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15:49:37 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
15:49:37 <trackbot> Date: 23 August 2017
15:49:44 <janina> agenda?
15:49:47 <janina> agenda+ preview agenda with items from two minutes
15:49:47 <janina> agenda+ TPAC 2017 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2017
15:49:47 <janina> agenda+ CSS Task Force -- Ian
15:49:47 <janina> agenda+ Push API Next Steps
15:49:48 <janina> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8
15:49:50 <janina> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
15:49:52 <janina> agenda+ Proposal re review attributions -- Michael
15:49:55 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
15:49:57 <janina> agenda+ next and future meetings
15:50:00 <janina> agenda+ be done
15:50:49 <janina>  present+
15:50:52 <janina> chair: janina
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16:03:04 <Gottfried> present+
16:05:01 <janina> regrets: leonie
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16:09:24 <IanPouncey> present+
16:09:48 <Gottfried> scribe: Gottfried
16:09:53 <janina> zakim, next item
16:09:53 <Zakim> agendum 1. "preview agenda with items from two minutes" taken up [from janina]
16:10:37 <janina> zakim, close this item
16:10:37 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
16:10:38 <Zakim> I see 9 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:10:38 <Zakim> 2. TPAC 2017 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2017 [from janina]
16:10:40 <janina> zakim, next item
16:10:40 <Zakim> agendum 2. "TPAC 2017 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2017" taken up [from janina]
16:10:41 <Gottfried> Gottfried: Liaison with JTC1 SC35 needs to be followed up.  Will send a message to Judy and Shadi.
16:11:00 <janina> zakim, close this item
16:11:00 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
16:11:01 <Zakim> I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:11:01 <Zakim> 3. CSS Task Force -- Ian [from janina]
16:11:03 <janina> zakim, next item
16:11:03 <Zakim> agendum 3. "CSS Task Force -- Ian" taken up [from janina]
16:12:03 <Gottfried> Ian: Contacted a few people for the task force.
16:12:26 <Gottfried> Ian: Will look at my action items by tomorrow.
16:12:39 <Gottfried> ... I cannot assign tickets to people on the tf.
16:13:00 <Gottfried> Michael: They should join the tf. Otherwise add them to the repo.
16:13:14 <Gottfried> s/on the tf/not on the tf
16:15:51 <janina> zakim, next item
16:15:51 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Push API Next Steps" taken up [from janina]
16:16:45 <Gottfried> Janina: See my message from the last hour.
16:17:18 <janina> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2017Aug/0017.html
16:18:13 <Gottfried> Janina: We should turn this around quickly. Is this sufficient?
16:18:33 <Gottfried> ... If people agree with this language, we can run a quick CFC this week.
16:19:12 <Gottfried> Michael: Will provide enhanced wording.
16:19:18 <Gottfried> Janina: No problem with that.
16:19:31 <janina> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2017Aug/0018.html
16:19:58 <Gottfried> Janina: PUSH API said that we should provide a fix for the Notification spec.
16:20:49 <Gottfried> ... This email proposes that some use cases are unaddressed, and we need a new section 2.12 Defer and Queue.
16:21:39 <Gottfried> ... I suppose someone should write code for the use case "Defer and Queue".
16:21:47 <Gottfried> ... Who could do that?
16:22:06 <Gottfried> ... At least we would have filed an issue on this.
16:23:15 <Gottfried> s/"Defer and Queue"/"Do Not Disturb"
16:23:35 <Gottfried> Michael: Shane is typically the guy for this.
16:23:43 <Gottfried> Janina: I will ask him.
16:24:05 <Gottfried> Michael: Would need to read the Notification spec.
16:24:19 <Gottfried> Janina: Fortunately, it is not a long spec.
16:24:30 <MichaelC> Accessibility Considerations
16:24:31 <MichaelC> Push API features introduce a number of needs for a "Do Not Disturb" functionality in various web applications, whether accessed via mobile device or desktop browser. This functionality should be addressed by the Web Notifications specificaton. Web Notifications currently does not provide this feature but an issue has been filed requesting the feature:
16:24:31 <MichaelC> [URI of issue]
16:24:31 <MichaelC> Meanwhile, until the use cases described in this issue are appropriately addressed, implementors of this specification should be aware that accessibility problems might be triggered by implementations of this specification and attempt to minimize their impact.
16:25:03 <Gottfried> Michael: Header should go into "Privacy, security and accessibility considerations" (standard section)
16:26:14 <janina> zakim, next item
16:26:14 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8" taken up [from janina]
16:26:34 <Gottfried> action-2124?
16:26:34 <trackbot> action-2124 -- Janina Sajka to Follow up with johannes wilm on input events 1 and 2 wrt our comments on input events non-leveled -- due 2017-05-17 -- CLOSED
16:26:34 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2124
16:26:52 <Gottfried> Gottfried: Need another week
16:27:03 <Gottfried> action-2139?
