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Conference number: 2894
JR: Jan Richards
JT: Jutta Treviranus
DG: Doug Grude (Adobe)
MM: Matt May
JB: Judy Brewer
PJ: Phill Jenkins
PV: Patrick Vartuli (Comp. Sci. Corp)
KM: Kirk Mcullough (Comp. Sci. Corp)
LN: Liddy Nevile
LNG: Lou Nell Gerard (Microsoft)
CMN: Charles McCathieNevile
HS: Heather Swayne
JT: Introduces agenda items.
JB: Introduces Matt as the new staff contact: JT is the chair of the group. CMN was team staff contact until December. JB took over with JR helping out. MM started today - he has been a volunteer editor for WCAG for awhile. ATAG 1.0 released in Feb. 2000. Still collecting implementations. Next version of ATAG will be synchronized with WCAG 2.0.
MM: introduces himself - e-commerce development (UI's, etc.)
DG: introduces himself - has been driving WAI corporate-wide at Adobe- ensuring docs, customer support etc.
PV: Developing on-line course systems at CSC
KM: Instructional designer at CSC - trying to make courses 508 compliant
PJ: at IBM, involved AUWG, Web Accessibility Steering Committee
LN: working with IMS and Dublin Core Init.
JT: Chair, directs ATRC at Univ. of Toronto, on IMS
JT: The F2F Jul 15 - Monday PM, Jul 16 - Tuesday ALL DAY
JT: Is everyone agreed on goals of meeting are to work on the evaluation techniques and a compliance document?
JT: We may want to meet with WCAG and IMS. IMS is an online learning consortium (works on metadata, learner info, content packaging). IMS has an accessibility working group (IMS-AWG).
JT: We also want to finalize compliance policy at the F2F and they are working on some of the same issues.
JB: We should have some joint discussion with IMS. IMS joined us in Cannes and there was good info exchange.
JT: Do we want to meet with GL as well?
JB: GL is quite busy.
PJ: WCAG is higher priority than IMS-AWG for the F2F. We have a clear dependency on WCAG but not on IMS-AWG.
JR: Agree.
DG: What about a dinner meeting?
JB: Formal meetings are sometimes easier in terms of communication support technology, etc.
PJ: What about if we put together a ATAG=>WCAG dependency document to discuss with GL.
ACTION ITEM: PJ: Start an ATAG=>WCAG dependency document
LN, JB: support F2F contact with IMS-AWG.
JT: IMS whitepaper getting close to final draft
JB: Was there cross reference of the IMS whitepaper by ATAG?
JT: Not formally. But the compliance issue we want to discuss in July is not part of that draft.
JB: What about a F2F discussion of collaboration details such as document sharing?
JT: We can probably get IMS-AWG stuff but not some of the other IMS group docs.
ACTION ITEM: JT: Will contact both IMS-AWG and WCAG to try and arrange F2F contact.
JB: We need an announcement and meeting page for the upcoming F2F.
DG: Will there be a conference call connection to F2F?
JT: Yes. But it will probably be limited - and we will be sure to reserve resolution voting for those times.
JB: How many confirmations for the F2F?
JT: Eight people.
PJ: His confirmation is tentative.
MM: The Linz hotels are very inexpensive.
JT, JR, MM: Will post good travel info.
JR: [presents point 1 of eval tech issues]
PJ: We should not do a step-by-step - but we should point to normative WCAG format-specific techniques.
JR: Agreed - but we need to keep in mind that we are working on eval techs for ATAG 1.0.
JT: The step-by-step test suite idea was introduced to make the compliance process easy.
PJ: Would like to see test files, test sites. Would like to see repeatable tests.
LN, JT: What about the problem of developers making tools to pass specific tests.
MM: From WCAG point of view, there comes a point where the stuff outside the angle brackets becomes difficult.
JT: We don't want step-by-step but we do want metrics to enhance inter-rater reliablity. Default time for next meeting is noon, June 17.
ACTION ITEM: JT: Will send some new meeting times.
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