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06:46:03 <kaz> regrets: Darko
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12:00:07 <kaz> Meeting: WoT IG/WG
12:00:30 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Taki_Kamiya, Zoltan_Kis
12:00:36 <kaz> Chair: McCool
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12:07:31 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Toru_Kawaguchi, Uday_Davuluru
12:08:25 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Agenda
12:08:38 <taki> Scribe: TK
12:08:38 <kaz> scribenick: taki
12:08:42 <taki> ScribeNick: taki
12:09:25 <taki> MM: Any agenda item suggestion?
12:09:38 <taki> MM: We discussed TPAC.
12:09:48 <taki> MM: Any quick updates?
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12:10:02 <taki> Kaz: PlugFest logistics
12:10:17 <kaz> i/Any agenda/topic: Agenda/
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12:10:41 <taki> DP: Poster issue is not resolved.
12:10:50 <taki> MM: OK. Let's discuss later.
12:10:52 <barryleiba> present+ Barry_Leiba
12:11:08 <kaz> present+ Takeshi_Yamada
12:11:12 <taki> TOPIC: Publication schedule
12:11:54 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_Security_WebConf#Schedule Security schedule
12:12:06 <taki> MM: Has all TF published schedules in Wiki?
12:12:53 <taki> MM: Scripting has not posted yet.
12:13:35 <taki> Zoltan: It is not easy to tell the schedule at this moment. A lot of discussion is going on.
12:13:53 <taki> MM: People need to work on schedule.
12:14:07 <taki> MM: Matthias was working on Current Practices document.
12:14:32 <taki> DP: He is currently working on it. How much more work is necessary, I don't know.
12:14:45 <taki> TOPIC: TPAC Registration
12:14:49 <kaz> i/Matthias/topic: Current Practices/
12:15:07 <taki> MM: PlugFest registration is open till the end of the month.
12:15:12 <kaz> i|Has all|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf#Schedule TD schedule|
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12:15:27 <taki> MM: 25 people are registered.
12:15:45 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTPlugFest201711/results PlugFest registration results
12:16:08 <kaz> topic: TPAC Agenda
12:16:12 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_4-10_November_2017,_Burlingame,_CA,_USA#Agenda TPAC agenda
12:16:15 <taki> MM: Wednesday, web security, web commerce, we are gonna have joint meetings.
12:16:33 <taki> MM: In afternoon, we focus on Plugfest.
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12:17:06 <taki> MM: Web commerce joint meeting is on Thursday.
12:17:25 <taki> MM: Automotive WG joint meeting will be on Monday or Tuesday.
12:17:43 <kaz> (and Auto&Web Platform BG on Thursday)
12:17:46 <taki> MM: Device and sensors WG, we will invite them to PlugFest on Wednesday.
12:19:10 <taki> MM: Media and entertainment WG, cloud browser TF. There is possibility of them to use servient model. We should have discussion. Clound browser discussion will be Monday morning. Should invite them on Tuesday. I will continue discussion with them.
12:19:18 <taki> s/MM/Kaz/
12:19:34 <kaz> s/entertainment WG/entertainment IG/
12:19:42 <taki> MM: Banner posters.
12:19:47 <kaz> s/Clound/Cloud/
12:20:03 <taki> MM: We need a template. Matthias was mentioning template.
12:22:13 <kaz> taki: provided information on a banner poster at a local printing company
12:22:27 <kaz> ... 81cm x 203cm
12:22:27 <dape> q+ when do we need to hand in posters for printing
12:22:33 <kaz> ... almost same as the one for last year
12:22:40 <dape> q+ to when do we need to hand in posters for printing
12:22:41 <kaz> ... we can order it online
12:22:50 <kaz> MM: can get it next day?
12:22:55 <kaz> s/it/it printed/
12:23:05 <dape> ack dape
12:23:05 <Zakim> dape, you wanted to when do we need to hand in posters for printing
12:23:16 <kaz> taki: will check
12:23:17 <taki> DP: We first wanted to check whether the old template was OK.
12:23:34 <taki> DP: The size requirement is same as last week.
12:23:46 <taki> MM: Dinner schedule.
12:24:05 <taki> MM: Monday is out of scope because there is developer meetup.
12:24:10 <taki> s/MM/DP/
12:25:23 <kaz> [https://www.w3.org/2017/10/11-wot-minutes.html says "we should create doodle"]
12:25:56 <kaz> action: kaz to create a doodle for dinner (sat vs sun)
12:25:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-121 - Create a doodle for dinner (sat vs sun) [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2017-11-01].
12:25:59 <taki> MM: Let's do a doodle to decide whether Saturday or Sunday night is good for WoT dinner.
12:26:23 <taki> MM: Plugfest logistics.
12:26:38 <taki> MM: Fujitsu space will be big enough.
12:26:56 <taki> MM: We want to know how big is the room for the actual PlugFest in the hotel.
12:27:04 <taki> MM: Eg. how many tables, etc.
12:27:13 <taki> MM: We also need to collect requirements.
12:28:49 <taki> MM: I will create a template for this.
