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13:31:56 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
13:31:56 <trackbot> Meeting: Silver Task Force Teleconference
13:31:56 <trackbot> Date: 08 August 2017
13:31:56 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
13:32:17 <Lauriat> agenda+ Update from David Swallow
13:32:23 <Lauriat> Zakim, clear agenda
13:32:23 <Zakim> agenda cleared
13:32:26 <Lauriat> agenda+ Update from David Swallow
13:32:32 <Lauriat> agenda+ Copyright discussion
13:32:39 <Lauriat> agenda+ Research project sheet review
13:32:41 <Lauriat> agenda+ Open action items https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/track/actions/open review
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13:39:18 <jeanne> agenda?
13:39:25 <jeanne> regrets+ Jemma
13:40:19 <jeanne> scribe: jeanne
13:41:03 <Lauriat> Zakim, next item
13:41:03 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Update from David Swallow" taken up [from Lauriat]
13:41:42 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: Set up longer diary studies with five web developers (over two weeks).
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13:41:57 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: Whenever they use WCAG, they create a new diary entry.
13:42:14 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: Looking to get some feedback on the questions, sent via email earlier.
13:42:48 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: The survey includes the core set of questions, and then the diary entries will follow as longer entries.
13:43:08 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: Looking to streamline the entries, which may get a bit repetitive.
13:43:44 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: Last, a phone interview at the end, put into a Survey Monkey survey to review and get feedback.
13:44:29 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: Regarding compensation, Sarah and I think $50 would be appropriate.
13:45:04 <Lauriat> Jeanne: How many gift cards do we need?
13:45:30 <Lauriat> Jeanne: Pounds or dollars or?
13:45:56 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: Interestingly, it can get difficult with international participants, depending on the region.
13:46:04 <Lauriat> Jeanne: Where are the participants from?
13:46:18 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: We don't have that, yet. We had discussed using the stakeholders for that.
13:47:23 <Lauriat> Sarah: Quick question about the diary entry survey. Every time I use WCAG I would fill this out, or at the end of the day?
13:47:31 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: Ideally every time.
13:48:08 <Lauriat> Sarah: Would it work to do something like a log for when you use it and then an end-of-day reflection?
13:49:14 <Lauriat> Sarah: I really like the questions you have in here. Maybe having a couple of the questions move to an end-of-the-day reflection?
13:49:25 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: Yeah, that makes sense.
13:52:07 <Lauriat> Sarah: I think given that this is a pilot diary study, keeping this constrained is good in order to focus.
13:52:42 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: Also good to know if they consult a third party, rather than WCAG directly. Let's try this for the pilot.
13:52:51 <Lauriat> Jeanne: Developers only for this?
13:53:25 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: Yes. The questions aren't really developer-specific, but interested mostly in developers for this.
13:54:02 <Lauriat> Jeanne: This seems like it will target accessibility web developers, given the need for them to use WCAG enough for the study.
13:54:30 <Lauriat> Jennison: Looking at targeting accessibility specialists in particular or others?
13:54:55 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: I'd like to get more of a beginner outlook as well, good to get a range.
13:55:02 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: Ideally a spread.
13:55:24 <Lauriat> Jeanne: Ideally two intermediate and two beginner and one somewhere in the middle.
13:55:32 <Lauriat> Jeanne: What about international?
13:55:50 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: Only five participants does limit things a bit, but ideally yes.
13:56:26 <Lauriat> Jeanne: We could probably get someone from Japan and Korea as well.
13:56:45 <Lauriat> Jennison: We'll just need to make sure that we can provide something for each geography that they can use.
13:57:25 <Lauriat> Jeanne: I can reach out to some people to find someone more beginner.
13:58:10 <Lauriat> Jeanne: Jennison, you can probably find someone as well, on the beginner side, in the US.
13:58:53 <Lauriat> Jennison: When do you need folks by?
13:59:14 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: Nothing specific, really. Let's say this month.
13:59:39 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: For a period of two weeks for participation.
14:00:37 <Lauriat> Jennison: Will we have to translate, or make sure that participants know enough English?
14:00:58 <Lauriat> Jeanne: Yeah, let's stick with English. Just reading and writing, really.
14:01:16 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: I had intended the interview to happen over the phone, but it could happen via email, really.
14:02:27 <Lauriat> Jeanne: So an initial survey, then a two-week study, and then a final interview.
14:02:43 <Lauriat> Jeanne: And at least a $50 gift card.
14:03:24 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: Looking to have realistic participation - I don't want to artificially create situations where they need to use WCAG.
