WL Phone situation?
WC Not sure yet, Daniel working on.
WL JW and GV attending by phone?
WC Yes.
JW WC hosting
WC Please bring questions for David, particularly what questions do you want answered and what questions do you have on process.
WL Is part of this testing usability of guidelines for people writing sites?
WC Right, how usable are the guidelines not how usable are sites that are produced using the guidelines.
WC Clarifying WCAG 1.0 - on agenda for F2F? Had discussed a while ago.
JW Need a subgroup to volunteer to write it. Clear dimensions of its scope.
WC Therefore goal of that discussion is to define scope and find people work on.
CMN People are coming along with concrete solutions and examples. We discuss but don't come to clear consensus. We need to go through the questions that we already have. Bring them up and say "can we agree that one of these is the answer?"
WC Dig through archives at the meeting or before?
CMN do it before, but I'm not going to.
KHS Going over the same questions.
WC List divided into 3 month chunks
KHS Not same e-mail, same questions.
CMN DOn't see a problem in that.
WL It may be that the process of doing the FAQ is the road to improving techniques.
JW If it is an issue related to specific technology, then those should be directed to subgroups. Resolved in the context of 2.0.
WC Find hands on, people doing work very useful. Perhaps part of dividing up into techniques.
WL ORganizing FAQ a way to get stuff for technique.
CMN Yes a consequence. The crucial thing is that lots of people implementing, people getting stuck.
KHS Who be there?
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CMN Risk of too much breaking up, lots of people knowing a chunk and everyone knowing only little chunk.
WC Yes, but if say at the end, "here are the 5 questions we came up with. these 4 are not answered.etc." CMN - AU specific questions.
CMN AERT issues. Part of agenda of AU F2F in Boston.
WC Status?
JW GV has proposal, go through guidelines, determine clarifications of reasonableness. On agenda for the F2F next week.
WC Part of the testability discussion next week?
JW Yes.
WL Originally, "give users control..." hasn't gotten any clearer.
JW WL action item to go through guidelines and which need clarification.
WL Thought I had fulfilled. Put it to the list.
WC How do we move it forward?
WL Several revised languages for it. No one has voted.
GV We should probably try to condense it. Perhaps leave it until after F2F. Don't think there is controversy. Sit down with wording then walk it through phone call and close it out. Think F2F for bigger issues.
JW Yes, though larger issue of where qualifications are needed is the kind of question to discuss at the meeting.
WL People should look at public version of XML guidelines as guidelines for guidelines. How to write good guidelines. What ours should fit into. They will not be recommendation, not as constrained by process.
$Date: 2001/06/14 21:56:35 $ Wendy Chisholm