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13:54:48 <kcoyle> Chair: Caroline burle
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14:02:29 <Caroline_> who is rhiaro?
14:02:39 <roba> roba - will volunteer to scribe
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14:03:06 <Caroline_> Scribe: roba
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14:03:26 <Caroline_> who are you rhiaro?
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14:04:00 <Caroline_> are you a member of dxwg rhiaro?
14:04:13 <rhiaro> Caroline_: I'm Amy Guy, part time w3c staff, passing interest in what you're doing but not enough time to particpate properly I'm afraid. Yes, joined the WG
14:05:16 <Caroline_> great! thank you, Amy
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14:05:37 <Caroline_> could you please join the Webex https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m75e3372d2eb3418101f3a882a6432687
14:06:15 <Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2017/06/12-dxwg-minutes
14:06:16 <kcoyle> scribenick: roba
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14:06:42 <roba> +1
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14:06:58 <erics> +0 wasn't here
14:07:04 <newton> +1
14:07:04 <Caroline_> +1
14:07:05 <roba> RESOLUTION: accepted minutes
14:07:32 <Caroline_> Chair: Caroline_
14:07:46 <kcoyle> q+
14:07:58 <Caroline_> ack kcoyle
14:09:03 <roba> kcoyle; Three sub-groups - Use Cases, DCAT, application profile
14:09:30 <roba> Ixchecl_F: updated Use Case template
14:09:54 <roba> ... question - separating out identification of stakeholders
14:10:12 <roba> ... proposes to carry out - no objections heard
14:10:25 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> q+
14:10:35 <Caroline_> ack Jaroslav_Pullmann
14:10:56 <roba> q+
14:11:01 <Caroline_> ack roba
14:11:29 <kcoyle> q+
14:11:59 <Caroline_> roba: some of the use cases we haven't had the chance to discuss yet
14:12:10 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z8UVjMEPoqp69ZHXk6asY6tCHHECglk4-3Lznd5dxS0/edit#heading=h.cmfhj7ago0ev
14:12:20 <roba> roba: Generalised versions of Use Cases ID4 and ID6
14:12:27 <Caroline_> ack kcoyle
14:13:14 <roba> kcoyle: can we make a link from wiki - needs to be publicly visible
14:13:20 <roba> q+
14:13:44 <kcoyle> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space#Data_Quality_Vocabulary_.28DQV.29_Wish_List_left_by_the_DWBP_WG
14:14:22 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> q+
14:14:29 <roba> ,,, some Use Cases have multiple Use Cases implied - can these be teased out?
14:14:46 <Caroline_> ack roba
14:14:47 <roba> s/,,,/.../
14:15:41 <kcoyle> roba: link could be to use case document or add new use cases, or edit use cases as provided
14:15:56 <kcoyle> q+
14:16:16 <kcoyle> roba: or new document for agreed use cases
14:16:28 <Caroline_> ack Jaroslav_Pullmann
14:16:56 <nandana> present+ nandana
14:17:16 <roba> Jaroslav_Pullmann: not planning to rewrite raw inputs
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14:17:24 <Caroline_> q?
14:17:29 <Caroline_> ack kcoyle
14:17:29 <shepazu> present+ shepazu
14:17:56 <roba> kcoyle: consolidated document needs to be on github
14:18:10 <roba> ... single place to do that
14:18:59 <roba> proposed consolidated  use cases for voting on?
14:19:26 <Caroline_> q+
14:19:28 <roba> kcoyle: F2F focus on consolidating Use Cases
14:19:40 <Caroline_> ack Caroline_
14:19:40 <roba> ... high priority
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14:20:05 <roba> Caroline_: migrate to github with tracking ?
14:20:31 <Caroline_> q?
14:20:35 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> q+
14:20:42 <present__Ixchel_F_> q+
14:20:45 <roba> +1 to consolidate - but how to promote consolidated versions over "raw inputs?"
14:20:50 <Caroline_> ack Jaroslav_Pullmann
14:21:43 <Caroline_> q?
14:22:00 <roba> Happy to move generalised and voted-on cases to a new wiki page
14:22:09 <Caroline_> ack kcoyle
14:22:59 <Caroline_> ack present__Ixchel_F_
14:23:03 <roba> q+
14:23:08 <Caroline_> ack roba
14:23:58 <Caroline_> roba: propose to create another wiki page with the use cases
14:24:15 <Caroline_> ... the ones that are being discussed and voted by the group
14:24:21 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> q+
14:24:26 <Caroline_> ack Jaroslav_Pullmann
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14:24:48 <roba> Jaroslav_Pullmann: use status tags?
14:25:13 <kcoyle> q+
14:25:15 <Caroline_> roba: I prefer to consolidate the agreed versions in one place
14:25:56 <Caroline_> ack kcoyle
14:28:46 <erics> Could it be SumitPurohit?
14:28:56 <erics> Hi Sumit :-)
14:29:27 <Caroline_> q?
14:29:41 <SumitPurohit> Hi Everyone :-)
14:30:04 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> q+
14:30:10 <Caroline_> ack Jaroslav_Pullmann
14:30:40 <Caroline_> q?
14:30:59 <Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space#Modeling_agent_roles
14:32:03 <Caroline_> q?
