<lisa> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/101569/2017-10-12_priorities/results

<lisa> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2017OctDec/0244.html

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:COGA

<lisa> scribe: kirkwood

updates: TPAC, Personalization TF, Disseminating wcag 2.1

Lisa: updates at conference with Inclusion in Spain, lots of stuff followingEU easy reading guidleines

<lisa> http://easy-to-read.eu/

:S: should incoroporate into what we are doing

S: /LS:

LS: John K do you want to let me know about what brought up yesterday

sorry don’t recall

LS: WCAG main governing body to get through CR, let me find timelines for WCAG

<lisa> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/WCAG_2.1_timeline

LS: think it was five maybe less in our achievable ones
... they want to go to CR by September 12
... want to get out of CR by June 2018
... does everyone know what CR is?

Andy: don’t know

LS: want to explain if makes sense
... the W3C process before working draft becomes a specification make final working draft which is CR candidate recommendation
... fefore becomes a recommendation like on september 12
... before can be pulished there is a whole bunch of things before September 12
... if they are not confident long process maybe thereee months, only want ot put in things that have all required before support to goto redcommendation
... september 12 is very important to get full support
... wnat most of things and commitments, ideally everything inp place by september 12
... just ecplaing toeveryone what rec is don’t have to all implementation in place when go to cndidate recommendation
... good ananylisi of CR?

Yaninina: last stage C then P then T is the stages
... TR satisfied you have done it

Yanina: as far ahow much needs to be done for WCAG specifically not in group
... probable correct if distandt futre not immediately at hand COGA is just one of them

<JohnRochford> "Yanina" =

<JohnRochford> Janina

LS: lets dsay they need five coonformance pages and have 4 think they will be happy

Yaninina: i would expect to be correct

LS: any questions?

Yanina: Proposed recommendationd and Technoal Recommendation
... Proposed and Techncial

<lisa> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2017OctDec/0244.html

LS: who’s doing what to get it through
... need to identify techniques
... if we need two and we only got one
... with techniques it depends if we have one everyone can use we are ok
... if we have one and could use another than tow is ok

tow/two

LS: again we have until September 12
... we need to test using two technolgies or user agents
... that means it can be used

;)

LS: we need to show that we have got it working
... in siome places that is the personlization task force
... with that we need implementation of website
... webistes
... need to find out what is necessary for documenations
... inot SC need to show technology support widely usable
... thaat means differnt implementations that show it works
... firefox, chrome windoss android, apple
... if show that we’re done
... need to show implementation of webites performing
... five at A, four at AA and atleast two AAA
... and addr4ess all complaints and issues raised
... go through them to see if we’ve got all these things

<lisa> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Accepted_WCAG_2.1_SC

<lisa> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Accepted_WCAG_2.1_SC MichaelC https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/WCAG_2.1

LS: this page undersanding document, think michael put in IRC a while ago

two more here if they’re tracking we don’t need to

LS: understanding document if available
... checking where other is
... we need to do tracking that we’ve got all these things in place
... what can people do in terms of implenation, make conforming website, getting hold of tehcnologies
... purpose of controls

<lisa> Timeouts

LS: lets start with onte thats iesier timeouts

<lisa> http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/master/guidelines/index.html#timeouts

Timeouts link coming

LS: we’re going to need exampoles of it working

exampoles/examples

LS: we only need one in AAA
... we need a page that has a warning
... all we need is an exmple of a warning
... just a page or two that does that
... do we have that?

<lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/13hmoaVU563kTio1EZD5mbNxcc0k924qVdZZwWckcbu0/edit

LS: give exmples of pages of data being preserved for 24 hours
... we might already have some pages that do that
... would benefit from examples
... not aware if we have it, find one or two pages that conform using technique offered
... might be in techniques document
... does anyone have the of the techniques document

JR: I’m focused on accessible authentication

LS: do you have link to techniques we’re creating
... I’m looking for techniques doeument

doeument/document

<lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YiknHDDDdKBdwVTEpxwUpyCaQL_tnpp9CfDlFjCq16E/edit#heading=h.803zleyfz8or

LS: wnat to find implementaion support for different techniques
... we don’t have exact examples, github ddoesn’t have timeouts
... we need one example
... do you htink that is enough for timeouts
... we have one example that doesn’t timeout

Yanina: my guess is yes

LS: i think for AAA that is enough

Yanina: i was supposed to make a comment

LS: interuptions is next one

Yanina: let me say somehting about puch api and have had a victory in APA. not good to interupt people
... don’t want interuption principal is going into notifications API
... i expect we will buidl on that
... looking at permissions right now and you should know that

Ls: will go into the idea of being widely supported

Yanina: research talking about focues tracing and situation divice that is context azware thatere is a lot bubbling up

LS: look at personlization task force dealing with those use cases

Yanina: coming up form differnt directions helps us succeed

LS: easily suppress interuptrions need technique for this and four exmaples of it working
... we need four web pages that conform
... bechause AA need a bit better
... find four websites that conform to this page?

