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15:56:07 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
15:56:07 <trackbot> Date: 16 August 2017
15:57:25 <janina> agenda?
15:57:31 <janina> zakim, clear agenda
15:57:31 <Zakim> agenda cleared
15:57:36 <janina> agenda+ preview agenda with items from two minutes
15:57:36 <janina> agenda+ TPAC 2017 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2017
15:57:36 <janina> agenda+ CSS Task Force -- Ian
15:57:36 <janina> agenda+ Push API Next Steps
15:57:37 <janina> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8
15:57:38 <janina> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
15:57:41 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
15:57:43 <janina> agenda+ next and future meetings
15:57:46 <janina> agenda+ be done
16:03:13 <joanie> present+ Joanmarie_Diggs
16:07:47 <tdrake> tdrake has joined #apa
16:07:53 <tdrake> present+ tdrake
16:08:49 <janina>  zakim, next item
16:08:49 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, janina
16:08:58 <janina> q?
16:09:01 <janina> ack c
16:09:06 <janina> zakim, next item
16:09:06 <Zakim> agendum 1. "preview agenda with items from two minutes" taken up [from janina]
16:09:48 <tdrake> janina: Ian has asked for time to discuss CSS task force updates.
16:11:16 <tdrake> Johannes needs time for discussing input events.
16:11:26 <tdrake> There's also an information gathering task for this.
16:11:55 <janina> zakim, next item
16:11:55 <Zakim> agendum 2. "TPAC 2017 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2017" taken up [from janina]
16:11:56 <tdrake> no news items to be discussed.
16:12:14 <tdrake> nothing new for TPAC. This will become an active topic as meetings are planned.
16:12:20 <janina> zakim, close this item
16:12:20 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
16:12:21 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:12:21 <Zakim> 3. CSS Task Force -- Ian [from janina]
16:12:21 <janina> zakim, next item
16:12:22 <Zakim> agendum 3. "CSS Task Force -- Ian" taken up [from janina]
16:14:09 <janina> zakim, take up item 4
16:14:09 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Push API Next Steps" taken up [from janina]
16:14:13 <tdrake> ian is having connection issues, agenda will be rearranged
16:14:38 <tdrake> There's an item for a new section for the push API specification.
16:14:54 <tdrake> it could be called defer queu section 212
16:15:55 <tdrake> mobile platforms are doing quite a bit along these lines already. It's not a new feature, it's a standards approach regardless of the platform.
16:16:03 <tdrake> do not disturb is the key.
16:16:15 <tdrake> it's on Android and should be on ios.
16:16:42 <tdrake> heuristically provided services that respect a user's desire to not be disturbed
16:17:31 <tdrake> There were C comments on the EO draft. There are others discussing this issue outside the APA.
16:18:11 <tdrake> I'd like to move forward.
16:18:50 <tdrake> leonie: The suggestion from TPG is that it would be good to look more broadly about accessibility across the W3C specifications
16:19:01 <tdrake> It would be good to have education and outreach
16:19:29 <tdrake> we are keen to move the push API spec forward. It might be a challenge to add a new feature at this point.
16:19:48 <tdrake> the most likely way to succeed in moving forward is to add a comment/note
16:20:17 <Gottfried> Gottfried has joined #apa
16:20:33 <tdrake> if that is how APA feels it would be a good way to move forward, this group could suggest potential text and I can work with editors to move forward.
16:20:40 <IanPouncey> IanPouncey has joined #apa
16:20:47 <IanPouncey> present+
16:21:33 <tdrake> janina: i wouldn't be in favor of holding up work, but getting the comments incorporated.
16:21:46 <Gottfried> present+
16:21:51 <tdrake> there are broader use cases where this would be a good way to move forward.
16:22:24 <tdrake> tink: we can make the accessibility use case effectively. There are also non-accessibility use cases.
16:22:44 <tdrake> janina: Yes, when I laid out the use case, it was agreed that it is true for all users.
16:23:28 <tdrake> Sometimes you are moving through experiences and you don't want to be disturbed, such as at a funeral.
