12:47:58 RRSAgent has joined #rqtf 12:47:58 logging to http://www.w3.org/2017/09/27-rqtf-irc 12:48:00 RRSAgent, make logs world 12:48:00 Zakim has joined #rqtf 12:48:02 Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference 12:48:02 Date: 27 September 2017 12:48:55 agenda+ Accessibility of Virtual Reality - Preparation of Findings 12:50:03 agenda+ Questions posed to Web Authentication Working Group - Update 12:50:48 agenda+ Update - CAPTCHA Note - Revision by APA Working Group. 12:50:56 agenda+ Miscellaneous topics. 13:02:24 zakim, next item 13:02:24 agendum 1. "Accessibility of Virtual Reality - Preparation of Findings" taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:04:48 Judy has joined #rqtf 13:06:28 Janina clarifies that a Virtual Reality discussion won't occur at TPAC, but there's an upcoming VR workshop planned in December. 13:06:51 https://www.w3.org/2017/09/webvr-authoring-workshop/ 13:07:00 scribe: janina 13:07:14 jgw: Considering what remains to do to prepare our advice 13:07:15 scott_h has joined #rqtf 13:07:47 present+ 13:08:04 Scott notes that he'll be busy over the next week but available thereafter to work on the synopsis of VR research findings. 13:10:02 Janina notes the 5-7 December workshop. 13:10:41 Judy has joined #rqtf 13:10:59 Scott notes the importance of taking into account the scope and focus of the workshop. 13:11:06 Jason suggests we review the Web page later. 13:11:59 jgw: need details in Sec 2 -- Virtual Assistive Devices 13:12:10 jgw: Also to finish citations 13:12:21 present+ 13:12:32 rrsagent, make minutes 13:12:32 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/09/27-rqtf-minutes.html janina 13:14:35 jgw: Agreement to get this by the 11th 13:15:37 zakim, next item 13:15:37 agendum 2. "Questions posed to Web Authentication Working Group - Update" taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:17:48 Janina is about to negotiate a joint meeting with Web Authentication Working Group for late in the day (Thursday or Friday) at TPAC. 13:18:52 Janina suggests that the questions raised by this Task force be included among the agenda for the joint APA/Authentication WG meeting. 13:23:52 Scott notes recent work from Apple with their prominent announcement of facial recognition technology. 13:24:26 We agree that we need to find out more about their implementation and any Web-based access to it that might ensue. 13:25:01 We have considered the accessibility implications (e.g., for people with mobility difficulties for whom facing a mobile device - let alone looking directly at it - would tend to pose difficulties). 13:28:32 Jason notes E.U. and U.S. policy regarding the need for two distinct biological characteristics to be available in biometric authentication schemes. 13:32:13 Jason introduced the question of whether Web applications might need to support secondary authentication mechanisms if there are biometric devices in use that aren't accessible to all users. 13:32:55 Janina notes that these issues (of biometrics used in combination with other authentication mechanisms, and the implications of having accessibility services enabled on devices) are already arising in practice in mobile environments. 13:34:47 Janina concludes that all of the foregoing issues should be covered in the planned agenda for joint discussion with Web Authentcation WG. 13:36:16 zakim, next item 13:36:16 agendum 3. "Update - CAPTCHA Note - Revision by APA Working Group." taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:36:38 Janina intends to have a working draft in place before TPAC. 13:37:02 Janina: it isn't expected to be a time consuming drafting process. 13:37:59 Janina and Jason agree to coordinate on the drafting process. 13:38:14 zakim, next item 13:38:14 agendum 4. "Miscellaneous topics." taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:39:27 Scott: the Internet of Things project has been delayed due to time taken to complete ethics committee approval. The final report is expected to be completed by 20 October. 13:39:49 Scott should be able to summarize findings to the Task Force by that date. 13:41:01 The project investigates the literature and identifies user needs - a preliminary research phase that could lead to trials later. 13:42:23 Janina: there's a division between mobile and landline-based providers in the IoT space, with different protocols (for low-level communication) being preferred on each side. 13:44:51 Responding to a question by Jason, Janina suggests that the Web-based protocols are likely to enter into the story at the service layer (not even at the aggregation points where the data from various devices are obtained). 13:46:02 Scott notes interesting classroom applications of Internet of Things devices. 13:47:11 Janina notes increasing accuracy of navigation and positioning systems, together with the emergence of in-door navigation. 13:49:27 Jason notes the use of IoT devices to provide within-building positioning. 13:49:32 Janina has worked with prototypes. 13:54:31 We discussed the potential use of VR environments (constructed potentially on the basis of sensor or beacon input from the real environment) in providing orientation training to people with disabilities - including the prior literature on this subject in respect of people with cognitive disabilites learning new physical environments via VR. 13:54:50 present+ Judy 13:55:49 Scott will summarize the findings of his project at the RQTF meeting of 25 October. 14:02:32 zakim, bye 14:02:32 leaving. As of this point the attendees have been scott_h, janina, Judy 14:02:32 Zakim has left #rqtf 14:02:42 rrsagent, make minutes 14:02:42 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/09/27-rqtf-minutes.html jasonjgw 14:05:46 rrsagent, bye 14:05:46 I see no action items