12:29:57 <taki> MM: Template for each participant to request Power, Space, Network, etc.
12:30:12 <taki> MM: Everybody should fill this table.
12:30:32 <taki> MM: Please go ahead to fill the table.
12:30:50 <taki> TOPIC: TF reports
12:31:19 <kaz> TD
12:31:22 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2017/10/20-wot-td-minutes.html TD minutes
12:31:30 <kaz> scribenick: kaz
12:31:48 <kaz> taki: meeting with JSON-LD 1.1 at TPAC
12:32:32 <kaz> ... SSN Ontology REC
12:33:02 <kaz> ... observable property
12:33:25 <kaz> mm: Darko working on semantic annotation
12:33:28 <kaz> ... myself as well
12:34:13 <kaz> taki: Darko and Victor can add annotation to TD if people can provide TD beforehand
12:34:30 <taki> TK reported on TD TF call...
12:34:34 <kaz> Scripting
12:34:38 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2017/10/23-wot-minutes.html Scripting minutes
12:34:57 <kaz> i/TK reported/scribenick: taki/
12:35:03 <taki> Zoltan: Several details and some principle are challenged. Dave has some proposal as well.
12:35:13 <taki> Zoltan: Nine issues are on-going.
12:35:22 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues Scripting issues
12:35:36 <zkis> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues
12:35:37 <taki> Zoltan: Here is the link to issues.
12:36:12 <taki> MM: I see issues in implementations.
12:36:31 <taki> Zoltan: Node.wot is still usable wrt. the current spec.
12:37:06 <taki> DP: There is one remaining issue related to some of the issues here. Only a slight difference.
12:37:15 <taki> MM: Is there any description?
12:37:21 <taki> DP: One minor issue.
12:37:59 <taki> DP: All capabilities are implemented. Please take a look.
12:38:22 <taki> MM: If we have description of the issue, that would be great.
12:38:33 <taki> DP: OK. I will do.
12:38:35 <taki> MM: Thanks
12:38:58 <taki> MM: Binding templates call was skipped this week.
12:39:11 <taki> MK: I made a pull request for HTML version.
12:39:22 <taki> MK: This is ready for review.
12:39:40 <taki> MK: Big issues are already rolled in.
12:40:06 <taki> MK: What I am showing now is my branch version.
12:40:31 <taki> MK: I still have identity issue. Please fix this.
12:40:38 <taki> MM: Can Kaz repair this?
12:41:10 <taki> MM: You need to link up your two accounts. Github and W3C.
12:41:45 <taki> Kaz: We need to tie two accounts using repository manager.
12:42:13 <taki> MK: I can check into it.
12:42:38 <taki> MK: Next, I want to describe TD examples.
12:42:57 <taki> MK: I will add that some time today.
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12:43:49 <taki> MM: Please let us know when you are ready.
12:44:09 <taki> MM: Let's merge as soon as possible.
12:44:15 <kaz> s/manager./manager, and provide a link for that purpose/
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12:44:35 <taki> MM: Security TF. We had some decisions made.
12:44:54 <taki> MM: We have release candidate for FPWD. This is informative.
12:44:56 <kaz> i/Binding templates call/Binding/
12:45:07 <taki> MM: No errors in respec.
12:45:16 <kaz> i/Security TF/Security/
12:45:29 <taki> MM: We have to make a request by tomorrow to get it published by TPAC.
12:45:42 <taki> MM: Are there any objections to make a request?
12:46:05 <taki> MM: There are many green spots indicating they are future work items.
12:46:20 <taki> MM: This is to get feedback.
12:46:28 <taki> MM: Any objections again?
12:46:33 <kaz> i|made a pull request|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/9 Binding pull request 9|
12:46:58 <taki> MM: Since last week, there were many changes. Simplified terminologies, eg.
12:47:20 <taki> MM: section 5. examples.
12:47:30 <taki> MM: We decided to add examples for each use case.
12:47:59 <taki> MM: Use cases such as: Do we need certificates for TD, etc.
12:48:25 <taki> MM: We are gonna mark it as draft.
12:48:37 <kaz> -> https://rawgit.com/w3c/wot-security/master/index.html Security&Privacy consideration draft
12:48:53 <taki> MM: Unless there is gonna be major objection within 24 hours, let's proceed.
12:49:07 <taki> Kaz: This is a Note, right?
12:49:17 <taki> MM: Yes. Informative WG Note.
12:50:00 <kaz> resolution: we'll publish the security&privacy consideration as a WG Note unless major objections within 24hours
12:50:25 <taki> MM: Adjorned.
12:50:32 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:50:36 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:50:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/10/25-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:50:45 <kaz> present+ Keiichi_Tokuyama
12:50:47 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:50:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/10/25-wot-minutes.html kaz
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12:51:02 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:51:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/10/25-wot-minutes.html kaz
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13:06:32 <kaz> rrsagent, bye
13:06:32 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/25-wot-actions.rdf :
13:06:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: kaz to create a doodle for dinner (sat vs sun) [1]
13:06:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/25-wot-irc#T12-25-56