16:27:03 <trackbot> action-2139 -- Janina Sajka to File issue with input events about at getting message properly -- due 2017-08-16 -- OPEN
16:27:03 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2139
16:27:46 <Gottfried> Michael: This action was to file an issue.
16:28:02 <Gottfried> Janina: I thought the next step was to have a conversation with him. Let's keep this open.
16:28:18 <MichaelC> action-2139: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2017Aug/0019.html
16:28:18 <trackbot> Notes added to action-2139 File issue with input events about at getting message properly.
16:28:36 <Gottfried> action-2135?
16:28:36 <trackbot> action-2135 -- Janina Sajka to Review cloud browser use cases https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/main_page/cloud_browser_tf/usecases -- due 2017-07-21 -- OPEN
16:28:36 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2135
16:28:45 <Gottfried> action-2133?
16:28:45 <trackbot> action-2133 -- Janina Sajka to Manage review of payment handler api https://www.w3.org/tr/payment-handler/ -- due 2017-06-28 -- OPEN
16:28:45 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2133
16:29:08 <Gottfried> action-2131?
16:29:08 <trackbot> action-2131 -- Michael Cooper to Ask webappsec if csp is meant to block bookmarklets, and raise issue of a11y scripts that users explicitly request (not xss) -- due 2017-05-17 -- OPEN
16:29:08 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2131
16:29:28 <janina> zakim, next item
16:29:28 <Zakim> agendum 6. "new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html" taken up [from janina]
16:29:51 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/css-text-3/ CSS Text Module Level 3
16:30:10 <Gottfried> "This CSS3 module defines properties for text manipulation and specifies their processing model. It covers line breaking, justification and alignment, white space handling, and text transformation."
16:30:33 <Gottfried> Janina: Ian, does this need review?
16:30:54 <Gottfried> Michael: May be related to low vision. Could allow to do stupid things.
16:31:13 <Gottfried> Ian: Stupid things you shouldn't do should be covered by parts of WCAG 2.1.
16:31:29 <Gottfried> Michael: Some things didn't make it to WCAG 2.1, for some reasons.
16:31:35 <Gottfried> Ian: This is probably fine.
16:32:02 <Gottfried> ... Most of this can be done already.
16:32:08 <janina> zakim, next item
16:32:08 <Zakim> agendum 7. "Proposal re review attributions -- Michael" taken up [from janina]
16:32:11 <Gottfried> Michael: No need to review.
16:32:34 <Gottfried> Janina: Michael had an idea to credit reviewers of specs.
16:32:46 <Gottfried> ... Would it be good to have reviewers listed?
16:33:17 <Gottfried> Michael: How can we increase the pool of reviewers?
16:33:32 <Gottfried> ... W3C has an acknowledgment section. We could list reviewers here.
16:33:57 <Gottfried> ... For APA, either Janina or I send the comments. Then we are seen as the commenters.
16:34:22 <Gottfried> ... Would it be helpful to provide a clear attribution, and to encourage the receiving wg to list the reviewers in the ack section.
16:34:56 <Gottfried> Ian: Yes, makes sense. Credit and trail of people involved.
16:35:41 <Gottfried> Gottfried: Good to justify my time as professor in standards committees.
16:36:20 <Gottfried> Michael: We should put a footnote in our comments. I will think about this.
16:36:40 <janina> zakim, next item
16:36:40 <Zakim> agendum 8. "Other Business" taken up [from janina]
16:37:18 <Gottfried> Ian: I have a question to Léonie. Janina sent an email about input events, back in June.
16:37:32 <Gottfried> Janina: Question came from Johannes Wilm.
16:37:54 <Gottfried> ... We asked him to join a telecon, as a response to the series of questions.
16:38:33 <Gottfried> Ian: That answers my question.
16:39:14 <MichaelC> topic: Finding APA activity on spec reviews
16:39:15 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Main_Page
16:39:24 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Spec_Review
16:39:30 <Gottfried> Michael: The APA Wiki page has a link to "Specification review".
16:39:33 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review
16:39:46 <Gottfried> ... Has instructions on how to do spec review.
16:40:13 <Gottfried> ... You can search on this page for "input events".
16:40:24 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Input_Events_Level_2
16:40:34 <Gottfried> ... You should quickly find all the background and comments that we produced in the past to a specific spec.
16:41:22 <Gottfried> Janina: I am trying to put relevant links into the APA agenda each time as "APA resources".
16:42:12 <Gottfried> Janina: We will meet next week.
16:43:32 <Gottfried> zakim, bye
16:43:32 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been janina, Gottfried, IanPouncey
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16:43:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/08/23-apa-minutes.html Gottfried
16:45:01 <Gottfried> present+ MichaelC
16:45:17 <Gottfried> rrsagent, draft minutes
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