ISSUE-428: 4.3.2 emphasis spans

4.3.2 emphasis spans

State:
CLOSED
Product:
webvtt1
Raised by:
Addison Phillips
Opened on:
2015-02-26
Description:
bugzilla: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28262

then
github: https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/228

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  7. [Bug 28262] [webvtt] 4.3.2 emphasis spans [I18N-ISSUE-428] (from bugzilla@jessica.w3.org on 2016-11-10)
  8. [Bug 28262] [webvtt] 4.3.2 emphasis spans [I18N-ISSUE-428] (from bugzilla@jessica.w3.org on 2016-10-12)
  9. [Bug 28262] [webvtt] 4.3.2 emphasis spans [I18N-ISSUE-428] (from bugzilla@jessica.w3.org on 2016-10-11)
  10. [Bug 28262] [webvtt] 4.3.2 emphasis spans [I18N-ISSUE-428] (from bugzilla@jessica.w3.org on 2015-10-30)
  11. [Bug 28262] [webvtt] 4.3.2 emphasis spans [I18N-ISSUE-428] (from bugzilla@jessica.w3.org on 2015-06-27)
  12. [Bug 28262] [webvtt] 4.3.2 emphasis spans [I18N-ISSUE-428] (from bugzilla@jessica.w3.org on 2015-06-01)
  13. [Bug 28262] [webvtt] 4.3.2 emphasis spans [I18N-ISSUE-428] (from bugzilla@jessica.w3.org on 2015-03-24)
  14. [Bug 28262] [webvtt] 4.3.2 emphasis spans [I18N-ISSUE-428] (from bugzilla@jessica.w3.org on 2015-03-24)
  15. Re: [webvtt] 4.3.2 emphasis spans [I18N-ISSUE-428] (from silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com on 2015-03-22)
  16. [webvtt] 4.3.2 emphasis spans [I18N-ISSUE-428] (from addison@lab126.com on 2015-03-20)
  17. [minutes] Internationalization WG telecon 2015-03-19 (from ishida@w3.org on 2015-03-19)
  18. I18N-ISSUE-428: emphasis spans ⓟ [WebVTT] (from sysbot+tracker@w3.org on 2015-02-26)

Related notes:

This was rejected. We need to check the arguments.

Richard Ishida, 23 Jul 2015, 11:26:38

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/7

Richard Ishida, 16 Mar 2016, 19:44:16

Changelog:

Created issue 'emphasis spans ⓟ' nickname owned by Addison Phillips on product WebVTT, description 'http://www.w3.org/TR/webvtt1/#webvtt-cue-text

A variety of spanning mechanisms, such as bold, italic, and underline are provided. Some languages use different emphasis forms. Should these emphasis types also be provided?' non-public

Addison Phillips, 26 Feb 2015, 01:38:10

title changed to '4.3.2 emphasis spans ⓟ'

Richard Ishida, 18 Mar 2015, 17:27:37

Description changed to '4.3.2 WebVTT cue text
http://www.w3.org/TR/webvtt1/#webvtt-cue-text

A variety of spanning mechanisms, such as bold, italic, and underline are provided. Some languages use different emphasis forms. Should these emphasis types also be provided?

We advise against presentational markup of this kind, since it isn't interoperable across writing systems and may cause unnecessary problems for localisation. (The HTML5 specification has also proposed that these tags should be used more along semantic lines.) In the HTML case, there was a legacy issue, but here we don't see one, and recommend instead that styling be used to determine the presentation of the text.

For some of the issues associated with <b> and <i> tags, see http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-b-and-i-tags
'

Richard Ishida, 18 Mar 2015, 17:27:37

title changed to '4.3.2 emphasis spans'

Addison Phillips, 20 Mar 2015, 20:30:27

Description changed to 'bugzilla: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28262



4.3.2 WebVTT cue text
http://www.w3.org/TR/webvtt1/#webvtt-cue-text

A variety of spanning mechanisms, such as bold, italic, and underline are provided. Some languages use different emphasis forms. Should these emphasis types also be provided?

We advise against presentational markup of this kind, since it isn't interoperable across writing systems and may cause unnecessary problems for localisation. (The HTML5 specification has also proposed that these tags should be used more along semantic lines.) In the HTML case, there was a legacy issue, but here we don't see one, and recommend instead that styling be used to determine the presentation of the text.

For some of the issues associated with <b> and <i> tags, see http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-b-and-i-tags
'

Richard Ishida, 24 Mar 2015, 14:01:34

Description changed to 'bugzilla: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28262

then
github: https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/228

'

Richard Ishida, 16 Nov 2015, 13:28:42

Status changed to 'closed'

Richard Ishida, 16 Mar 2016, 19:44:16


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