06:29:51 RRSAgent has joined #wot-td 06:29:51 logging to http://www.w3.org/2017/07/21-wot-td-irc 06:30:23 taki has joined #wot-td 06:30:36 mariapoveda has joined #wot-td 06:31:56 dape has joined #wot-td 06:34:45 DarkoAnicic has joined #wot-td 06:34:54 present+ DarkoAnicic 06:35:00 dsr has joined #wot-td 06:35:28 sebastian has joined #wot-td 06:36:27 present+ 06:37:36 ohura has joined #wot-td 06:38:50 present+ DanielPeintner 06:39:02 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Daniel_Peintner, Darko_Anicic, Dave_Raggett, Maria_Poveda, Taki_Kamiya 06:39:26 q+ 06:40:26 -> https://www.w3.org/2017/07/09-13-wot-minutes.html f2f minutes 06:46:01 kaz: would suggest we have a joint meeting by the Chairs, Editors, Staff to talk about the publication plan as we decided during the f2f 06:47:01 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf#Agenda 06:47:37 i|https|topic: TD deliverable| 06:47:46 q+ 06:47:51 ack k 06:48:14 q 06:48:17 q? 06:48:40 link@ 06:48:52 sk: which version to be used for publication? 06:49:14 q+ 06:50:21 dape: wondering about something 06:50:40 ... some kind of tools 06:50:49 ... to move the content over 06:51:12 ... not the best way to copy the source manually 06:51:26 ... we maintain 2 documents at 2 locations 06:51:37 ... current practices and TD spec 06:51:45 ... the content is essentially the same 06:52:03 sk: not really synchronized at this moment 06:52:15 ack dape 06:52:25 ... but let's postpone this discussion 06:52:54 ... need to spend some time to clean up the deliverable document 06:53:03 q? 06:53:29 dsr: how to document linked-data vocabulary? 06:53:43 sk: schema.org? 06:54:11 Do you mean this one https://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/ ? 06:54:25 q+ 06:54:47 q? 06:56:08 Example of W3C Recommendation for a Linked Data Vocabulary https://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/ 06:56:24 kaz: Dave's point sounds like related to expectation/positioning for TD, so should be discussed during the Chairs/Editors meeting 06:56:46 ... on the other hand, Daniel's point on the relationship between Current@@ 06:57:53 maria: would join the Editor's meeting and provide some idea on how to handle linked-data vocabulary 06:58:04 I'll talk to Dave to see how this can be done 06:58:25 present+ Masato_Ohura 06:58:52 topic: f2f recap 06:59:01 -> slides tbd 06:59:28 sk: long discussion on data type 06:59:53 s|tbd|https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/images/7/7f/Td_next_steps_duesseldorf.pdf| 07:01:06 sk: Dave provided some ideas on additional data types like vector 07:01:25 ... and he's expected to provide concrete use cases for that purpose 07:02:00 ... would like to hold PlugFest at TPAC as well 07:02:12 ... and clarify all the issues by Oct. 20 07:03:02 ... maybe we have to postpone the concrete discussion 07:03:20 ... the data type team includes Victor, Dave and Darko so far 07:03:28 ... if you're interested, please let me know 07:03:59 ... would like the team to organize themselves 07:04:38 ... seems to be a nice idea to use ShEx and/or SHACL for validation 07:05:11 ... would be nice if Victor, Dave or Darko could organize the team 07:05:17 dsr: great to have Maria as well 07:05:24 maria: not sure yet 07:05:37 ... if I can make contribution, am happy to do so 07:06:03 darko: interested in ShEx and SHACL 07:06:22 ... Victor and Maria may be interested in OWL/RDFs 07:07:01 sk: great to have Maria because she has strong background on semantic Web 07:07:05 q? 07:07:11 ack k 07:07:14 ack m 07:07:24 sk: next Protocol Binding 07:08:09 ... idea was having some communication method for TD exchange 07:08:37 ... URI template with timestamp 07:09:11 ... the Protocol Binding Team include Michael Koster, Matthias, Sebastian, Michael McCool, Uday 07:09:26 ... note that we set priority to each topic 07:09:39 ... next Events/Actions 07:10:12 ... very important topic on how to deal with events 07:10:25 ... Team includes Sebastian, Naka-san, McCool, Koster 07:10:38 ... next TD Serialization 07:11:01 ... evaluation with optimized binary data, e.g., CBOR and EXI 07:11:32 ... enhanced new test data set 07:12:09 ... including JSON serialization proposal by Mozilla 07:13:25 ... Team include Daniel, Carsten, Benjamin?, Dave 07:13:26 q+ 07:15:31 [ Benjamin from Mozilla will join the WoT call on July 26th. ] 07:15:35 q- 07:16:32 s/Benjamin/Note: Benjamin/ 07:16:39 sk: next iot.schema.org 07:17:15 ... what kind of serialization format to be used 07:17:28 darko: JSON-LD and Turtle version so far 07:17:37 ... and discovery capability 07:17:49 ... SSN also 07:18:11 ... pretty much ready to specify example capabilities 07:18:15 ... for OCF, oneM2M, etc. 07:18:29 ... would setup experiments at TPAC 07:18:36 sk: great 07:18:48 ... Team includes Koster, Darko, Dan, Victor 07:19:15 ... next Manager Thing 07:19:21 ... Zoltan and Nimura-san 07:19:38 ... would like to introduce new vocabularies for managing things 07:20:17 ... Team includes Nimura-san, Zoltan, Matthias 07:20:28 ... next TD&Links 07:20:32 .. proposal by Victor 07:20:54 ... IANA link relation vocabularies in TD, e.g., latest, history 07:21:19 ... topics addressed in the LD TF 07:21:30 ... Team includes Victor 07:21:54 ... those are the topics discussed during the Dusseldorf f2f 07:22:33 ... think one of the big deadlines is Oct. 20 for TPAC 07:22:58 ... anything else for today? 07:23:01 (none) 07:23:15 sk: we'll have a separate call on deliverable schedule 07:23:28 ... also we'll invite Benjamin from Mozilla to the main call on July 26 07:25:15 [ adjourned ] 07:25:42 rrsagent, make log public 07:25:48 rrsagent, draft minutes 07:25:48 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/07/21-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 07:27:04 Meeting: WoT WG - TD-TF 07:27:14 Chair: Sebastian 07:27:15 Scribe: Kaz 07:27:48 i/09-13-wot-minutes.html/scribenick: kaz/ 07:27:51 rrsagent, draft minutes 07:27:51 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/07/21-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 07:28:28 rrsagent, stop