Jason White, Jibari Simmons, Matt May, Avi Arditti, Wendy Chisholm, Michael Cooper, Roberto Scano, Gian Sampson-Wild, Ben Caldwell, Gregg Vanderheiden, Lisa Seeman, Bengt Farre
Doyle Burnett, John Slatin, Lee Roberts, Loretta Guarino Reid, Cynthia Shelly, Andi Snow-Weaver
if look at content and web resources: content says "anything rendered byuser agent" resource
"...and rendered by UA" thus, resource is any content accessed through webprotocols.
except resources lists things not listed under content
if content is anything rendered by UA and accessed through protocols.
resources is a subset of content.
circularity. content is anything rendered by ua. ua is anything thatrenders content.
anything rendered by UA implies image and text. to say anything between
start and end tag would mean "just text"
since img referenced by attribute
don't see are the other aspects, alt-tag renderable by ua but text? content?
seems to miss out on functonality.
what is the defn of functionality?
what about format info?
info sent to ua but how rendered is up to ua
is that content?
perhaps content is any info sent to ua?
defn from UAAG is written technical. there are items of content that don'tappear in a DOM.
but are part of content
want more restrictive defn or broader?
perhaps to a thing can have content and ua features, our guidelines apply
to only content-like features.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/1999JulSep/0203.html might be ok for defn to be circular
put Web in front of content, these are running on devices that support a
variety of mime types
is #3 a defn?
It is used in the terms non-text content and text content"
basically a see also
Brainstorming - an even fuzzier definition perhaps, but maybe content is"information transmitted to a user"
"info conveyed to users"
ways that we use "content" in the current draft
what we mean is a part or a section or a complete web page
all of those terms could be replaced by section
not just page - site or application
"anything rendered by ua" might pick up all that we need.
might work. might not want to take as normative uaag defn
if so, then need to discuss with UAWG
action michael: propose new defn for word content (try for monday, 5 may)
action gian: go through document looking at use of the word content. look for ambiguous uses, places where it could be replaced with anothe word, etc. (try for early next week)
what about the debatable items?
michael will consider while drafting
web applications are user agent
web resources: use similar to uaag defn
same server? same ip address?
A web site is a collection or combination of linked resources that can be
accessed and rendered through or started from a single URI
also a definition could be find here:
it's the URI that we focus on.
if you in a uri, anything with that base uri is the site.
every page is a different uri
think that http://www.w3.org/1999/05/WCA-terms/ need a working group for
mantain updated :-/
there is a w3c glossary project underway :)
QA is taking responsibility
use defn from f2f until hear otherwise
prefer the administrative defn
currently overbroad and doesn' thave much meaning
action jason: draft a defn for web site based on today's discussion