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13:32:40 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
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13:32:41 <trackbot> Meeting: Silver Task Force Teleconference
13:32:41 <trackbot> Date: 28 July 2017
13:33:18 <Lauriat> agenda+ Question bank
13:33:23 <Lauriat> agenda+ Draft of WCAG usability survey
13:33:32 <Lauriat> agenda+ Research project sheet review
13:33:33 <Lauriat> agenda+ Open action items https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/track/actions/open review
13:35:31 <Lauriat> Zakim, take up item 3
13:35:31 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Research project sheet review" taken up [from Lauriat]
13:36:42 <Lauriat> No updates since last time.
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13:38:27 <SarahHorton> rrsagent, make minutes
13:38:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/07/28-silver-minutes.html SarahHorton
13:40:48 <SarahHorton> Jan: Suggestion to add info about local meetup groups
13:42:03 <SarahHorton> Jan: Could add meetups to question about accessibility topics.
13:42:11 <SarahHorton> Sarah: Will look into this
13:44:37 <SarahHorton> Sarah: Diary study meeting today
13:45:08 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Working on building up a larger donation plan
13:45:49 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: For diary study, thought we could go ahead with volunteers
13:46:09 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Could go to people on ad hoc basis, ask for support for diary study
13:48:01 <SarahHorton> Sarah: Will move forward with diary study and when ready to launch, check in about budget and stakeholders list
13:48:17 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Check back in next Friday to discuss budget
13:52:40 <SarahHorton> zakim, take up item 1
13:52:40 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Question bank" taken up [from Lauriat]
13:53:08 <Lauriat> Question bank: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x_Qt9WpujgrAlKnF6ApWPamhSukYQXGEel6fkq93kls/edit
13:55:32 <SarahHorton> zakim, take up item 2
13:55:32 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Draft of WCAG usability survey" taken up [from Lauriat]
14:02:29 <SarahHorton> Sarah: Reviewed survey
14:02:56 <SarahHorton> Shawn: Likes the three questions, learnability, memorability, teachability
14:06:01 <SarahHorton> Jan: Likes idea of asking the three attributes with each SC
14:06:21 <SarahHorton> Jan: What about also asking about easy to implement
14:06:31 <SarahHorton> Shawn: That might be outside scope of usability
14:06:59 <SarahHorton> Shawn: What about asking questions about why?
14:07:24 <SarahHorton> Jan: Relying on their definition of what learning means
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14:15:11 <sloandr> present+
14:15:26 <sloandr> hi all, sorry for joining late
14:20:44 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: How about adding another page with the SC and a question about why
14:21:41 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: With perceptions, some people will want to say why
14:23:35 <SarahHorton> Shawn: Implementability gets away from usability of WCAG itself, implementing gets into working with technology
14:24:02 <SarahHorton> Jan: Usability seems like something people can use in their job
14:27:34 <SarahHorton> Shawn: Implementations can get difficult depending on context
14:28:08 <SarahHorton> Jan: Implementation becomes one of biggest barriers when working with developers
14:30:17 <SarahHorton> Jennison: Are there other research studies that are covering implementation
14:33:14 <SarahHorton> Dave: Concerned about whether we need to ask about informative resources (how to use, understanding)
14:33:56 <SarahHorton> Dave: Can we understand which parts of the guidelines are sufficiently learnable without other resources?
14:36:35 <SarahHorton> * https://www.nngroup.com/articles/usability-101-introduction-to-usability/
14:40:24 <SarahHorton> Sarah: Will share more refined version on Aug 1
14:40:46 <SarahHorton> zakim, take up item 1
14:40:46 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Question bank" taken up [from Lauriat]
14:43:19 <SarahHorton> Dave: Good idea to use as a bucket to put questions we could ask by survey
14:44:19 <SarahHorton> Dave: Could start by collecting questions about implementability
14:44:32 <SarahHorton> Dave: Also ask about supporting resources
14:44:50 <SarahHorton> Dave: Could spend time on bank creating questions that are on topics we would like to learn more about
14:45:04 <SarahHorton> Dave: Questions we can use in surveys
14:46:05 <SarahHorton> Dave: Will start on setting up question bank and share at Aug 4 meeting
14:47:09 <SarahHorton> zakim, take up item 4
14:47:09 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Open action items https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/track/actions/open review" taken up [from Lauriat]
14:48:30 <SarahHorton> present+ Sarah, Dave, Jeanne, Shawn, Jan, Jennison
14:49:04 <SarahHorton> regrets+ Jemma
14:49:15 <SarahHorton> Chair: Shawn
14:49:21 <SarahHorton> Scribe: Sarah
14:58:32 <SarahHorton> rrsagent, make minutes
14:58:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/07/28-silver-minutes.html SarahHorton
14:58:38 <SarahHorton> rrsagent, make logs public
15:01:09 <SarahHorton> zakim, clear agenda
15:01:09 <Zakim> agenda cleared
15:01:15 <SarahHorton> rrsagent, bye
15:01:15 <RRSAgent> I see no action items