16:23:36 <MichaelC> present+
16:23:50 <tink> present+ Léonie (tink)
16:24:31 <janina> zakim, close this item
16:24:31 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
16:24:32 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:24:32 <Zakim> 3. CSS Task Force -- Ian [from janina]
16:24:36 <janina> zakim, take up item 3
16:24:36 <Zakim> agendum 3. "CSS Task Force -- Ian" taken up [from janina]
16:25:21 <tdrake> ian: michael, could you add me as an Admin for the W3C CSS github and tools? I couldn't assign tickets last night.
16:25:39 <tdrake> I have gone through spec reviews and open issues and identified which should be prioritized.
16:25:46 <tdrake> in order of priority
16:26:07 <IanPouncey> https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues/8
16:26:10 <tdrake> CSS Containment Module Level 1
16:27:01 <tdrake> This was assigned to me. I have done analysis and it needs to be completed. I expect next week. It's now a candidate recommendation until November 8.
16:27:18 <IanPouncey> https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues/6
16:27:57 <tdrake> CSS counter styles level 3. We had given feedback in 2013. there was a response from working group in 2014.
16:28:00 <MichaelC> q+ to say Ian now has maintainer access to https://github.com/orgs/w3c/teams/css-a11y/members, and to ask if request from Bogdan to join team should be accepted
16:28:11 <tdrake> michael, could you help track down this comment?
16:28:31 <tdrake> MichaelC: I can help you track this down.
16:29:06 <tdrake> Ian: finding the comment and response will help us move forward.
16:29:28 <IanPouncey> https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues/18
16:29:31 <tdrake> CSS Scroll Snap Module level 1
16:29:59 <tdrake> This went to CR in February this year. It needs to be reviewed as soon as possible. We need volunteers for reviewing this.
16:30:44 <tdrake> janina: the concerns I have is that it could exacerbate someone using magnification, especially at a high level of magnification.
16:30:58 <tdrake> Could the scroll snapping help or hender a magnification user?
16:31:15 <tdrake> ian: this is a question we should ask our reviewer.
16:31:39 <IanPouncey> https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues/11
16:31:50 <tdrake> CSS Grid Layout Module Level 1
16:32:07 <tdrake> went to CR in May, 2017. Volunteers, suggestions welcome
16:32:15 <IanPouncey> https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues/16
16:32:18 <tdrake> Media Queries Level 4
16:32:37 <tdrake> Patrick Lauke has already commented on the issue. He has agreed to be the reviewer for this issue.
16:33:15 <tdrake> we have two of the short listed issues assigned.
16:33:33 <tdrake> Hopefully by next week I will have people assigned for the outstanding issues.
16:33:49 <janina> scribe: janina
16:34:12 <janina> td: Notes James Craig filed an issue on Media Queries we should look at.
16:35:00 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues/2 ?
16:36:20 <MichaelC> ack me
16:36:20 <Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to say Ian now has maintainer access to https://github.com/orgs/w3c/teams/css-a11y/members, and to ask if request from Bogdan to join team should be accepted
16:36:41 <tdrake> MichaelC: Ian, I have added you as a maintaner.
16:36:49 <tdrake> This gives commit access to the repository.
16:37:04 <tdrake> I will also accept Bogdin
16:37:53 <janina> zakim, next item
16:37:53 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8" taken up [from janina]
16:38:28 <tdrake> michaelC: review overview json format
16:38:50 <tdrake> no apparent issues for APA was the conclusion.
16:39:11 <tdrake> janina: it was another way to handle 3 dimensional data.
16:39:35 <tdrake> I can't say if the design is great, but it doesn't seem to have any issues.
16:39:48 <MichaelC> close action-2130
16:39:48 <trackbot> Closed action-2130.
16:39:49 <tdrake> MichaelC: I will record no issues and close the action.
16:40:01 <tdrake> that was the only pending review.
16:40:51 <MichaelC> close action-2124
16:40:51 <trackbot> Closed action-2124.
16:40:52 <tdrake> MichaelC and Janina quickly review tasks assigned to Janina.
16:41:11 <tdrake> comments on payments?
16:41:28 <tdrake> janina: there was discussion, but no progress.