14:33:16 <kcoyle> We don't at this time have a place for comments on use cases, although that would be a good idea
14:33:23 <roba> q+
14:33:28 <Caroline_> ack roba
14:34:14 <kcoyle> roba: need to cover common cases; using blank nodes are hard to query against
14:34:40 <kcoyle> ... but need to weigh flexibility
14:34:41 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> q+
14:35:07 <kcoyle> ... this is something we can use in other use cases where there is a general need and some people need something special
14:35:19 <Caroline_> ack Jaroslav_Pullmann
14:35:21 <kcoyle> +1
14:36:21 <roba> Jaroslav_Pullmann: supports minimal set of common properties - but problem is the many forms this takes - is it a case for application profiles
14:36:43 <Caroline_> q?
14:36:48 <kcoyle> q+
14:36:51 <Caroline_> ack kcoyle
14:37:39 <roba> kcoyle: need a straw man proposal for the simple common agent roles.
14:37:48 <roba> q=
14:37:50 <roba> q+
14:37:55 <Caroline_> ack roba
14:38:40 <Caroline_> q?
14:38:55 <roba> roba: defining roles a solution issue no t a UC responsibility
14:39:27 <Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space#Modeling_agent_roles
14:40:07 <roba> PROPOSAL: Accept UC ID13 with edits to address the commonality of the pattern of common properties and detailed descriptions in profiles, and the need to agree a list of roles in the specificaton process
14:42:17 <kcoyle> PROPOSAL: Accept UC ID13 with requirement to create an agreed list of roles for DCAT with the remainder for profiles
14:45:31 <roba> roba: lost issue of using a common mechanism for simple/extended definitions
14:45:44 <roba> ... add as requirement?
14:46:02 <roba> kcoyle: perhaps a new Use Case as a placeholder
14:47:27 <Caroline_> q?
14:47:31 <kcoyle> +1
14:47:35 <roba> +1
14:47:36 <antoine> +1
14:47:36 <Caroline_> +1
14:47:37 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1
14:47:38 <newton> +1
14:47:38 <nandana> +1
14:47:39 <mathieu> +1
14:47:40 <SumitPurohit> +1
14:47:44 <DavidBrowning> +1
14:47:46 <erics> +1
14:47:49 <present__Ixchel_F_> +1
14:47:50 <PWinstanley> +1
14:48:13 <roba> RESOLVED:
14:48:30 <roba> RESOLVED: Accept UC ID13 with requirement to create an agreed list of roles for DCAT with the remainder for profiles
14:50:06 <antoine> q+
14:50:09 <roba> roba: how do we review edits? I will copy to consolidated UC doc -
14:50:11 <Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space#Modeling_funding_sources
14:50:19 <Caroline_> ack antoine
14:50:42 <roba> Caroline_: we will then vote at next meeting if necessary
14:51:12 <roba> antoine: please send a email to the group when new edited version published.
14:52:01 <Caroline_> q?
14:52:03 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> q+
14:52:07 <Caroline_> ack Jaroslav_Pullmann
14:52:11 <roba> is this more a job for a specialised vocabulary?
14:52:17 <PWinstanley> q+
14:52:44 <roba> Jaroslav_Pullmann: sub-use case og agent role
14:52:50 <roba> s/og/of/
14:52:51 <Caroline_> ack PWinstanley
14:52:54 <kcoyle> good catch!
14:53:18 <roba> PWinstanley: agree - need opportunity for hierarchy of agents
14:53:45 <antoine> q+
14:53:51 <roba> ...needs a controlled list - authority list
14:53:57 <Caroline_> ack antoine
14:54:40 <PWinstanley> +1 to Antoine's comment
14:54:47 <Caroline_> q?
14:54:50 <roba>  antoine: not a hierarchy of types of agents, but one of roles
14:54:51 <kcoyle> q+
14:54:56 <Caroline_> ack kcoyle
14:55:34 <roba> kcoyle: great deal of information about a funding source
14:55:51 <roba> ...therefore about the role, not the funding information
14:55:55 <roba> q+
14:56:03 <Caroline_> ack roba
14:56:22 <kcoyle> roba: detail of funding role is not limited to DCAT - could be specialized vocabulary
14:56:26 <Caroline_> roba: funding role is not limited to DCAT
14:56:38 <kcoyle> ... trick here is to have extension point in profiles
14:56:44 <Caroline_> q?
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14:57:33 <Caroline_> Me ID31
14:57:39 <Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space#Modeling_funding_sources
14:58:10 <Caroline_> the first was ID13 https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space#Modeling_agent_roles
14:58:12 <roba> PROPOSAL: edit ID13 update to include case of funding source identification as an example
14:58:26 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> q+
14:58:33 <Caroline_> ack Jaroslav_Pullmann
14:59:08 <kcoyle> +1
14:59:13 <Caroline_> +1
14:59:14 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1
14:59:14 <newton> +1
14:59:17 <erics> +1
14:59:17 <DavidBrowning> +1
14:59:17 <nandana> +1
14:59:18 <PWinstanley> +1
14:59:18 <antoine> +1
14:59:22 <SumitPurohit> +1
14:59:22 <roba> Jaroslav_Pullmann: noes this is provenance
14:59:24 <roba> +1
14:59:24 <present__Ixchel_F_> +1
14:59:41 <roba> RESOLVED: edit ID13 update to include case of funding source identification as an example
15:00:17 <kcoyle> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Oxford_Attendance_and_logistics
15:00:32 <roba> Caroline_: reminder to put F2F attendance on wiki
15:00:38 <roba> bye
15:00:40 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> present-
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15:00:42 <Caroline_> bye! :)
15:00:44 <DavidBrowning> bye
15:00:48 <SumitPurohit> Bye..
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