14:03:54 <Lauriat> Jeanne: What about situations where people will use different versions of WCAG?
14:04:17 <Lauriat> Jeanne: What are the specific goals and questions of the study?
14:04:55 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: Mainly consulting the resource, WCAG 2.0. [Other resources] could be interesting, I agree. For this pilot, let's stick to the resource itself.
14:05:21 <Lauriat> Jeanne: An official translation should be fine, though.
14:05:25 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: Right.
14:05:46 <Lauriat> Jeanne: What else do you need from us?
14:05:51 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: That covers it, really.
14:06:12 <Lauriat> Jennison: We can give you more feedback via email as well.
14:08:18 <Lauriat> Jeanne: Would you mind reading the questions? Having trouble reading them from here.
14:08:36 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: Quite a few of them, really.
14:09:13 <Lauriat> Jeanne: Just a note, because you sent the links to the mailing list, those links are all now public. Is that okay?
14:09:29 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: Better to send a document with the questions?
14:10:38 <Lauriat> DavidSwallow: I'll chat with Sarah and get this shared.
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14:14:00 <Lauriat> Jeanne: I made a small amount of progress on the budget, though not enough to really have a look at today.
14:14:37 <Lauriat> Zakim, take up item 3
14:14:37 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Research project sheet review" taken up [from Lauriat]
14:14:41 <Lauriat> No other updates.
14:14:45 <Lauriat> Zakim, take up item 4
14:14:45 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Open action items https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/track/actions/open review" taken up [from Lauriat]
14:17:01 <jeanne> action-32 due 8 September
14:17:01 <trackbot> Set action-32 Post requests for participation on lists looking for people with diverse disabilities, particularly movement disabilities. due date to 2017-09-08.
14:17:22 <jeanne> action-35 due 8 September
14:17:22 <trackbot> Set action-35 Add stakeholders for general ux, developers, designers, and reach out to contact at vermont coders to tweet our request. due date to 2017-09-08.
14:17:33 <jeanne> action-40 due 8 September
14:17:33 <trackbot> Set action-40 Reach out to colleagues with experience with switch for android, and also to get people on hardware development side as stakeholders due date to 2017-09-08.
14:17:44 <jeanne> action-42 due 8 September
14:17:44 <trackbot> Set action-42 Reach out to someone from TextHelp to help with the assistive technology interface due date to 2017-09-08.
14:18:58 <jeanne> action-36 due 8 September
14:18:58 <trackbot> Set action-36 Ask news, video, and e-business sources for stakeholders. due date to 2017-09-08.
14:19:17 <jeanne> action-54 due 11 August
14:19:17 <trackbot> Set action-54 With Jennison as lead, reach out to accessibility meetup organizers. due date to 2017-08-11.
14:20:57 <jeanne> Jeanne: Moving the dates for recruiting more participants is being delayed until we have actual action for them to take
14:21:28 <jeanne> close action-101
14:21:28 <trackbot> Closed action-101.
14:21:44 <jeanne> action-101 sent 7 August
14:22:22 <jeanne> action-65 postpone because we don't have the granular detail to organize the projects yet.  Pushing out 1 month.
14:22:34 <jeanne> action-65 due 8 September
14:22:34 <trackbot> Set action-65 Modify the researcher spreadsheet to organize it. due date to 2017-09-08.
14:22:59 <jeanne> action-102 is complete, setting up next step.
14:23:05 <jeanne> close action-102
14:23:05 <trackbot> Closed action-102.
14:24:06 <jeanne> action: Sarah to finalize the WCAG Usability Survey
14:24:06 <trackbot> Created ACTION-109 - Finalize the wcag usability survey [on Sarah Horton - due 2017-08-15].
14:24:55 <jeanne> action-107 due 15 August
14:24:55 <trackbot> Set action-107 Contact mikep about silver workshop around csun 2018 march 19-23 2018 due date to 2017-08-15.
14:25:26 <jeanne> close action-108
14:25:27 <trackbot> Closed action-108.
14:30:56 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
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14:31:53 <jeanne> chair: Shawn, jeanne
14:32:18 <jeanne> present+ Sarah, Shawn, Jennison, Jeanne, DaveSwallow
14:32:29 <jeanne> regrets+ Jan
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15:55:59 <jeanne> action: Jeanne to coordinate outreach to identify participants in Dave Swallow's diary project
15:56:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-110 - Coordinate outreach to identify participants in dave swallow's diary project [on Jeanne F Spellman - due 2017-08-15].
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