11:57:14 RRSAgent has joined #wot-sec 11:57:14 logging to http://www.w3.org/2017/08/28-wot-sec-irc 12:02:15 Meeting: WoT IG - Security 12:02:39 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Elena_Reshetova, Michael_Koster, Michael_McCool, Uday_Davuluru 12:04:35 elena has joined #wot-sec 12:04:45 zakim, pick a scribe? 12:04:45 I don't understand your question, kaz. 12:05:04 present+ Zoltan_Kis 12:05:14 scribenick: uday 12:07:21 mjkoster_ has joined #wot-sec 12:07:26 kaz can you help me here 12:07:43 having problems with webex 12:08:29 MK: Discusses issue 32 12:08:52 present+ Reshetova_Elena 12:09:55 MK: WoT Interface definition clarification 12:09:57 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/32 arechitecture issue 32 12:10:07 s/arechitecture/architecture/ 12:10:55 ER: in threat model, interfaces are directly exposed 12:10:56 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/blob/master/terminology.md terminlogy 12:11:18 MK: no separate WoT interface 12:12:03 (MK is McCool) 12:12:42 Topic: First draft 12:12:51 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/32 Thing Description issue 32 12:13:16 @@@ diff 12:13:27 MM: change WoT API to WoT interface 12:13:45 sorry kaz MM is Mcool 12:13:51 (MM is McCool) 12:15:07 https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fraw.githubusercontent.com%2Fw3c%2Fwot-thing-description%2Fmaster%2Findex.html&doc2=https%3A%2F%2Fraw.githubusercontent.com%2Fmmccool%2Fwot-thing-description%2Fsecurity%2Findex.html 12:15:15 HTML diff above 12:15:22 WoT API -> WoT Interface 12:15:30 API -> WoT Interface 12:15:46 WoT Protocol -> WoT Communication 12:16:17 ER: to update changes in Threat model document 12:16:31 s/@@@ diff// 12:17:13 topic: Architecture 12:17:18 MM: to clean content in TD document 12:17:36 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/32 Architecture issue 32 12:17:54 q+ 12:18:50 MM: restructuring architecture document 12:20:52 q? 12:21:02 MM: working on proposal of IEEE workshop 12:21:43 kaz: question about restructuring 12:22:05 MM: open issue about security consideration is deferred until first draft is out 12:22:38 MM: focus on current pull request on TD 12:23:17 kaz: should issue 32 be open? 12:23:58 s/open?/open? or once close it and create another issue for the second version after fpwd?/ 12:26:26 MM: 2 sections for "Security and Privacy" (3.3 and 4.6) 12:26:41 MM: architecture- security and privacy discussion 12:28:11 kaz: should we wait for first draft to close issue 32 12:28:16 MM: yes 12:30:07 MM: goes through changes in document 12:30:38 MM: will start to working on PR ofr architecture document 12:30:49 s/ofr/of/ 12:31:29 s|architecture document|architecture document once Matthias's PRs are merged (e.g., Thu/Fri)| 12:31:56 @Elena: can you post your comment here, sorry i missed it 12:33:32 mm: as Matthias mentioned, we need some more content for security consideration 12:33:36 elena: can work on i 12:33:43 s/on i/on it/ 12:33:52 ER: to come up with outline of topics needed for security considerations in Architecture doc 12:34:23 mm: we can talk about that next week but we can't include it into the FPWD 12:34:38 ... next week, would like to talk about the IEEE workshop as well 12:34:52 Sven Schrecker 12:35:24 from IIC Security Framework... seems willing to help with IEEE S&P "IoT Security" proposal 12:37:14 mm: program committee should include people from academia 12:37:50 Topics: Threat, risk models, and use cases (for IoT) Lightweight security mechanisms Challenges due to intermittent connectivity Enabling secure interoperability across ecosystems Privacy, identity, and metadata management Interplay between safety and security Integrating systems with different levels of security and trust Distributed trust systems (for example, blockchain) Security in information-centric networks 12:39:42 https://www.ieee-security.org/TC/SP2018/cfworkshops.html 12:42:06 kaz: you'll bring this proposal to the Chairs call on 30th. right? 12:42:07 mm: yes 12:43:11 ... any other topic? 12:43:12 @Kaz can you add your comment here 12:43:26 kaz: a possible IE guy from the DAS group? 12:44:13 ... let's have some more chat during the Chairs call 12:44:13 MM: need more connection between web security and WoT security 12:44:33 @@let's... to be moved here" 12:44:40 MM: to update the PR and update the TD for first wG draft 12:45:02 s/first wG draft/FPWD/ 12:45:22 MM: discuss IEEE S&P on Wednesday 30.08 12:45:43 MM: will update the references with corresponding items 12:46:12 [ adjourned ] 12:46:25 rrsagent, make log public 12:46:32 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:46:32 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/08/28-wot-sec-minutes.html kaz 13:25:41 zkis has joined #wot-sec 14:21:54 Zakim has left #wot-sec