16:42:23 <tdrake> MichaelC: should we close review of mutation on the DOM by Shane.
16:42:40 <tdrake> janina: give me an action to ping Shane and see if this is appropriate.
16:42:42 <MichaelC> action: janina to ping Shane re action-2123
16:42:43 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2140 - Ping shane re action-2123 [on Janina Sajka - due 2017-08-23].
16:43:25 <tdrake> Review TTML profiles by John, this can be closed.
16:43:52 <janina> zakim, next item
16:43:52 <Zakim> agendum 6. "new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html" taken up [from janina]
16:44:23 <MichaelC> close action-2116
16:44:23 <trackbot> Closed action-2116.
16:44:31 <tdrake> michaelC: web authentication and api for accessing key credentials
16:44:35 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/webauthn/ Web Authentication: An API for accessing Public Key Credentials Level 1
16:44:59 <tdrake> there are other specs we've looked at. They changed the title and this came up as a new draft.
16:45:26 <tdrake> janina: we didn't see a problem with the spec, but had concerns about emplementation
16:45:39 <tdrake> michaelC: no need to review was previous statement.
16:46:44 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/credential-management-1/ Credential Management Level 1
16:46:48 <tdrake> Credential management level 1 is not new, but I put it as not-checked because we wanted to come back to it. They are moving on it.
16:47:09 <tdrake> watch for use of images to represent type of credentials.
16:47:23 <tdrake> cognitive task force needs to give input
16:49:06 <tdrake> I'm going to take off ping category and put into active review
16:49:38 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/verifiable-claims-data-model/ Verifiable Claims Data Model and Representations
16:50:35 <tdrake> Should we assign Leonie and Gottfried.
16:50:40 <MichaelC> action: watson to review Verifiable Claims Data Model and Representations https://www.w3.org/TR/verifiable-claims-data-model/
16:50:40 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2141 - Review verifiable claims data model and representations https://www.w3.org/tr/verifiable-claims-data-model/ [on Léonie Watson - due 2017-08-23].
16:50:46 <MichaelC> action: gottfried to review Verifiable Claims Data Model and Representations https://www.w3.org/TR/verifiable-claims-data-model/
16:50:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2142 - Review verifiable claims data model and representations https://www.w3.org/tr/verifiable-claims-data-model/ [on Gottfried Zimmermann - due 2017-08-23].
16:50:56 <tdrake> Leonie and Gottfried agree to review this specification
16:51:28 <janina> zakim, next item
16:51:28 <Zakim> agendum 8. "next and future meetings" taken up [from janina]
16:52:26 <janina> zakim, bye
16:52:26 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been MichaelC, chaals, Léonie, Joanmarie_Diggs, tdrake, IanPouncey, Gottfried, (tink)
16:52:27 <Zakim> Zakim has left #apa
16:52:31 <MichaelC> action-2141: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Verifiable_Claims_Data_Model_and_Representations
16:52:32 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
16:52:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/08/16-apa-minutes.html janina
16:52:33 <trackbot> Notes added to action-2141 Review verifiable claims data model and representations https://www.w3.org/tr/verifiable-claims-data-model/.
16:52:36 <MichaelC> action-2142: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Verifiable_Claims_Data_Model_and_Representations
16:52:36 <trackbot> Notes added to action-2142 Review verifiable claims data model and representations https://www.w3.org/tr/verifiable-claims-data-model/.
16:53:20 <janina> rrsagent, bye
16:53:20 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2017/08/16-apa-actions.rdf :
16:53:20 <RRSAgent> ACTION: janina to ping Shane re action-2123 [1]
16:53:20 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/08/16-apa-irc#T16-42-42
16:53:20 <RRSAgent> ACTION: watson to review Verifiable Claims Data Model and Representations https://www.w3.org/TR/verifiable-claims-data-model/ [2]
16:53:20 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/08/16-apa-irc#T16-50-40
16:53:20 <RRSAgent> ACTION: gottfried to review Verifiable Claims Data Model and Representations https://www.w3.org/TR/verifiable-claims-data-model/ [3]
16:53:20 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/08/16-apa-irc#T16-50-46