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12:07:15 <kaz> presnet+ Michael_McCool, Zoltan_Kis, Barry_Leiba, Kaz_Ashimura, Kuniiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Nan_Wang, Tomoaki_Mizushima, ELena_Reshetova, Taki_Kamiya, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Yingying_Chen
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12:07:21 <kaz> zakim, pick a scribe
12:07:22 <Zakim> I don't who is present, kaz
12:07:32 <kaz> present+ Michael_McCool, Zoltan_Kis, Barry_Leiba, Kaz_Ashimura, Kuniiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Nan_Wang, Tomoaki_Mizushima, ELena_Reshetova, Taki_Kamiya, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Yingying_Chen
12:07:35 <kaz> zakim, pick a scribe
12:07:35 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Barry_Leiba
12:07:51 <kaz> zakim, pick a scribe
12:07:51 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Zoltan_Kis
12:08:08 <kaz> s/presnet+ Michael_McCool, Zoltan_Kis, Barry_Leiba, Kaz_Ashimura, Kuniiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Nan_Wang, Tomoaki_Mizushima, ELena_Reshetova, Taki_Kamiya, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Yingying_Chen//
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12:08:23 <zkis> scribenick zkis
12:08:31 <kaz> scribenick: zkis
12:08:38 <kaz> scribe: Zoltan
12:08:42 <kaz> Chair: McCool
12:08:48 <kaz> meeting: WoT IG/WG
12:09:31 <zkis> McCool: please register for the Duesseldorf F2F
12:09:40 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Agenda
12:10:39 <kaz> s/Duesseldorf F2F/T2TRG meeting in Prague as well as the Dusseldorf F2F/
12:10:46 <ohura> present+ Masato_Ohura
12:11:08 <kaz> present+ Kazuaki_Nimura
12:11:10 <zkis> McCool: added a few topics to cover in the tech landscape doc
12:11:30 <zkis> ... PR 326 in wot (IG) repo
12:11:44 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/326 pr 326
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12:12:33 <zkis> McCool: no presentations for this meeting
12:12:35 <kaz> present+ Dave_Raggett
12:13:13 <zkis> McCool: please update information for the next F2F
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12:13:29 <DarkoAnicic> present+ DarkoAnicic
12:13:40 <zkis> ... looking at the attendees, for some people affiliation is missing, please update
12:13:45 <kaz> i|please register|topic: Quick updates|
12:14:01 <kaz> i|no presentations|topic: Presentations|
12:14:16 <kaz> i|please update|topic: F2F Logistics|
12:14:47 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTF2F201707/results registration results so far
12:15:39 <zkis> sebastian: some people come only for the open day
12:16:20 <zkis> dsr: some late registrants still pending
12:17:05 <zkis> McCool: leaders of task forces to update the agendas for breakout sessions
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12:19:25 <zkis> kaz: security topics to be moved to the first days because attendee preferences
12:20:26 <zkis> TF reports
12:20:37 <zkis> TD task force report
12:20:37 <kaz> s/TF/topic: TF/
12:21:02 <zkis> sebastian: integrating all changes till Friday
12:21:12 <zkis> ... to be used on the plugfest
12:21:27 <zkis> ... slides presented about the changes
12:22:39 <zkis> ... removing all the plural keywords
12:22:48 <kaz> present+ Keiichi_Tokuyama
12:23:26 <zkis> sebastian: removed the valueType keyword
12:23:40 <zkis> .... singular keywords may have array values
12:23:55 <zkis> ... implementation effort should be small
12:24:47 <zkis> ... about the usage of the semantics Darko and other will give later updates
12:24:57 <zkis> s/other/others
12:25:14 <zkis> ... description for OCF protocol binding
12:25:42 <zkis> ... node-wot to be updated with these definitions
12:26:16 <zkis> McCool: when the TD's will be updated for node-wot
12:26:21 <zkis> sebastian: next week
12:26:38 <zkis> mkoster: to submit an update to Current Practices
12:27:07 <zkis> ... further discussions pending about the implementation
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12:27:53 <kaz> present+ Katsuyoshi_Naka
12:28:32 <zkis> sebastian: changes in Scripting API need to be reflected in the Current Practices doc as well
12:28:51 <zkis> zkis: it is duplication, need to use link from the Current Practices
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12:29:52 <zkis> zkis: on the Scripting Call, we reviewed Nimura san's updated slides about Script Manager Thing interface
12:29:55 <kaz> -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2017Jun/0021.html Johannes's summary from the Scripting call on Jun. 19
12:30:32 <zkis> topic: security
12:30:45 <zkis> McCool: the security PR has been accepted
12:31:38 <kaz> topic: Marketing/Communications
12:33:05 <zkis> McCool: kaz to check what infra there is for web server
12:33:31 <zkis> kaz: could also use W3C servers
12:35:46 <kaz> s|could also|we can scripts on GitHub if the scripts are run on the client side as usual. on the other hand, if we need to use server-side script like Node.js, we could|
12:36:41 <zkis> McCool: filling up F2F agenda
12:37:05 <yingying> rrsagent, make minutes
12:37:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/06/21-wot-minutes.html yingying
12:40:09 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_9-13_July_2017,_D%C3%BCsseldorf,_Germany#Plenary_and_Breakouts f2f topics
12:40:23 <zkis> topic: protocol binding implementation for the F2F
12:41:08 <zkis> McCool: is node-wot an actual deliverable of the group
12:41:25 <kaz> i|filling up|topic: F2F agenda|
12:41:33 <kaz> q?
12:41:38 <zkis> ... we should turn node-wot into a deliverable, since then contributing would be easier
12:41:41 <kaz> q+
12:41:48 <zkis> ack kaz
12:42:32 <zkis> kaz: comment about open source strategy
12:43:00 <zkis> ... there is expectation about implementation in the IG, and request from member for offshore impl
12:43:11 <zkis> ... need to talk to W3C management about that
12:43:31 <kaz> s/offshore/W3C official/
12:43:42 <kaz> s/need to/would like to/
12:44:50 <zkis> zkis: dual MIT + W3C license would make sense
12:45:53 <kaz> topic: TD namespace
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12:47:35 <zkis> McCool: any objections against doing experimental changes
12:47:41 <zkis> no objections
12:48:55 <zkis> DarkoAnicic: topic to be added for semantic annotations, then TD recipees, then semantic processing for WoT
12:49:17 <zkis> ... these are IG topics
12:49:28 <zkis> ... on the F2F
12:49:51 <kaz> i|topic to be added|RESOLUTION: we will use https://www.w3.org/ns/td as the experimental name space for the WoT Thing Description until the final namespace (which could handle versioning) is fixed||
12:50:07 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:50:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/06/21-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:50:13 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:50:14 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:50:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/06/21-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:50:46 <kaz> s/fixed|/fixed/
12:50:48 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:50:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/06/21-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:52:12 <kaz> s/TD task force report/topic: Thing Description/
12:53:10 <zkis> attaching names to the F2F topics
12:53:18 <kaz> i|on the Scripting Call|topic: Scripting|
12:54:08 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_9-13_July_2017,_D%C3%BCsseldorf,_Germany#Plenary_and_Breakouts f2f topics
12:54:44 <zkis> McCool: please edit the F2F agenda
12:55:20 <zkis> ... please add next agenda points to the stash
12:55:24 <zkis> ... meeting adjurned
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