<lisa> iq?

four conforming webistes to interruptions conform to SC link here

<lisa> ACTION: johnkirkwwod to find for implention websites for interuptions - IE four websites that conform to the success cryteria http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/master/guidelines/index.html#interruptions-minimum [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/26-coga-minutes.html#action01]

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<lisa> ACTION: kirkwwod to find for implention websites for interuptions - IE four websites that conform to the success cryteria http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/master/guidelines/index.html#interruptions-minimum [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/26-coga-minutes.html#action02]

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might need to write extra techniques

<lisa> ACTION: kirkwood to find for implention websites for interuptions - IE four websites that conform to the success cryteria http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/master/guidelines/index.html#interruptions-minimum [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/26-coga-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-246 - Find for implention websites for interuptions - ie four websites that conform to the success cryteria http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/master/guidelines/index.html#interruptions-minimum [on John Kirkwood - due 2017-11-02].

LS: thats tow down thats fantastic
... exmple accessible authentification
... need examples of sites conforming
... i know ther are sites out there to find them

JF: I will find that

<lisa> ACTION: rochford to find for implention websites for accessible authentification success cryteria [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/26-coga-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-247 - Find for implention websites for accessible authentification success cryteria [on John Rochford - due 2017-11-02].

JR/JF

LS: contextual information
... hopefull can get things going with this one. need an implementaion that is working
... understand thats a lot more owrk

owrk/work

LS: getting four pages working with that, aren’t any unless you include, are four working right now if you allow using web autofill specification
... do need for every site of some sites, ineed to shck with WCAG

shck/check

<lisa> ACTION: check with wcag if each item listed needs impletion in pourpose of controls, and if autocomplete is included [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/26-coga-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Error finding 'check'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.

<lisa> ACTION: lisa check with wcag if each item listed needs impletion in pourpose of controls, and if autocomplete is included [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/26-coga-minutes.html#action06]

LS: giving myself an action itme to see if auto complete is included

<trackbot> Created ACTION-248 - Check with wcag if each item listed needs impletion in pourpose of controls, and if autocomplete is included [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2017-11-02].

LS: I would supect would be defined, autocomplet pages will work for the item in list of identifying controls
... for aspect doesn’t control need to build web pages

anyone interested in working on it

LS: anyone interested in working on it?

Neil: our rep have put him forward and should get confirmation to join task force

NM: slammed but hopefully Mark can help

LS: hopefully get some pages together orgfanization where symbols can be added

EA: don’t quite understand it could you emial it to me
... if you could email me iwht requirments and I can see ehat i can do

LS: great I can do it

EA: bad time flat out with lectures right now, we are slammed with it. but send me details i can see what i can do
... got to be done be December 12
... minutes wrong saying September 12 should be Decemeber 12

<Pietro> http://www.autismeurope.org/easy-to-read

<JohnRochford> Have to join the Low Vision TF conference now

LS: we’ve got same kind of thing with meta data but need one implementation of different aspects
... anyone interested in doing the meta data one

<lisa> http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/master/guidelines/index.html#contextual-information

LS: its more broad but need to show one implementaion, of contextual information
... anyone interested in working on an implementation of that one?

<lisa> zalim, next item

LS: I think we’re reasonably ok

Comments on the SC's (see https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/211)

LS: about comments that WCAG is responding to the comments

WCAG: writing very general comments people say interuptions should be A but AAA

LS: what WCAG wants is comments on an idividual level
... if each issue is a separate comment
... if we say should be AA or AAA or, each comment has to be addressed
... if separte items in github they can be responed to better

easy reading guidlines and our document

LS: if there are any comments in WCAG list worth tracking too

APA items https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:COGA

LS: we just have another minute review understanding section for all diferent task forces
... we should review to see if anything object to ini it

<lisa> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Accepted_WCAG_2.1_SC

LS: i’ll send ot list and track in list, understanding sections in SC that isn’t ours and see if anything we should add
... if people can comment on here that would be great

no problem

LS: any last minure questions?

correction needed to minutes “ they want to go to CR by September 12” Should read “ they want to go to CR by December 12”

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