Agenda-Topics-References for QA F2F Meeting, October 8, 2002

Detailed Agenda

The overall schedule for all days is to start at 9am, and finish at 5pm. The meeting room and network will not be available other hours, however allegedly the wireless network is accessible from the hall outside.

Day 1, 08 October, 2002, detailed schedule:

0930 Welcome, Roll Call, WG Membership topic(s), Meeting logistics
- room/network availability
- attendance matrix (/QA/Group)
- meeting agenda
0945-1230 Joint IG/WG topics (??topic ordering??)
- A Week in QA [7]: Status, staff, comments/suggestions
- Outreach to team, chairs(, public)
  - current TAG liaison report (KD) (#45)
  - How to get more feedback to QAWG from WGs?
  - Clarify manditoriness (how?)
  - Chairs meeting presentation?
  - Tech plenary presentation
  - visit/evangelize each W3C team (telecons weekly) by domains?
  - WGs' telecons outreach: "canned" short session, "what's coming up for you in QA in 15min"?
  - a brainstorming session (outreach strategies) with Janet and/or Judy Brewer?
- How to get more participation in the WG? Future of the WG?
- "Life after the Framework" for IG/WG
- Process for QA WG and IG
- Reviews
  - look at schedule [8]
  - requested reviews (e.g., SOAP, WCAG20)
  - proactive charter/ops review? (#36 [closed])
  - proactive spec review? (per SpecGL [4]) (#10 [closed], #36)
  - current CR reviews by QA Team
- EARL
- Telecon schedule
?? Morning Break?
1330-1700 Test and spec-tech topics
- Some TS demos
- Spec-tech (Specification Technology)
  - Survey results assessment [10, @@new email?]
  - Conclusions relative to Spec GL and guidelines therein
  - Roadmap - prototype project?
  - Reply -- action item.
- Proposal for a "Test Group" [3], #35
  - Review of DD proposal
  - Rationale
  - Proposed organization
  - Resources
  - Deliverables
  - Issues wrt. W3C Member Company commitment
- EARL and QA
??1500-1530 Break??
1700 Adjourn for day

Day 2, 09 October, 2002, detailed schedule:

Quote of the day: "perfect is the enemy of good"
0900-1030 TestGL topics
- TestGL draft review and issues discussion [12]
1045-1100 Break
1045-1230 SpecGL/ET issues
- schedule (roadmap [11], issue #68)
- reviews matrix 4th column [8]
- SpecET update (KD--"in time")
- issues
1230-1330 Lunch
1330-1400 Demos (KG)
1400-1530 SpecGL/ET issues
1530-1545 Break
1500-1730(?) SpecGL/ET issues

Day 3, 10 October, 2002, detailed schedule:

0900-0930 Test WG topic
0930-1230 SpecGL/ET issues
- issues
1045-1100 Break
1230-1330 Lunch
1330-1445 SpecGL/ET issues
- remaining TS demos?
- issues
1445-1500 Break
1500-1700 Wrapup, AI review, schedule review

Unscheduled topics

QAWG position on Errata proposal
UAAG CR request (QA Team)
OpsGL and other issues
- "Test license" issues (KG) (#49, #50)
- OpsGL "charter" issue & existing WGs (#60)
Framework document formats (break-out?)
- changes for Guide-Extech maintenance
- XHTML with a few new 'class' attributes?
- xmlspec [5] eventually?
- dependence on Extech issues resolutions (#67 [closed], #68)

Open issues

Note. In brackets, [...], is the affected document, if any.

Non-SpecGL open issues.

#68: Document status of ExTech parts [AllFrm]
#60: QA responsibilities of existing WGs [OpsGL]
#50: liability from 3rd-party TM usage [OpsGL]
#59: W3C standard license for submitted test materials [OpsGL]
#14: How to do E&O [Process?]
#23: Tests for SHOULD/MAY [TestGL?]
#32: Guidelines/checkpoints for branding [Ops]
#43: Relationship of "Certification Note" and Framework [AllFrm]
#79: Should Test Guidelines address how to write a good test suite? [TestGL]
#35: QAWG supply resources to WG to build TM [OpsGL]?]

SpecGL open issues:

#87: Should the SpecGL elaborate on DoV definition and discussion.
#88: SpecGL objective and value
#89: Is the SpecGL a spec?
#101: Should the GL documents use conformance levels instead of prioritized checkpoints?

#80 - #101: recent 20020826-generated issues
#69: Discourage flavors of conformance [SpecGL]
#61: Require standard terminology? [SpecGL] (implicitly closed?)
#15: Address/define valid conformance claims? [SpecGL] (partly closed?)
#51: Deprecated features [SpecGL] (implicitly closed?)
#64: choice of MUST/SHOULD/MAY [SpecGL]
#13: Interstandard and multi-standard conformance [SpecGL?]
#61: Should standard terminology be required? [SpecGL] (implicitly closed?)
#73: Should SpecGL require atomicity of modules? [SpecGL]
#74: What is the scope of the minimality of level 1 in a leveled technology? [SpecGL]
#75: What is the relationship of modules and levels? [SpecGL]
#76: What is the relationship of levels and profiles? [SpecGL]
#77: Should SpecGL have any different requirements for older specifications? [SpecGL]
#78: Should Guideline 8 have a checkpoint proscribing implementation dependent features? [SpecGL]
#80 - #101

These issues relate to OpsGuide and the pending "QAWG Process" document, therefore are postponed until the latter is drafted.

#24: Appeal process if QAWG rejects WG request [OpsGL, Process]
#53: Handling WG requests to QAWG [OpsGL, Process].

References

The meeting will focus on the published versions and latest WG versions of:

Action Items List (http://www.w3.org/QA/WG/ActionItems)
Issues List (http://www.w3.org/QA/WG/qawg-issues-html.html)
"Test Group" proposals: original, @@revised?
- (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa-wg/2002Apr/0007.html)
- (@@second?)
QA Framework documents (http://www.w3.org/qa/wg/#docs)
Guide to the W3C XML Specification ("XMLspec") DTD, Version 2.1 (http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/06/xmlspec-report.htm)
QA Glossary (http://www.w3.org/QA/glossary)
"A Week in QA," current edition (@@http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/06/weekinqa-??).
Reviews matrix (http://www.w3.org/QA/Group/2002/06/reviews)
WCAG 2.0 requirements (http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-wcag2-req-20020426, http://www.w3.org/TR/wcag2-req/)
Spec-tech survey summary? (no new document, verbal presentation)
Framework publication roadmap (http://www.w3.org/QA/WG/roadmap)
@@new TestGL draft for Tokyo meeting?
WCAG 2.0 draft (http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-WCAG20-20020822/)