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16:07:34 <trackbot> Meeting: Tracking Protection Working Group Teleconference
16:07:34 <trackbot> Date: 25 September 2017
16:07:34 <wileys> One rather significant request - apologies for the late nature of the request...
16:08:08 <wileys> Is it too late to get a new element added to the UGE submission?
16:08:59 <fielding> wileys, probably, since that would restart the review
16:09:02 <wileys> In discussion at the EU ad industry level it was determined a “purpose” dimension of the UGE is missing and will be required for DNT to be a vialble solution in the EU
16:09:43 <fielding> wileys, I would just use one of the text fields
16:09:56 <wileys> Okay - not sure what to do at this point then as the EU ad industry is stating DNT is DOA unless this addition is made.  How should I approach this?
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16:13:35 <fielding> [we are discussing this on the phone with Shane, but no scribe]
16:15:08 <fielding> q+
16:15:29 <schunter> ack fie
16:15:32 <wileys> Sure - can raise the issue in CR
16:15:44 <wileys> Where should I document this?
16:17:16 <wileys> How would one domain capture consent for two different practices?
16:19:51 <wileys> Option 1:  Use different sub-domains for each purpose
16:20:30 <wileys> Option 2:  Have the consent manager pass the inforrmation in the request to the 3rd party site (store in a cookie?)
16:21:19 <wileys> Honestly don’t believe either of these will be accepted by industry and they’ll continue to invest in other technical solutions than DNT
16:22:58 <fielding> I think it is worth exploring as an issue, but given the lack of implementations makes the UGE unusable right now, this is not worth pushing right now.
16:24:46 <dsinger> q+
16:25:33 <fielding> BTW, for Option 2, I meant pass it in the URL. If you can set a cookie for the third party, this is already solved.
16:25:58 <wileys> Roy, if we’re going to still need to use cookies then it is easier to just deal with cookies from the start
16:26:21 <fielding> I agree, if we can.
16:26:45 <wileys> True - referencing iOS11 Webkit
16:27:02 <fielding> I would have preferred to do the entire UGE framefork using parameters and cookies just to get out of this chicken-and-egg problem.
16:28:53 <dsinger> q?
16:30:50 <wileys> I’ll do my best to both document the issue and propose several solutions from an industry POV
16:30:57 <wileys> I have my marching orders :-)
16:31:28 <wileys> +q
16:31:31 <fielding> Issues go https://github.com/w3c/dnt/issues
16:31:32 <dsinger> q-
16:35:24 <wileys> Sorry for the possible delay :-)
16:35:46 <wileys> AGREED!
16:37:10 <fielding> Did we make a formal publish to CR decision?
16:41:01 <schunter> Consensus: Current draft will be published as revised CR.
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16:41:35 <fielding> present+
16:42:09 <fielding> present+ Shane, Matthias, Bert, dsinger
16:42:24 <fielding> zakim, list attendees
16:42:24 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been fielding, Shane, Matthias, Bert, dsinger
16:43:26 <Bert> present+ Jason Novak, Brendan, Alan Toner
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17:20:51 <fielding> trackbot, end meeting
17:20:51 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
17:20:51 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been fielding, Shane, Matthias, Bert, dsinger, Jason, Novak, Brendan, Alan, Toner
17:20:59 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
17:20:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/09/25-dnt-minutes.html trackbot
17:21:00 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
17:21:00 <RRSAgent> I see no action items