff for open gov.
Vagner Diniz: we are developing new stuff for open gov. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:15:13 <Daniel_Bennett> can you post links Vagner?
Daniel Bennett: can you post links Vagner? ←
14:16:37 <Zakim> -Todd_Vincent
Zakim IRC Bot: -Todd_Vincent ←
14:17:40 <josema> topic: Legislation and Citations
14:17:40 <joec> http://legislink.org/us
Joe Carmel: http://legislink.org/us ←
14:17:40 <Zakim> -George_Thomas
Zakim IRC Bot: -George_Thomas ←
14:18:00 <johnlsheridan> People are already building stuff around our legislation API, eg: http://github.com/robmckinnon/legislation-uk
John Sheridan: People are already building stuff around our legislation API, eg: http://github.com/robmckinnon/legislation-uk ←
14:18:34 <johnlsheridan> the UK legislation API is at www.legislation.gov.uk - and we're surfacing some RDF too, with more to come.
John Sheridan: the UK legislation API is at www.legislation.gov.uk - and we're surfacing some RDF too, with more to come. ←
14:19:27 <Vagner> link to an XML open data project in Brazil: http://projeto.lexml.gov.br/documentacao/resumo-em-ingles
Vagner Diniz: link to an XML open data project in Brazil: http://projeto.lexml.gov.br/documentacao/resumo-em-ingles ←
14:19:32 <AdamHarvey> I just got pulled into a meeting,... have to leave.
Adam Harvey: I just got pulled into a meeting,... have to leave. ←
14:19:38 <Zakim> -AdamHarvey
Zakim IRC Bot: -AdamHarvey ←
14:20:20 <Daniel_Bennett> Joe: discussing a method of providing links to gov docs including sub/anchored links
Joe Carmel: discussing a method of providing links to gov docs including sub/anchored links [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:20:44 <Daniel_Bennett> Joe: need to help govt w/ overlay
Joe Carmel: need to help govt w/ overlay [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:21:35 <Daniel_Bennett> Daniel says that having open data, allows overlays like legislink independent of gov. does not keep gov from doing anything.
Daniel Bennett: Daniel says that having open data, allows overlays like legislink independent of gov. does not keep gov from doing anything. ←
14:22:27 <Daniel_Bennett> is a value add that can help influence gov. as opposed to current practice of bad data that private firms fix/normalize and then provide expensive access
Daniel Bennett: is a value add that can help influence gov. as opposed to current practice of bad data that private firms fix/normalize and then provide expensive access ←
14:28:08 <Zakim> -Daniel_Bennett
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Daniel_Bennett ←
14:29:21 <josema> rrsagent, pointer?
José Alonso: rrsagent, pointer? ←
14:29:21 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-egov-irc#T14-29-21
RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-egov-irc#T14-29-21 ←
14:30:46 <josema> rrsagent, draft minutes
José Alonso: rrsagent, draft minutes ←
14:30:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-egov-minutes.html josema
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-egov-minutes.html josema ←
14:33:33 <josema> [scribe disconnected]
José Alonso: [scribe disconnected] ←
14:33:38 <josema> rrsagent, draft minutes
José Alonso: rrsagent, draft minutes ←
14:33:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-egov-minutes.html josema
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-egov-minutes.html josema ←
14:36:57 <josema> [ADJOURNED]
José Alonso: [ADJOURNED] ←
14:37:27 <Zakim> - +1.404.822.aahh
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.404.822.aahh ←
14:37:29 <Zakim> -Brian_Gryth
Zakim IRC Bot: -Brian_Gryth ←
14:37:30 <Zakim> -josema
Zakim IRC Bot: -josema ←
14:37:33 <Zakim> -johnlsheridan
Zakim IRC Bot: -johnlsheridan ←
14:37:36 <Zakim> -vagner
Zakim IRC Bot: -vagner ←
14:37:37 <Zakim> -Joe_Carmel
Zakim IRC Bot: -Joe_Carmel ←
14:37:38 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
14:37:40 <Zakim> -Thomas_Bandholtz
Zakim IRC Bot: -Thomas_Bandholtz ←
14:37:41 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended ←
14:37:42 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.202.651.aaaa, johnlsheridan, +1.202.441.aabb, +1.410.992.aacc, +1.303.748.aadd, Brand, +1.859.408.aaee, Sandro, +1.303.748.aaff, kevin, +1.859.408.aagg,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +1.202.651.aaaa, johnlsheridan, +1.202.441.aabb, +1.410.992.aacc, +1.303.748.aadd, Brand, +1.859.408.aaee, Sandro, +1.303.748.aaff, kevin, +1.859.408.aagg, ←
14:37:45 <Zakim> ... Daniel_Bennett, George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Brian_Gryth, Todd_Vincent, +1.404.822.aahh, josema, AdamHarvey, +49.178.404.aaii, Thomas_Bandholtz, +1.202.270.aajj, Todd_Vincent?,
Zakim IRC Bot: ... Daniel_Bennett, George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Brian_Gryth, Todd_Vincent, +1.404.822.aahh, josema, AdamHarvey, +49.178.404.aaii, Thomas_Bandholtz, +1.202.270.aajj, Todd_Vincent?, ←
14:37:48 <Zakim> ... vagner?
Zakim IRC Bot: ... vagner? ←
14:37:55 <joec> thanks everyone
Joe Carmel: thanks everyone ←
14:40:30 <sandro> RRSAgent, make record public
Sandro Hawke: RRSAgent, make record public ←
14:47:12 <joec> still here daniel?
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Joe Carmel: still here daniel? ←
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