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<aharth> is the webex online already?
<ahaller2> https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m307dfc8dd6ecd6dd874d9873194858b7
<ahaller2> use that one
<aharth> ok
<aharth> meeting has not started yet
<aharth> access code 646 395 055
<mlefranc> same problem ? https://rendez-vous.renater.fr/sdwssn
<ahaller2> yeah, same problem as last week
<mlefranc> let's try rendez-vous today ?
<mlefranc> https://rendez-vous.renater.fr/sdwssn
<KJanowic> Is the WebeX not set up correctly or is it just me?
<ahaller2> no, as usual, not working
<ahaller2> https://rendez-vous.renater.fr/sdwssn
<mlefranc> Jano, try this: https://rendez-vous.renater.fr/sdwssn
<KJanowic> The interface is in French :-)
<mlefranc> French people love French
<KJanowic> But I guess I can figure it out by the symbols
<aharth> hammer & sichel
<aharth> then choose anglais
<KJanowic> https://appear.in/ssn
<KJanowic> Ready to go?I have to leave at 2pm (i.e., in 45min)
<ahaller2> scribe: DanhLePhuoc
<ahaller2> scribenick: DanhLePhuoc
<mlefranc> next topic
<ahaller2> next topic
<ahaller2> https://www.w3.org/2017/06/06-sdwssn-minutes
<mlefranc> +1
<KJanowic> +1
<ahaller2> +1
<ahaller2> https://github.com/w3c/sdw/pull/916
PR #916 is on relaxing axioms, there were some disscusions among editors
<mlefranc> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Generic_vs_Specific_Modeling
Armin rejected the PR
<KJanowic> and rightfully so
mlefranc: there might be a problem with strict axioms related to ssn:isPropertyOf a owl:FunctionalProperty and ssn:hasProperty a owl:InverseFunctionalProperty... as mentioned in the PR's discusions
KJanowic: I stand by the
arguments that Simon and I made in the PR's discussion
... I recommend not to touch current stage as It still holds in
most of the case
mlefranc: we need to relax the axiom ssn:isPropertyOf a owl:FunctionalProperty
KJanowic: the relaxed case can be still done with SOSA
mlefranc: the ssn:isPropertyOf a owl:FunctionalProperty will lead to reasoning effect : two features of interest will be same if they are linked to the same property
<ahaller2> ACTION: mlefranc to remove ssn:isPropertyOf a owl:FunctionalProperty [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/13-sdwssn-minutes.html#action01]
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<mlefranc> ACTION on mlefranc to remove ssn:isPropertyOf a owl:FunctionalProperty
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<mlefranc> ACTION mlefranc to remove ssn:isPropertyOf a owl:FunctionalProperty
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KJanowic: I can have it ready when mlefranc issues the PR
<ahaller2> https://github.com/w3c/sdw/pull/912
<KJanowic> https://github.com/w3c/sdw/pull/923
KJanowic: the change is in PR # 923
<KJanowic> "Requested bug fixes to correct the SSN/SOSA alignment to DUL"
ahaller2: we can close AC on PR
#912
... Raul updated some new figures
KJanowic: but I don't see the changes in the documents
<mlefranc> see email Draft for an answer to Tobias's comment at public-sdw-comments
<aharth> the light has a uri: <http://localhost/light>
<aharth> GET on <http://localhost/light> returns "true" (in RDF)
<KJanowic> This seems confusing results, FOI, and observedProperties
<aharth> PUT "false" (in RDF) to <http://localhost/light> would switch the light off
<KJanowic> We have this
<KJanowic> Very important remark by Danh, observations are about the past
<KJanowic> exactly!
<aharth> ahaller2: example written out on github
<aharth> +1
<mlefranc> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/IoT-Device-Example
<KJanowic> +1
<mlefranc> please edit this wikipage
<KJanowic> [I have to drop out now]
<KJanowic> Thanks for the Example Tobias/Andreas!
aharth: we will move the discussion in the wiki page, and refer it in the mailling list
<KJanowic> ok
<KJanowic> fine with me but I will not be there
<ahaller2> ACTION: ahaller to send around meeting time proposals for next week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/13-sdwssn-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Error finding 'ahaller'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/users>.
<ahaller2> ACTION: armin to send around meeting time proposals for next week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/13-sdwssn-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-378 - Send around meeting time proposals for next week [on Armin Haller - due 2017-06-20].
<ahaller2> https://github.com/w3c/sdw/pull/921
the SSN-Usage is the living document for updating in next few weeks
<mlefranc> working on an implementation for https://data.grandlyon.com/
ontology publisher and ontology instantiations can be counted as producers
<ahaller2> thanks, bye
<mlefranc> thanks !
bye
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