IRC log of silver on 2017-07-28
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- Zakim, this will be
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- Meeting: Silver Task Force Teleconference
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- Date: 28 July 2017
- 13:33:18 [Lauriat]
- agenda+ Question bank
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- agenda+ Draft of WCAG usability survey
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- agenda+ Research project sheet review
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- agenda+ Open action items https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/track/actions/open review
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- Zakim, take up item 3
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- agendum 3. "Research project sheet review" taken up [from Lauriat]
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- No updates since last time.
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- Jan: Suggestion to add info about local meetup groups
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- Jan: Could add meetups to question about accessibility topics.
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- Sarah: Will look into this
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- Sarah: Diary study meeting today
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- Jeanne: Working on building up a larger donation plan
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- Jeanne: For diary study, thought we could go ahead with volunteers
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- Jeanne: Could go to people on ad hoc basis, ask for support for diary study
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- Sarah: Will move forward with diary study and when ready to launch, check in about budget and stakeholders list
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- Jeanne: Check back in next Friday to discuss budget
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- zakim, take up item 1
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- agendum 1. "Question bank" taken up [from Lauriat]
- 13:53:08 [Lauriat]
- Question bank: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x_Qt9WpujgrAlKnF6ApWPamhSukYQXGEel6fkq93kls/edit
- 13:55:32 [SarahHorton]
- zakim, take up item 2
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- agendum 2. "Draft of WCAG usability survey" taken up [from Lauriat]
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- Sarah: Reviewed survey
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- Shawn: Likes the three questions, learnability, memorability, teachability
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- Jan: Likes idea of asking the three attributes with each SC
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- Jan: What about also asking about easy to implement
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- Shawn: That might be outside scope of usability
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- Shawn: What about asking questions about why?
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- Jan: Relying on their definition of what learning means
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- present+
- 14:15:26 [sloandr]
- hi all, sorry for joining late
- 14:20:44 [SarahHorton]
- Jeanne: How about adding another page with the SC and a question about why
- 14:21:41 [SarahHorton]
- Jeanne: With perceptions, some people will want to say why
- 14:23:35 [SarahHorton]
- Shawn: Implementability gets away from usability of WCAG itself, implementing gets into working with technology
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- Jan: Usability seems like something people can use in their job
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- Shawn: Implementations can get difficult depending on context
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- Jan: Implementation becomes one of biggest barriers when working with developers
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- Jennison: Are there other research studies that are covering implementation
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- Dave: Concerned about whether we need to ask about informative resources (how to use, understanding)
- 14:33:56 [SarahHorton]
- Dave: Can we understand which parts of the guidelines are sufficiently learnable without other resources?
- 14:36:35 [SarahHorton]
- * https://www.nngroup.com/articles/usability-101-introduction-to-usability/
- 14:40:24 [SarahHorton]
- Sarah: Will share more refined version on Aug 1
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- zakim, take up item 1
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- agendum 1. "Question bank" taken up [from Lauriat]
- 14:43:19 [SarahHorton]
- Dave: Good idea to use as a bucket to put questions we could ask by survey
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- Dave: Could start by collecting questions about implementability
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- Dave: Also ask about supporting resources
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- Dave: Could spend time on bank creating questions that are on topics we would like to learn more about
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- Dave: Questions we can use in surveys
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- Dave: Will start on setting up question bank and share at Aug 4 meeting
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- zakim, take up item 4
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- agendum 4. "Open action items https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/track/actions/open review" taken up [from Lauriat]
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- present+ Sarah, Dave, Jeanne, Shawn, Jan, Jennison
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- regrets+ Jemma
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- Chair: Shawn
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- Scribe: Sarah
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- zakim, clear agenda
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- agenda cleared
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see no action items